2024 Chargers Draft Superthread - Prospect Discussion - Draft Has Started

[Topcat]

Why not draft a natural ROT instead of taking a LOT and hoping he can play ROT especially with the #5 pick?

Yep...the Bolts have a poor record of forcing players to play out of their natural position...Watt...Feeney...Lamp...Salyer...how'd that work out?

[DerwinBosa]

And what makes one think Alt will not be the next Robert Gallery?

This goes to show that there Is a difference between a rookie with great prospects and an actual bonafide NFL star.
Trading back for an extra 2nd/3rd round pick is not guaranteed to fill any additional holes.

it might have the opposite effect of creating more holes, because you are less guaranteed of hitting with any draft pick.

Nothing is guaranteed in the draft. The safest pick would be to take Marvin Harrison, Jr. if he were to fall to us. If he's not there, we may as well trade back if we can.

Alt, Nabers, Bowers, and Odunze could all end up being busts in the NFL, for all we know right now. As far as I'm concerned, there doesn't seem to be a significant drop-off in talent from the prospects expected to go in the fifth, sixth, and seventh pick range as opposed to those predicted to be selected eighth through 14th. I think a lot of people are overhyping Nabers, Odunze, and Bowers and not giving enough credit to players at other positions simply because they want a weapon for Herbert.

As I said before, we just hired an excellent head coach who has won big with his teams dominating the line of scrimmage. Getting a very good player at right tackle or pass-rusher would be a huge step in building the type of team Harbaugh and Hortiz want.

[DerwinBosa]

I don’t think so. There were clear indications that Mahomes was a hot Quarterback. And the most buzz Quarterback with potential. I saw him at Texas Tech. That’s why Arizona liked him and wanted him. It’s not his fault the 49ers fucked up and didn’t look at him or didn’t work him out.

The Cardinals had Carson Palmer and were willing to draft him and sit him. And they gambled.

As for the Giants. It wasn’t bad. Saquon won them a playoff game and took them to the playoffs. He’s been great and everything he’s been advertised to be an every down back. He’s had great seasons and games. They all get hurt. McCafrey got hurt. What has Josh Allen won???

Mahomes fell to the 10th overall pick. He was not considered the Andrew Luck of his draft.

I doubt anyone in the NFL would start a team with Saquon Barkley over Buffalo's Josh Allen right now. You're giving Saquon credit for winning a Wild Card playoff game over Minnesota, in which Daniel Jones rushed for more yards than Barkley in that victory, and then you say, "What has Josh Allen won???" Allen has taken the Bills to the playoffs five straight seasons and played in an AFC Championship Game. Saquon has been in the postseason once, which ended in a blowout loss to the Eagles. There is no way the Giants made the right decision to select Barkley second overall over Josh Allen in the 2018 NFL Draft.

[DerwinBosa]

Why not draft a natural ROT instead of taking a LOT and hoping he can play ROT especially with the #5 pick?

Should the Lions have drafted a natural right tackle instead of Penei Sewell in 2021?

[Formula 21]

Mahomes fell to the 10th overall pick. He was not considered the Andrew Luck of his draft.

I doubt anyone in the NFL would start a team with Saquon Barkley over Buffalo's Josh Allen right now. You're giving Saquon credit for winning a Wild Card playoff game over Minnesota, in which Daniel Jones rushed for more yards than Barkley in that victory, and then you say, "What has Josh Allen won???" Allen has taken the Bills to the playoffs five straight seasons and played in an AFC Championship Game. Saquon has been in the postseason once, which ended in a blowout loss to the Eagles. There is no way the Giants made the right decision to select Barkley second overall over Josh Allen in the 2018 NFL Draft.

Concur. You don’t draft a RB in the top 10 anymore. Great player. Drafted way too high.

[Boltjolt]

Should the Lions have drafted a natural right tackle instead of Penei Sewell in 2021?

It's not unusual for OL to play different positions. Used to be normal for a LT rookie to start at OG then move to LT the next season if a team already had a LT but was nearing the end.

I just think Feeney and Lamp and Watt just sucked.
Zion was good at RG and just think he hit the rookie wall later but he wasn't that good this season at LG where he should of been.

Salyer wasn't good at OG.
Some guys it don't matter and some it does.
Alt I read was asked by the Chargers about RT and he said he could do it but maybe he was lying too to get drafted 5th.

[DerwinBosa]

It's not unusual for OL to play different positions. Used to be normal for a LT rookie to start at OG then move to LT the next season if a team already had a LT but was nearing the end.

I just think Feeney and Lamp and Watt just sucked.
Zion was good at RG and just think he hit the rookie wall later but he wasn't that good this season at LG where he should of been.

Salyer wasn't good at OG.
Some guys it don't matter and some it does.
Alt I read was asked by the Chargers about RT and he said he could do it but maybe he was lying too to get drafted 5th.

I think Zion and Salyer will improve under Harbaugh. And who knows what we have with McFadden? He could end being a good player. I can't really fault Zion and Salyer for not performing well under Staley last season. Rashawn Slater didn't look as good last season as he did as a rookie, either. Last year was a total disaster, thanks to perhaps the worst coaching job this team has ever seen, so there are a lot of young players I look forward to seeing play with Harbaugh running the show.

[DerwinBosa]

Six NFL executives were asked who they think the Chargers will take fifth overall. Four of them think it will be an offensive lineman. What's interesting is there are just as many executives who believe the Cardinals will take Joe Alt or Dallas Turner as there are who believe they will select Marvin Harrison, Jr.

5. Los Angeles Chargers: Joe Alt, OT, Notre Dame

Vote distribution: Alt 2, Fashanu 2, Turner 1, Nabers 1

The first four execs polled sent an offensive lineman to the Chargers, figuring the pick would make sense symbolically for the team’s old-school coach, Jim Harbaugh. But there was some strong pushback against this idea as well, which we’ll get to in a moment.

“Joe Alt might be the safest and most complete of the tackles,” one exec said. “They have a left tackle. They could play him at right tackle. You are going to want to give the quarterback a run game, and then you are going to want to protect him for the first time in his career.”

Solid thinking, but is it solid value?

“That is one thing I just don’t get,” another exec said. “Taking a guy to play right tackle, I just don’t understand that. Alt is clean, and I love Alt, but with pass rushers, there is a big difference in the value of the position to me. We can find a right tackle.”

This exec penciled in Turner for the Chargers. Another leaned toward the offensive line initially but thought Nabers would make the greater impact.

“To get Herbert a guy like Nabers would give them some L.A. fireworks,” he said.

https://theathletic.com/5317893/2024/03/06/nfl-mock-draft-gms-jayden-daniels-drake-maye/

[Chargers8491]

Should the Lions have drafted a natural right tackle instead of Penei Sewell in 2021?

They got lucky. Rather not need luck with a top 10 pick. I bet you would probably find more failures than success at moving players from one position to another. Again, I don't have a problem with it when it's a late round pick plus this year's draft is loaded with tackles.

[wu-dai clan]

[OG619FrightninLightnin]

Should the Lions have drafted a natural right tackle instead of Penei Sewell in 2021?

Hes the exception not the rule in my opinion

Plus

I just don't think any of these tackles are of his caliber.

[Chargers8491]

Alt may be able to make the transition but IMHO, it's not worth the risk with a high 1st rnd pick.