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  • Fouts2herbert
    Charger Fan since 1978
    • Sep 2021
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    Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

    Let's see how Joey does this year with a new regime and trainer. Regardless, it isn't a big need this year and we can draft Edge next year and get one later in this draft.

    Maybe if the Raiders want to trade up with us we can get 13, their 2nd, 3rd and Koonce. I liked Koonce and he played real well last year for them and he is very affordable.
    The chargers won't be drafting this high next year, so no access to the top Edge player next year, also who are you drafting later on in the draft that comes close Verse, Turner, or Latu?

    the team is in perfect position to get the absolute best defensive player in this draft this year and that won't happen next year or later in the draft...the one argument that could be made is that this years none quarterback BPA is a WR but that position is deep and has shown that superstars can be found later in the draft, can't really say the same about Edge...
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    • Boltjolt
      Dont let the PBs fool ya
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      Originally posted by Fouts2herbert View Post

      The chargers won't be drafting this high next year, so no access to the top Edge player next year, also who are you drafting later on in the draft that comes close Verse, Turner, or Latu?

      the team is in perfect position to get the absolute best defensive player in this draft this year and that won't happen next year or later in the draft...the one argument that could be made is that this years none quarterback BPA is a WR but that position is deep and has shown that superstars can be found later in the draft, can't really say the same about Edge...
      So? Edge isn't a big need this year. What kind of question is that? You can ask that about every position.

      We have holes all over and we can't get top picks every where. The Chiefs pick near the bottom every year and keep getting good players. They got Karlaftis at 30. They got a Edge rusher last year at 31, McDuffie was 21st. Bolton, Creed Humphrey and Jones were all 2nd rounders.
      Have some faith, Telesco isn't drafting for us anymore.


      There are some good edge rushers in this draft. Booker, Trice, Kneeland, Harrel, Ellis...later picks. Edge is a pretty good class this year as well.

      I mean, should we draft a QB because we are picking 5th even though we don't really need one except maybe a backup?
      1. Mason Taylor TE LSU
      2. Quinshon Judkins RB Ohio st
      3. Kyle Kennard Edge So. Carolina
      ✓
      4. CJ West DT Indiana
      5. Don'te Thornton WR Tennessee
      6. Zah Frazier CB UTSA
      6. Jarquez Hunter RB Auburn
      6. Jay Higgins LB Iowa
      6. Hunter Wohler S Wisconsin
      7. Carson Vinson OT Alabama

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      • Critty
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        • Mar 2019
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        Originally posted by Fouts2herbert View Post

        Mack and Joey are one year rentals and the chargers are drafting in the top 5, when will they get a shot at one of the top Edge players in the draft again? we see guys like pika nacua come out of the 5th round and tear shit up in the NFL, when was the last time you saw a 5th round Edge player take the league by storm defensively? the only one I can think about was Max Crosby and even he didn't become himself until about year 2 or 3...
        Mack is here this year and next.
        Bosa will be traded and/or cut at some point in next 2 years.
        Who has it better than us?

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        • Maniaque 6
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          • Jan 2019
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          Originally posted by Fouts2herbert View Post

          The chargers won't be drafting this high next year, so no access to the top Edge player next year, also who are you drafting later on in the draft that comes close Verse, Turner, or Latu?

          the team is in perfect position to get the absolute best defensive player in this draft this year and that won't happen next year or later in the draft...the one argument that could be made is that this years none quarterback BPA is a WR but that position is deep and has shown that superstars can be found later in the draft, can't really say the same about Edge...
          D. Turner and L. Latu with the two Vikings 1st round !

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          • Boltgang74
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            Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

            So? Edge isn't a big need this year. What kind of question is that? You can ask that about every position.

            We have holes all over and we can't get top picks every where. The Chiefs pick near the bottom every year and keep getting good players. They got Karlaftis at 30. They got a Edge rusher last year at 31, McDuffie was 21st. Bolton, Creed Humphrey and Jones were all 2nd rounders.
            Have some faith, Telesco isn't drafting for us anymore.


            There are some good edge rushers in this draft. Booker, Trice, Kneeland, Harrel, Ellis...later picks. Edge is a pretty good class this year as well.

            I mean, should we draft a QB because we are picking 5th even though we don't really need one except maybe a backup?
            Muhammad Kamara in the later rounds might be a steal.

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            • Critty
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              Originally posted by Velo View Post

              Harbaugh values the OL. But Alt is not described as a generational talent like MHJ, Bowers or Nabers. If they don’t trade down, they will draft the best available player at #5, and I don’t think that is Alt.
              I would be shocked if Jim/Joe had Bowers rated higher than Alt on their board. I strongly suspect they have Alt as their #1 OL and top 5 non QB prospect. I think Bowers is not even a top 10 non QB prospect on Joe Hortiz draft board.


              Who has it better than us?

