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  • Bolt4Knob
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    Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post

    That’s a touching story, but i still see this as a need pick as a RT at 5 in this draft and not BPA.
    Ive also never heard or read the term “finesse” used when describing Bowers, Odunze, Alt, Mitchell, Arnold, Harrison, Turner, Murphy, Latu, Verse.

    Ive never seen “finesse” player used for them….
    Hortiz worked for the Ravens for 26 years
    They had a plan and executed it. Look at the history of RT with the Ravens - its a bunch of older players recently - Villareal from the STeelers, last year Moses - -I just don't see Latham the pick at 5. Now later in R1 - for sure

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    • Boltx
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      Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

      Hortiz worked for the Ravens for 26 years
      They had a plan and executed it. Look at the history of RT with the Ravens - its a bunch of older players recently - Villareal from the STeelers, last year Moses - -I just don't see Latham the pick at 5. Now later in R1 - for sure
      Hard to extrapolate from his time in Baltimore as he wasn't the GM and didn't have the final say. Who knows what players he had pushing for behind the scenes.

      Also the biggest x factor - how much say will Harbaugh have? Latham and Alt just make too much sense...
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      • Jack Burton
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        Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

        Hortiz worked for the Ravens for 26 years
        They had a plan and executed it. Look at the history of RT with the Ravens - its a bunch of older players recently - Villareal from the STeelers, last year Moses - -I just don't see Latham the pick at 5. Now later in R1 - for sure
        I’m not saying Latham’s a bad pick.
        Im saying he’s not BPA at 5 in this draft considering positional value as well.
        That’s a reach pick to me. Just my opinion though….

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        • Boltx
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          Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post

          That’s a touching story, but i still see this as a need pick as a RT at 5 in this draft and not BPA.
          Ive also never heard or read the term “finesse” used when describing Bowers, Odunze, Alt, Mitchell, Arnold, Harrison, Turner, Murphy, Latu, Verse.

          Ive never seen “finesse” player used for them….
          All I'm saying is that you could easily make a compelling argument that the organization has Alt or Latham ranked as their top player, this fulfilling need AND best player available.

          Especially when you factor in the kind of team they want to be...guys like that take on more value so they are likely looking at it through a different lens than you or I.

          And absolutely any WR or TE picked is going to be a finesse player compared to the strongest guy in the draft in Latham, or a pitbull like Alt. I think we are done picking skilled position guys that high. *MHjr the exception.
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          • Jack Burton
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            Originally posted by Boltx View Post

            All I'm saying is that you could easily make a compelling argument that the organization has Alt or Latham ranked as their top player, this fulfilling need AND best player available.

            Especially when you factor in the kind of team they want to be...guys like that take on more value so they are likely looking at it through a different lens than you or I.

            And absolutely any WR or TE picked is going to be a finesse player compared to the strongest guy in the draft in Latham, or a pitbull like Alt. I think we are done picking skilled position guys that high. *MHjr the exception.
            I don’t think you can easily make a compelling case that a strictly RT prospect is the 5th best player in specifically this draft.
            And he’s strictly a RT if you were drafting him to the Chargers.
            I don’t even think you can easily make the case he’s the best RT in this draft.
            I do think you can easily make the case he’s a 1st round pick and a starter day 1 at RT.
            Which is why at 5 this is a preference-need pick to me.

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            • UtahBolt
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              FWIW, Daniel Jeremiah was just on the Dan Patrick Show and explained why an un-named tackle moved up his final mock board. DJ said he called a certain OL coach in the SEC and asked him which NFL team had called him the most and basically what the OL coach told him is reflected in his mock. So DP laughed and said so the Chargers are taking a tackle and DJ laughed in what sounded like agreement. Take that for what it's worth.

              I'm still holding out for Bowers.
              I'll ride the wave...where it takes me.

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              • CanadianBoltFan
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                In his final mock draft Dane Brugler has the Chargers picking Latham....joining Jeremiah, Sikkema, Shrager and about 7 others.

                He had him at 11 in the Vikings trade which we better hope for. In these mocks they cant always factor in trades so some have Latham at 5, though some are saying the Chargers will pick him even at 5. Not a stretch to think Harbaugh wants the strongest player in the draft.

                Lots and lots of smoke here on this player on the Chargers and its within hours of the draft. This isnt just lying season.

