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  • Lone Bolt
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    • Feb 2019
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    Originally posted by AFboltfan View Post

    This is kinda my thing... All these amazing skill position players that are going to "likely" have amazing careers and we want an OT which will play RT with the #5 pick??? That's some AJ level incompetence...
    Incompetence is spending 5 on a pick that will have to be shoehorned into a WR room with Slayer, Palmer, and Q...get rid of one of those 2 vets who are both really good, or give up on Q and trade him for whatever scraps you can get...then Im interested. Otherwise you arent addressing a need, which you need to do when you have a lot of them.

    Bottom line...maybe OT isnt their choice either...until I see what they do with player retention, cuts, adds...hard to say what they do....but why blow a 5 on a guy who will be splitting snaps with 3 other players?
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    Tyler Booker G, Josaiah Stewart Edge, Cam Skattebo RB, Mitchell Evans TE, Jamaree Caldwell NT, Isaac TeSlaa WR, Ahmed Hassanein DE, Craig Woodson S, Eli Cox C, Kalel Mullings RB

    Sleeper day 3 pick: Tahj Brooks RB Texas Tech

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    • Velo
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      Originally posted by Lone Bolt View Post

      Incompetence is spending 5 on a pick that will have to be shoehorned into a WR room with Slayer, Palmer, and Q...get rid of one of those 2 vets who are both really good, or give up on Q and trade him for whatever scraps you can get...then Im interested. Otherwise you arent addressing a need, which you need to do when you have a lot of them.

      Bottom line...maybe OT isnt their choice either...until I see what they do with player retention, cuts, adds...hard to say what they do....but why blow a 5 on a guy who will be splitting snaps with 3 other players?
      If a player like Marvin Harrison Jr. falls to you at #5, you take him. It's a no-brainer. You don't have to shoe-horn him in, he's your top WR from day one. He's not going to be splitting snaps with three other guys. You fill out the rest of your WR depth chart based on Marvin Harrision Jr. being your #1.

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      • Icebolt
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        • Mar 2023
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        Originally posted by SAY OW 55 View Post
        Im just not a trade back kind of guy. I am in drafts with Tim Couch and Blaine Gabbert.

        But shit even in that draft you had Patrick Peterson and Julio Jones.

        that’s the problem I got with some of yall in here. Like we talk about these cornerbacks. Is there a Patrick Peterson in here elite corner?????

        Yall have to put that in perspective give me elite. I want elite. Y’all know what elite looks like. Elite is Junior Seu.

        Elite is Ladanian Tomlinson.

        is Dallas Turner Von Miller???? Nah he alright maybe he’s Sean Marimiman.

        but like why are we trading back? Do you trade back with Ladanian Tomlinson? Would you trade back with Ladanian Tomlinson on the board? We traded Michael Vick and got Tomlinson haul. How is that happening in this draft????

        Brock Bowers is elite. He will be elite at his posiition. When Travis Kelce retires he will be the best tight end in football. He’s the next one. He’s a hall of famer. He’s a gold jacket. All pro. He’s not OJ Howard. He’s better than Dalton Kincaid.

        You want elite at position.

        Malike Nabers and Romeo Oudunzie will be elite at thier posistions. They will be the new WRs Oudunzie did all his drills and crushed them. No corner can stay with Nabers. This is the draft where you’ll have an AJ Green and a Julio Jones in it.

        and we haven’t even mentioned Marvin Harrison Jr. so when talking about elite and the pick of 5 that’s blue chippers and you have blue chippers in this draft.

        I know we have needs but one of these players can make our team perennial contenders.
        This is why you are not a GM.
        You don't trade back or up just to trade. Don't put yourself into a hole and stay there. You have to be flexible, especially if you have a certain target in mind. IF your target can be acquired at #8 just as easily at # 5, and your team has a lot of holes, then you trade down. AND still get your guy.
        Chargers help to their guns on the ELI and Rivers trade down and were able to get their guy and picks.

