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  • Topcat
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    • Jan 2019
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    Originally posted by 21&500 View Post
    That makes sense F21 because now that Joe has gone public with that, he can't take a fair deal. So in a way it's almost like preparing the fanbase for sticking at 5 and communicating that we didn't get a good enough deal.
    Might be doing this because he's realized there isn't a strong enough demand for 2nd tier QB prospects.

    I'll still mock for the Minnesota trade down because I think Arizona sticks and picks MH2.
    I think us and Minnesota is happening and it will involve 2025 pick(s)
    Do u think Trader Joe plays super hardball, making the Vikes sweat until we're on the clock, until they cough up #11, #23, a 4th rounder, AND next year's 1st and maybe a 3rd or 4th?
    22 - TE Mason Taylor
    55 - RB Quinshon Judkins
    86 - DL Josiah Stewart
    125 - G Dylan Fairchild
    158 - C Jake Majors
    181 - WR Donte Thornton

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    • richpjr
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      Originally posted by Topcat View Post

      Do u think Trader Joe plays super hardball, making the Vikes sweat until we're on the clock, until they cough up #11, #23, a 4th rounder, AND next year's 1st and maybe a 3rd or 4th?
      The Vikings won't give up that much.

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      • Topcat
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        Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

        Let me ask you trenchers.

        Is Puni the best guy for us for a team that wants to run the ball? If we play him at RT, he is a good pass protector but not as good a run blocker. And at RG do we want a inside guy who isn't a strong run blocker?

        I like his potential but weak run blocking has been our problem so can't get past that. What does Thorn say about his run blocking at the next level?

        I like that Frazier was a wrestler. Helps with hand placement.
        Puni's pass pro grade is excellent, but run blocking grade not terrible...

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        Rating: 84.4 Rank: #18 Forty: 5.35 Dominick Puni stands out as a robust and versatile offensive lineman, possessing the physical attributes and on-field intelligence NFL teams covet. His ...

        22 - TE Mason Taylor
        55 - RB Quinshon Judkins
        86 - DL Josiah Stewart
        125 - G Dylan Fairchild
        158 - C Jake Majors
        181 - WR Donte Thornton

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        • Topcat
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          Originally posted by richpjr View Post

          The Vikings won't give up that much.
          Well, not bad compared to the Cards demanding three 1st rounders...
          22 - TE Mason Taylor
          55 - RB Quinshon Judkins
          86 - DL Josiah Stewart
          125 - G Dylan Fairchild
          158 - C Jake Majors
          181 - WR Donte Thornton

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          • Fouts2herbert
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            I can't wait until the focus turns to the ACTUAL players Hortiz drafted and the UDRFA he signed...
            "The author assumes no responsibility or liability for any errors or omissions in the content of this post. The information contained in this post is provided on an "as is" basis with no guarantees of completeness, accuracy, usefulness or timeliness..."​​

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            • Topcat
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              Originally posted by richpjr View Post

              The Vikings won't give up that much.
              I still stand by my earlier prediction that Trader Joe gives the Vikes #5 for #11, #23, a 4th rounder and next year's 3rd rounder...
              (Or, stand pat @#5...)
              Last edited by Topcat; 04-21-2024, 08:12 PM.
              22 - TE Mason Taylor
              55 - RB Quinshon Judkins
              86 - DL Josiah Stewart
              125 - G Dylan Fairchild
              158 - C Jake Majors
              181 - WR Donte Thornton

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              • Boltjolt
                Dont let the PBs fool ya
                • Jun 2013
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                Originally posted by Topcat View Post

                Puni's pass pro grade is excellent, but run blocking grade not terrible...