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                • Boltx
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                  Originally posted by CanadianBoltFan View Post
                  In his final mock draft Dane Brugler has the Chargers picking Latham....joining Jeremiah, Sikkema, Shrager and about 7 others.

                  He had him at 11 in the Vikings trade which we better hope for. In these mocks they cant always factor in trades so some have Latham at 5, though some are saying the Chargers will pick him even at 5. Not a stretch to think Harbaugh wants the strongest player in the draft.

                  Lots and lots of smoke here on this player on the Chargers and its within hours of the draft. This isnt just lying season.
                  It's gonna be Latham.

                  Like Belicheck said, the real rumors don't start until draft day. And here we are.
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                  • Bolt4Knob
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                    Originally posted by CanadianBoltFan View Post
                    In his final mock draft Dane Brugler has the Chargers picking Latham....joining Jeremiah, Sikkema, Shrager and about 7 others.

                    He had him at 11 in the Vikings trade which we better hope for. In these mocks they cant always factor in trades so some have Latham at 5, though some are saying the Chargers will pick him even at 5. Not a stretch to think Harbaugh wants the strongest player in the draft.

                    Lots and lots of smoke here on this player on the Chargers and its within hours of the draft. This isnt just lying season.
                    I would be disappointed if the pick is Latham at 5 and 4 QBs have gone already as that means MHJr is on the board. But if MHJr is gone and Latham is the best prospect remaining - so be it.

                    I trust JH2

                    And who knows, it might be Dane Bugler has the name right and the spot drafted correct and the others like Jeremiah have the name but not at 5. Shrager is just piggybacking on talking to jeremiah - my guess he doesn't have sources with the Chargers - too much of a fan boy with the McVay Shanahan crowd

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                    • Boltx
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                      Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post

                      I don’t think you can easily make a compelling case that a strictly RT prospect is the 5th best player in specifically this draft.
                      And he’s strictly a RT if you were drafting him to the Chargers.
                      I don’t even think you can easily make the case he’s the best RT in this draft.
                      I do think you can easily make the case he’s a 1st round pick and a starter day 1 at RT.
                      Which is why at 5 this is a preference-need pick to me.
                      Again, I would just avoid attaching labels to these guys because I don't think Harbaugh and Hortiz see it that way.

                      They likely don't see Latham as a "RT." They see him as a nasty, monster of a man that will help change the tone/culture of this team and help the run game, and protect JH. Perfect fit, perfect value, perfect need.

                      So in that sense, his value is immense to us. In fact I would say it's enough to put him as the top ranked player FOR US and what we are trying to accomplish.

                      Bring on the maulers.

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                      • Boltjolt
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                        Originally posted by Lone Bolt View Post

                        Yea...Im reading "reach" and "big mistake" from some fans on here... cuz he's not their guy...ridiculous...if Harbaugh AND Joe Hortiz pick Latham over all those guys, dont you think they have a reason? Who are we to question that? Im sure they would like to trade back and get him, but if nobody is dealing? They arent gonna say "well...we wanted Latham, he is perfect for us...but we should pick Alt or Nabors, cuz it wont be viewed as a reach by fans and media...we dont wanna look bad..."

                        By the way...not my guy either...but if Jim n Joe pick him, he sure as hell will be my guy THEN...
                        If he is the pick then , he is the pick. But he wont be BPA at 5 and he isnt the best OT in this draft.

                        Its only one play, but it was the play that mattered and a loss to send Harbaugh to the Natty game.

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                        • Boltx
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                          Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                          I would be disappointed if the pick is Latham at 5 and 4 QBs have gone already as that means MHJr is on the board. But if MHJr is gone and Latham is the best prospect remaining - so be it.

                          I trust JH2

                          And who knows, it might be Dugler has the name right and the spot drafted correct and the others like Jeremiah have the name but not at 5. Shrager is just piggybacking on talking to jeremiah - my guess he doesn't have sources with the Chargers - too much of a fan boy with the McVay Shanahan crowd
                          Agreed about MHjr being off the board to make this move.

                          I have to admit...I'm a bit confused about all the hand wringing this morning about Latham. For years....DECADES we've complained about being such a weak, pitiful team up front. And now we have a chance to grab a guy that embodies all the things that Harbaugh wants, and we seem to be getting cold feet.

                          These "boring" picks are what help close out games in January as we trample over the enemy team's fatigued lines. I'm all for it.
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