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  • Xenos
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    No way they can predict what Hortiz/Harbaugh will do tomorrow. Maybe with Telesco since there’s 10 years of data there. But I don’t see it. Has to be smokescreen.

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    • Fouts2herbert
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      Originally posted by Xenos View Post
      No way they can predict what Hortiz/Harbaugh will do tomorrow. Maybe with Telesco since there’s 10 years of data there. But I don’t see it. Has to be smokescreen.

      anyone who decides to bet on this deserves to lose their money, holy cow!
      "The author assumes no responsibility or liability for any errors or omissions in the content of this post. The information contained in this post is provided on an "as is" basis with no guarantees of completeness, accuracy, usefulness or timeliness..."​​

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      • Charge!
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        Originally posted by DerwinBosa View Post

        If Harrison is gone before #5, and we stay there, I think it will be Alt or Odunze.
        most caoches and real experts, universally for past 2 years.....rate the best, most cant miss players in this draft as Harrison and Bowers....

        If Harrison is gone, we take Bowers, because he is BPA and will have the greatest impact on the new Chargers offense that will be playing 2 TE's most of the time which means we will have only one WR most of the time and 2 WR's the other times....

        If Chargers choose one of these top 3 great WR's, we can only afford to keep them for 4 years!....5 years if we let them walk but a smart organization will trade them after 4th season to get draft compensation..... with a great QB contract, we cannot afford 30-40 million per year for a diva WR..... the top TE salary is far far cheaper!.... so we can keep Bowers for his career like we kept Gates....

        great CB's can take away great WR's, but no one can take away a great TE.... DB's are too small and LBers are too slow.....KC proved that by easily beating the 2 best most talented NFL defenses in SF and Balt...... with no great WR's.... yet neither super talented defensive team could stop a great receiving TE when it counted!.... and they won 2 consecutive SB's this way... NE won many the same way!

        Great teams are built by controlling the middle of the field:
        • Stuffing the run with great DL and great LBers...
        • OL, running the ball with a power running game...
        • big tough power RB's who break tackles and dont fumble....
        • and a great physical TE who is open quickly when defenses blitze like KC does almost every play.......
        • and tough WR's willing to run over the middle and block on running plays....

        We have to win division and beat chiefs to do advance in playoffs......With Bowers, we can BEAT the chiefs.... in regular season and in playoffs....

        Walsh was quoted as saying WR's are a dime a dozen.... he, the genius was right!.... the QB, coach and system make the receivers.... there are many talented WR's we never notice because of bad coaching or bad QB play....

        and today, only bad teams without a great QB can afford a great WR after the "cheap" rookie contract.....

        Only one more day, till we all find out.....

        Remember.....there are lots (way more then typical) of great WR depth, great OL depth and great CB depth in this draft...... all of our biggest needs after having a great TE which we had none for years.... and have not had since Gates......

        remember too that the final 4 best teams last season, all had the top 4 TE's in the NFL, and NONE of the elite WR's.....

        I know so many fans love great WR's due to fantasy reasons and spectacular long plays..... but great TE's open up offenses for average level WR's......

        If Chargers take one oif the top 3 WRs or Alt at 5 we will be getting a GREAT player..... Im just saying Bowers is the better "FIT" and the offensive piece we have been missing for over a decade....





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        • DerwinBosa
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          Originally posted by Charge! View Post

          most caoches and real experts, universally for past 2 years.....rate the best, most cant miss players in this draft as Harrison and Bowers....

          If Harrison is gone, we take Bowers, because he is BPA and will have the greatest impact on the new Chargers offense that will be playing 2 TE's most of the time which means we will have only one WR most of the time and 2 WR's the other times....

          If Chargers choose one of these top 3 great WR's, we can only afford to keep them for 4 years!....5 years if we let them walk but a smart organization will trade them after 4th season to get draft compensation..... with a great QB contract, we cannot afford 30-40 million per year for a diva WR..... the top TE salary is far far cheaper!.... so we can keep Bowers for his career like we kept Gates....

          great CB's can take away great WR's, but no one can take away a great TE.... DB's are too small and LBers are too slow.....KC proved that by easily beating the 2 best most talented NFL defenses in SF and Balt...... with no great WR's.... yet neither super talented defensive team could stop a great receiving TE when it counted!.... and they won 2 consecutive SB's this way... NE won many the same way!

          Great teams are built by controlling the middle of the field:
          • Stuffing the run with great DL and great LBers...
          • OL, running the ball with a power running game...
          • big tough power RB's who break tackles and dont fumble....
          • and a great physical TE who is open quickly when defenses blitze like KC does almost every play.......
          • and tough WR's willing to run over the middle and block on running plays....

          We have to win division and beat chiefs to do advance in playoffs......With Bowers, we can BEAT the chiefs.... in regular season and in playoffs....

          Walsh was quoted as saying WR's are a dime a dozen.... he, the genius was right!.... the QB, coach and system make the receivers.... there are many talented WR's we never notice because of bad coaching or bad QB play....

          and today, only bad teams without a great QB can afford a great WR after the "cheap" rookie contract.....

          Only one more day, till we all find out.....

          Remember.....there are lots (way more then typical) of great WR depth, great OL depth and great CB depth in this draft...... all of our biggest needs after having a great TE which we had none for years.... and have not had since Gates......

          remember too that the final 4 best teams last season, all had the top 4 TE's in the NFL, and NONE of the elite WR's.....

          I know so many fans love great WR's due to fantasy reasons and spectacular long plays..... but great TE's open up offenses for average level WR's......