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              • Lone Bolt
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                • Feb 2019
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                Originally posted by Critty View Post

                I would be shocked if Jim/Joe had Bowers rated higher than Alt on their board. I strongly suspect they have Alt as their #1 OL and top 5 non QB prospect. I think Bowers is not even a top 10 non QB prospect on Joe Hortiz draft board.

                Disagree...not about Bowers...Alt is good all around, but a good board should also consider fit...I think its very possible they value powerful, mauling RT prospects like Fuaga, or even Latham, more than a polished LT prospect. But...JMO.
                Lone Bolt's Final Mock

                Tyler Booker G, Josaiah Stewart Edge, Cam Skattebo RB, Mitchell Evans TE, Jamaree Caldwell NT, Isaac TeSlaa WR, Ahmed Hassanein DE, Craig Woodson S, Eli Cox C, Kalel Mullings RB

                Sleeper day 3 pick: Tahj Brooks RB Texas Tech

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                • wu-dai clan
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                  Alt is #3 overall at Ourlads.
                  Why try to disparage his talent level ?
                  The X factor of trade(s) ahead of us must be considered.
                  I am still waiting for people to come up with comments that show they have studied Alt.
                  At least you saw him slip on the carpet in Indy.
                  That is the extent of engaging in scrutiny that most including so called experts have conducted.
                  And a comp is about play style, not talent level, relatively or generally speaking.
                  We play modern Harball.

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                  • Lone Bolt
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                    Originally posted by Velo View Post

                    Harbaugh values the OL. But Alt is not described as a generational talent like MHJ, Bowers or Nabers. If they don’t trade down, they will draft the best available player at #5, and I don’t think that is Alt.
                    Disagree...I think Harbaugh is building a team, and his picks will be based on fit and utility with that process...I dont think they will make selections based on consensus best player available...but again...JMO
                    Lone Bolt's Final Mock

                    Tyler Booker G, Josaiah Stewart Edge, Cam Skattebo RB, Mitchell Evans TE, Jamaree Caldwell NT, Isaac TeSlaa WR, Ahmed Hassanein DE, Craig Woodson S, Eli Cox C, Kalel Mullings RB

                    Sleeper day 3 pick: Tahj Brooks RB Texas Tech

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                    • Lone Bolt
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                      Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
                      Alt is #3 overall at Ourlads.
                      Why try to disparage his talent level ?
                      The X factor of trade(s) ahead of us must be considered.
                      I am still waiting for people to come up with comments that show they have studied Alt.
                      At least you saw him slip on the carpet in Indy.
                      That is the extent of engaging in scrutiny that most including so called experts have conducted.
                      And a comp is about play style, not talent level, relatively or generally speaking.
                      I have studied Alt...highest floor LT in the draft. Hard to find mistakes in his game...but he is only tech sound as a run blocker...he isnt violent or dominating...and in passpro, its more about smarts and technique, vs movement skills/athleticism. Is he good? Hell yes...but he is a LT...and not really a nasty mauling type...which is how I like my RTs.

                      Wouldnt be disappointed with that pick at all...but got a hunch if its OT in the first, we may well opt for a different prospect.
                      Lone Bolt's Final Mock

                      Tyler Booker G, Josaiah Stewart Edge, Cam Skattebo RB, Mitchell Evans TE, Jamaree Caldwell NT, Isaac TeSlaa WR, Ahmed Hassanein DE, Craig Woodson S, Eli Cox C, Kalel Mullings RB

                      Sleeper day 3 pick: Tahj Brooks RB Texas Tech

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                      • Eurobolt
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                        We cannot take LT in 1st round and play him RT as that will turn bad on us once we talk extension, holdoits no leverage if ttade needed etc

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                        • wu-dai clan
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                          Originally posted by Lone Bolt View Post

                          Disagree...not about Bowers...Alt is good all around, but a good board should also consider fit...I think its very possible they value powerful, mauling RT prospects like Fuaga, or even Latham, more than a polished LT prospect. But...JMO.
                          A "good board."
                          What is that ?
                          These are critical judgement calls.
                          Such is the nature of the top of any draft class.
                          We will be choosing either one prospect or another.
                          It is a given that there will be elite prospects on the board after we select one of them.

                          Two months ago, Duke Manyweather was asked specifically about the Chargers drafting Alt and moving him to ORT. Duke said that in his literally professional opinion, there would be plenty of time for Alt to adapt.

                          The response around here was to throw shade on Duke's bonafides. Why ? TPB can't put their finger on it, but they just don't want to draft Alt because...

                          I would even go so far as to say there is a FEAR that we will draft Alt, due to the Harbaugh effect. Well, this is a great prospect and he would have a profound impact.

                          I have an idea in mind from out in left field, but that is certainly subject to change before the 25th.

                          Carry on my friends.
                          We all want the grand prize.
                          We play modern Harball.

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