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        • Topcat
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          Originally posted by Velo View Post

          If a player like Marvin Harrison Jr. falls to you at #5, you take him. It's a no-brainer. You don't have to shoe-horn him in, he's your top WR from day one. He's not going to be splitting snaps with three other guys. You fill out the rest of your WR depth chart based on Marvin Harrision Jr. being your #1.
          On the other hand, if some team makes a crazy offer for MHJ, like this year's 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounders, PLUS next year's 1st rounder, to trade down and we still stay in the top 12 in this year's first round, you gotta at least consider that offer...

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          • Icebolt
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            A lot of talk about the Raiders moving up to top 3 to get a QB!!
            1-Is this for real or just media talk?
            2-Pierce way want to would up but how many times has TT moved up that much in the past? It would cost a lot and Raiders also have a lot of holes.
            3- Everyone would love one of these top 3 QB's but not all of them can get them. Top 3 teams really need a QB so it would have to be a ransom haul to move down from a real team need with 3 real good prospects. Right now, I can't see it.

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            • Xenos
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              • Feb 2019
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              Long but good tweet breakdown of why OT probably isn’t the pick at #5.

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              • Duck of Death
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                1. What do y’all think is a realistic number of starters (or at least decent contributors) that can be expected from this upcoming draft class?

                2. Just for examples sake - if you were betting an uncomfortable amount of money, which prospects from this class would you bet on to become immediate difference makers?

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                • Velo
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                  Originally posted by Topcat View Post

                  On the other hand, if some team makes a crazy offer for MHJ, like this year's 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounders, PLUS next year's 1st rounder, to trade down and we still stay in the top 12 in this year's first round, you gotta at least consider that offer...
                  Definitely. If a team is willing to offer some enticing draft compensation for the Chargers' #5 pick, by all means yes you trade down. This draft class is deep at WR, not necessarily MHJ talent, but worth the trade down for sure. If the Chargers traded down just a few spots to get an extra 2nd and/or 3rd in this draft, and were still able to draft Nabers or Odunze or Bowers, I'd do that for sure. But if #5 rolls around and the Chargers haven't traded down and nobody is making enticing offers to move up, and MHJ is still on the board, it's a no-brainer, they're gonna draft MfreakinHJ.

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                  • Velo
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                    Originally posted by Duck of Death View Post
                    1. What do y’all think is a realistic number of starters (or at least decent contributors) that can be expected from this upcoming draft class?

                    2. Just for examples sake - if you were betting an uncomfortable amount of money, which prospects from this class would you bet on to become immediate difference makers?
                    Three - in rounds 1,2,3.

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                    • Topcat
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                      Originally posted by Duck of Death View Post
                      1. What do y’all think is a realistic number of starters (or at least decent contributors) that can be expected from this upcoming draft class?

                      2. Just for examples sake - if you were betting an uncomfortable amount of money, which prospects from this class would you bet on to become immediate difference makers?
                      Four or five...in rounds 1, 2, 2, 3 and maybe another 3...

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                      • Formula 21
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                        Does Harbaugh need that big fat ass NT to make his D work? Just curious what fans think. Are we targeting Sweat?
                        Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
                        Let’s win one for Mack.

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                        • charger1_sj
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                          Originally posted by Icebolt View Post
                          A lot of talk about the Raiders moving up to top 3 to get a QB!!
                          1-Is this for real or just media talk?
                          2-Pierce way want to would up but how many times has TT moved up that much in the past? It would cost a lot and Raiders also have a lot of holes.
                          3- Everyone would love one of these top 3 QB's but not all of them can get them. Top 3 teams really need a QB so it would have to be a ransom haul to move down from a real team need with 3 real good prospects. Right now, I can't see it.
                          This is going to depend on FA. Chicago will stay put. Washington likely stays put. But NE, who knows? For arguments sake let's say NE lands
                          one of Wilson, Fields or Cousins in FA. Now the possibility of a trade down exists. While TT has never made that big a move, he is known for
                          trading up. Can't remember if he ever traded down. Not his motto for sure.

                          Another possibility exists since after the big three there is still McCarthy, Nix and Penix. Probably would not have to move up as much to land
                          one of those guys. Then again maybe it's the Raiders that land one of the FA QBs.

                          To early to say but the speculation is surely there. There are about 10 teams that need a franchise QB. Going to be a very interesting draft.

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