2024 Chargers Draft Superthread - Prospect Discussion - Draft Has Started

[wu-dai clan]

Let me ask you trenchers.

Is Puni the best guy for us for a team that wants to run the ball? If we play him at RT, he is a good pass protector but not as good a run blocker. And at RG do we want a inside guy who isn't a strong run blocker?

I like his potential but weak run blocking has been our problem so can't get past that. What does Thorn say about his run blocking at the next level?

I like that Frazier was a wrestler. Helps with hand placement.

Puni and Frazier must be on our list.

[Boltnut]

Let me ask you trenchers.

Is Puni the best guy for us for a team that wants to run the ball? If we play him at RT, he is a good pass protector but not as good a run blocker. And at RG do we want a inside guy who isn't a strong run blocker?

I like his potential but weak run blocking has been our problem so can't get past that. What does Thorn say about his run blocking at the next level?

I like that Frazier was a wrestler. Helps with hand placement.

That's just the thing. Brandon Thorn is looking at the whole prospect... regardless of scheme. Guys that are versatile will end up getting higher grades from him... because they can play multiple positions, there are a greater number of teams that can use them a greater number of ways. But it doesn't mean they fit our system best... or can perform the duties that we need them to do in our scheme.

IMO, we're going to rate offensive linemen on their ability to run-block first and foremost. Meaning that certain players will be a bit higher/lower on our board than other teams' boards.

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[Boltjolt]

That's just the thing. Brandon Thorn is looking at the whole prospect... regardless of scheme. Guys that are versatile will end up getting higher grades from him... because they can play multiple positions, there are a greater number of teams that can use them a greater number of ways. But it doesn't mean they fit our system best... or can perform the duties that we need them to do in our scheme.

IMO, we're going to rate offensive linemen on their ability to run-block first and foremost. Meaning that certain players will be a bit higher/lower on our board than other teams' boards.

Right....I do like him. I don't think he is a bad run blocker, he just isn't a road grader and seems more at home in pass blocking. But like you said if we run first, that will matter at the next level.

However, If he takes well to coaching he could be a very good prospect. Another thing, all his snaps have been at LG and LT.

[Boltjolt]

Puni and Frazier must be on our list.

Agree, just have concerns.

[Boltnut]

Right....I do like him. I don't think he is a bad run blocker, he just isn't a road grader and seems more at home in pass blocking. But like you said if we run first, that will matter at the next level.

However, If he takes well to coaching he could be a very good prospect. Another thing, all his snaps have been at LG and LT.

I haven't watched much film on Fautani, Nourzad, or Puni... so my take on each one might be wrong.
They all look like very good pass blockers. From what I can surmise... they all have very good lateral movement skills.
They seem to all be part of an outside zone blocking scheme (correct me if I'm wrong).
Does that mean they couldn't be coached up in the power-gap...? IDK... I just haven't seen enough power gap to tell.
All of them seem to have the "girth" to do it.

I'll tell you... the IOL class looks really good... and deep.

[Xenos]

Wonder how low he’ll go?

[Boltjolt]

It's comical and if a team picks said player early then it's somehow a reach.

I honestly do like reading them but it's a little comical for reasons I stated....tho there is a bit of perspective in there.
However I was thinking .....this looks like our forum 🤣

[wu-dai clan]

Agree, just have concerns.

Brandon Thorn on Puni:

"Square power and body control.
Calm, collected footwork.
Played in a run heavy RPO based system.
...ability to stay attached, in control, and sustain blocks."

Jeremiah gushed about Puni at the Combine.

[21&500]

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4 more days....

[Formula 21]

I no longer expect the Bolts to trade down in the first. Hortiz wants a one sided deal. I like that.

But all I ever see is us trading away from a premium player for a solid player and a bag of beans. Not happening. Just pick at 5 and walk away happy.

I also am picking up the vibe that the QBs might be dropping in value. Stay tuned on that one.

[21&500]

That makes sense F21 because now that Joe has gone public with that, he can't take a fair deal. So in a way it's almost like preparing the fanbase for sticking at 5 and communicating that we didn't get a good enough deal.
Might be doing this because he's realized there isn't a strong enough demand for 2nd tier QB prospects.

I'll still mock for the Minnesota trade down because I think Arizona sticks and picks MH2.
I think us and Minnesota is happening and it will involve 2025 pick(s)