                image.png

                Rating: 84.4 Rank: #18 Forty: 5.35 Dominick Puni stands out as a robust and versatile offensive lineman, possessing the physical attributes and on-field intelligence NFL teams covet. His ...
                Nice....it didn't look bad, just not road grader type. Beebe will move people. Puni is a good prospect just not sure their preference in that regard.
                1. Mason Taylor TE LSU
                2. Quinshon Judkins RB Ohio st
                3. Kyle Kennard Edge So. Carolina
                ✓
                4. CJ West DT Indiana
                5. Don'te Thornton WR Tennessee
                6. Zah Frazier CB UTSA
                6. Jarquez Hunter RB Auburn
                6. Jay Higgins LB Iowa
                6. Hunter Wohler S Wisconsin
                7. Carson Vinson OT Alabama

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                • Topcat
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                  Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

                  Nice....it didn't look bad, just not road grader type. Beebe will move people. Puni is a good prospect just not sure their preference in that regard.
                  If Puni is there in say round 6, since he's played at both G and T, I wouldn't mind having him...at least to upgrade our depth...who would u rather have as a backup? Puni, Jaimes or Sarrell?
                  22 - TE Mason Taylor
                  55 - RB Quinshon Judkins
                  86 - DL Josiah Stewart
                  125 - G Dylan Fairchild
                  158 - C Jake Majors
                  181 - WR Donte Thornton

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                  • 21&500
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                    Originally posted by Topcat View Post

                    Do u think Trader Joe plays super hardball, making the Vikes sweat until we're on the clock, until they cough up #11, #23, a 4th rounder, AND next year's 1st and maybe a 3rd or 4th?
                    I do. I think we end up with
                    11
                    23
                    2025 1st
                    At least.

                    Edit: we might give up another later pick in 2025
                    HAMMER TIME
                    (can't touch him)

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                    • Formula 21
                      The Future is Now
                      • Jun 2013
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                      Originally posted by Ghost of Quacksaw View Post

                      You may be right. Or not! We'll see if Hortiz and Harbaugh agree with you, in less than a week.

                      There are legit justifications for going any of several directions with the pick at #5. I don't believe there's only ONE *right* way to approach getting the talent involved in winning. To me, trading down and acquiring additional Day 2 picks would allow the Chargers to fill more holes-- competently, solidly-- immediately. IMO, guys like Cooper DeJean, Braden Fiske, Edgerrin Cooper and Johnny Newton would ALL be huge, instant upgrades, and they all fall into the "Late 1st-to-mid-2nd round" cluster. But you'll only get ONE of them, unless you trade down and get more draft capital.
                      That only happens if someone is willing to overpay for the pick. Trading down five spots in the first for an extra 3rd rounder? I’d be pissed.
                      Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
                      Let’s win one for Mack.

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                      • Formula 21
                        The Future is Now
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                        Originally posted by 21&500 View Post
                        That makes sense F21 because now that Joe has gone public with that, he can't take a fair deal. So in a way it's almost like preparing the fanbase for sticking at 5 and communicating that we didn't get a good enough deal.
                        Might be doing this because he's realized there isn't a strong enough demand for 2nd tier QB prospects.

                        I'll still mock for the Minnesota trade down because I think Arizona sticks and picks MH2.
                        I think us and Minnesota is happening and it will involve 2025 pick(s)
                        What happens if MH2 goes 3rd? That just blows everything up. MH2 may have near QB value.
                        Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
                        Let’s win one for Mack.

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                        • Boltjolt
                          Dont let the PBs fool ya
                          • Jun 2013
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                          Originally posted by Topcat View Post

                          If Puni is there in say round 6, since he's played at both G and T, I wouldn't mind having him...at least to upgrade our depth...who would u rather have as a backup? Puni, Jaimes or Sarrell?
                          He won't make it to the 6th.
                          1. Mason Taylor TE LSU
                          2. Quinshon Judkins RB Ohio st
                          3. Kyle Kennard Edge So. Carolina
                          ✓
                          4. CJ West DT Indiana
                          5. Don'te Thornton WR Tennessee
                          6. Zah Frazier CB UTSA
                          6. Jarquez Hunter RB Auburn
                          6. Jay Higgins LB Iowa
                          6. Hunter Wohler S Wisconsin
                          7. Carson Vinson OT Alabama

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