          If Chargers take one oif the top 3 WRs or Alt at 5 we will be getting a GREAT player..... Im just saying Bowers is the better "FIT" and the offensive piece we have been missing for over a decade....




          I really don't think we're taking Bowers at #5.

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          • Formula 21
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            Hortiz’s side squeeze’s best friend’s boyfriend has been running his mouth in the bar again about how Hortiz is gonna draft Latham. It’s all hush hush so keep it to yourself.
            Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
            The Wasted Decade is done.
            Build Back Better.

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            • Charge!
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              Originally posted by Xenos View Post
              No way they can predict what Hortiz/Harbaugh will do tomorrow. Maybe with Telesco since there’s 10 years of data there. But I don’t see it. Has to be smokescreen.

              latham would be a stupid TT pick.....

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              • northerner
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                Originally posted by Charge! View Post

                most caoches and real experts, universally for past 2 years.....rate the best, most cant miss players in this draft as Harrison and Bowers....

                If Harrison is gone, we take Bowers, because he is BPA and will have the greatest impact on the new Chargers offense that will be playing 2 TE's most of the time which means we will have only one WR most of the time and 2 WR's the other times....

                If Chargers take one oif the top 3 WRs or Alt at 5 we will be getting a GREAT player..... Im just saying Bowers is the better "FIT" and the offensive piece we have been missing for over a decade.... [/B]

                i'm with you on Bowers, but it would be great to move back 1-3 spots and get an extra pick from somebody.

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                • Formula 21
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                  According to ESPN’s Matt Miller, in his final mock draft of the first round, “sources around the NFL say Harrison has an assurance from the Cardinals that he will be the pick if available at this spot.”

                  General manager Monti Ossenfort has made it clear that the team is open for business for a trade, which makes sense. He will take any call. However, unless he is blown away by an offer, it makes sense to stay and select Harrison.
                  Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
                  The Wasted Decade is done.
                  Build Back Better.

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                  • Jack Burton
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                    Originally posted by Charge! View Post

                    most caoches and real experts, universally for past 2 years.....rate the best, most cant miss players in this draft as Harrison and Bowers....

                    If Harrison is gone, we take Bowers, because he is BPA and will have the greatest impact on the new Chargers offense that will be playing 2 TE's most of the time which means we will have only one WR most of the time and 2 WR's the other times....

                    If Chargers choose one of these top 3 great WR's, we can only afford to keep them for 4 years!....5 years if we let them walk but a smart organization will trade them after 4th season to get draft compensation..... with a great QB contract, we cannot afford 30-40 million per year for a diva WR..... the top TE salary is far far cheaper!.... so we can keep Bowers for his career like we kept Gates....

                    great CB's can take away great WR's, but no one can take away a great TE.... DB's are too small and LBers are too slow.....KC proved that by easily beating the 2 best most talented NFL defenses in SF and Balt...... with no great WR's.... yet neither super talented defensive team could stop a great receiving TE when it counted!.... and they won 2 consecutive SB's this way... NE won many the same way!

                    Great teams are built by controlling the middle of the field:
                    • Stuffing the run with great DL and great LBers...
                    • OL, running the ball with a power running game...
                    • big tough power RB's who break tackles and dont fumble....
                    • and a great physical TE who is open quickly when defenses blitze like KC does almost every play.......
                    • and tough WR's willing to run over the middle and block on running plays....

                    We have to win division and beat chiefs to do advance in playoffs......With Bowers, we can BEAT the chiefs.... in regular season and in playoffs....

                    Walsh was quoted as saying WR's are a dime a dozen.... he, the genius was right!.... the QB, coach and system make the receivers.... there are many talented WR's we never notice because of bad coaching or bad QB play....

                    and today, only bad teams without a great QB can afford a great WR after the "cheap" rookie contract.....

                    Only one more day, till we all find out.....

                    Remember.....there are lots (way more then typical) of great WR depth, great OL depth and great CB depth in this draft...... all of our biggest needs after having a great TE which we had none for years.... and have not had since Gates......

                    remember too that the final 4 best teams last season, all had the top 4 TE's in the NFL, and NONE of the elite WR's.....

                    I know so many fans love great WR's due to fantasy reasons and spectacular long plays..... but great TE's open up offenses for average level WR's......

                    If Chargers take one oif the top 3 WRs or Alt at 5 we will be getting a GREAT player..... Im just saying Bowers is the better "FIT" and the offensive piece we have been missing for over a decade....




                    I’d love for you to be right….

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                    • Jack Burton
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                      Originally posted by northerner View Post

                      i'm with you on Bowers, but it would be great to move back 1-3 spots and get an extra pick from somebody.
                      I do think somebody will want to move up…

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                      • ChargerTrader
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                        Originally posted by Formula 21 View Post
                        According to ESPN’s Matt Miller, in his final mock draft of the first round, “sources around the NFL say Harrison has an assurance from the Cardinals that he will be the pick if available at this spot.”

                        General manager Monti Ossenfort has made it clear that the team is open for business for a trade, which makes sense. He will take any call. However, unless he is blown away by an offer, it makes sense to stay and select Harrison.
                        This could then leave Harbaugh and Hortiz deciding where JJ ends up if multiple teams make a call.

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                        • Topcat
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                          • Jan 2019
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                          Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

                          Eh, DJ had us picking Michael Meyer last year in round 1 and he went round 2. We didn't draft a TE at all from a deep class
                          Although DJ did correctly call Derwin to us...when he was considered a top 5 player...

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