And With The 5th Pick Of The NFL Draft Chargers Select....Discussion

[Chargers8491]

The Chargers have a really fast receiver in Derius Davis who was under used last year, IMHO. Bowers with Davis, QJ, KA, and likely 2024 draft pick will be very difficult to cover all these guys. I know QJ needs to work on his confidence and catching ability but not ready to give up on him yet.

[Boltjolt]

Part of the lack of explosive plays were due to drops and missed passes.

Bills WRs dropped at least 2 deep balls and Allen missed on at least 2-3 big throws.

He also missed reads. He had Diggs wide open underneath in the middle on that throw to the EZ that he didnt get enough on and would of been a first down around the 10-15

[AK47]

He also missed reads. He had Diggs wide open underneath in the middle on that throw to the EZ that he didnt get enough on and would of been a first down around the 10-15

Gotta give credit for Stevie Spags. He's a master of defensive adjustments and disguises. Not sure why teams aren't lining up to interview him.

[sonorajim]

The Chargers have a really fast receiver in Derius Davis who was under used last year, IMHO. Bowers with Davis, QJ, KA, and likely 2024 draft pick will be very difficult to cover all these guys. I know QJ needs to work on his confidence and catching ability but not ready to give up on him yet.

Palmer is pretty good. QJ looks great except for the catching the ball part. He cannot catch the football in NFL games. He needs to spend a few thousand hours with the jugs machine 'till he can catch in his sleep and see a psychiatrist about whatever makes him fail under pressure.

[sonorajim]

Watching every playoff game I'm absorbing a couple big lessons

1. EVERY OT gets beat on a couple plays every game.
2. Good TEs are making a huge difference in every game, often the winning difference
3. Interior DTs that disrupt both pass and run throw the whole fucking offense off kilter. Great teams have this central anchor.
4. Receivers making huge impact are not Top 5 Rd1 superstars

My Charger Analysis
1. Pipkins is not elite but we can survive
2. We do not have a TE like this
3. We do not have an Interior DT player that does this
4. We don't have a true Elite #1 WR (KA does that job within his physical limitations, imagine if he was #2)

So ... TE, DT, and WR are more likely to improve the 2024 Chargers than OT with R1 pick. Plus I'm not convinced Alt or Fashanu are really top tier OTs that are that much better than the next tier.
Question will be are they aiming for 2024, or 2025?
If building the trench - trade down and go DL with R1 pick
IF adding a weapon, I'd go Bowers then Nabers, but can see B, N or Odunze all as viably too close to really nitpick about.

I'd add a 2nd round center if we can't sign a quality vet. I'm way jealous of the centers I saw last weekend.
Watching an injured Ragnow deal with Vita Vea was awesome.
If the rest of our OL are acceptable, then our OC and OL coach are not good enough. We could not run, which is a must and pass pro was not good. Also a must.
We need Bowers and a RB that can block, catch and run.
I like DT also but care more about taking care of Herbert and helping him dominate on O.
We were one of the NFL's weakest 2nd half offenses, maybe the worst in 3rd quarter. That shit HAS to stop.
I want us to play with the big boys and put Herbert back on the charts that count. TDs and Ws in 2024.

[CanadianBoltFan]

Watching every playoff game I'm absorbing a couple big lessons

1. EVERY OT gets beat on a couple plays every game.
2. Good TEs are making a huge difference in every game, often the winning difference
3. Interior DTs that disrupt both pass and run throw the whole fucking offense off kilter. Great teams have this central anchor.
4. Receivers making huge impact are not Top 5 Rd1 superstars

My Charger Analysis
1. Pipkins is not elite but we can survive
2. We do not have a TE like this
3. We do not have an Interior DT player that does this
4. We don't have a true Elite #1 WR (KA does that job within his physical limitations, imagine if he was #2)

So ... TE, DT, and WR are more likely to improve the 2024 Chargers than OT with R1 pick. Plus I'm not convinced Alt or Fashanu are really top tier OTs that are that much better than the next tier.
Question will be are they aiming for 2024, or 2025?
If building the trench - trade down and go DL with R1 pick
IF adding a weapon, I'd go Bowers then Nabers, but can see B, N or Odunze all as viably too close to really nitpick about.

I like your analysis. I am with you.

[blueman]

Palmer is pretty good. QJ looks great except for the catching the ball part. He cannot catch the football in NFL games. He needs to spend a few thousand hours with the jugs machine 'till he can catch in his sleep and see a psychiatrist about whatever makes him fail under pressure.

I think LT had the same problem rookie season IIRC, spent the offseason doing the jugs machine relentlessly, no more problems with catching after that lol.

[AK47]

Palmer is pretty good. QJ looks great except for the catching the ball part. He cannot catch the football in NFL games. He needs to spend a few thousand hours with the jugs machine 'till he can catch in his sleep and see a psychiatrist about whatever makes him fail under pressure.

In my 20's - 30's I'd usually binge watch training cut scenes from Rocky, Blood Sport, Hard to Kill, etc.

In my 40's I'd watch Scotty Kilmer, read James Patterson books, and meditate.

In my expert opinion QJ should catch footballs while watching Blood Sport cut scenes while his oil is being drained via oil change. He'd be a badass WR!!!!

[dmac_bolt]

The Bills failure last night should prove to EVERYONE here that Nabors must be the pick.

Allen was not sacked and they ran the ball for 180 yards. They lacked explosive playmakers. Gabe Davis was out and Diggs is 30 and not the same.

DRAFT EXPLOSIVENESS!!!!

But maybe having a Kelce type in Bowers opens things up for average WRs...
LOL who knows.

Kelce scored 2 of the Chiefs 3 TDs and led the team in both REC and YDS.

Buy yourself a clue

[CanadianBoltFan]

Kelce scored 2 of the Chiefs 3 TDs and led the team in both REC and YDS.

Buy yourself a clue

Actually the playoffs have showcased what a stud TE can do to keep an offense moving in tough games. All 4 finalists have stud TEs on their rosters

[BigBad]

Ok I’m back on Bowers

[Boltjolt]

Ok I’m back on Bowers

Yea, IF we are going to run Harbaughs two YE set offense, a TE is a must. Bowers can block , catch... A weapon in that offense. In any offense but he will be more than just a blocker which he can do.

May have to sign one as well or draft two. Maybe he likes his Michigan TE AJ Barner in round 5 as well.

I just don't see Parham as a good fit if we switch to that offensive set. Maybe he can be a #3, and he is signed for next year.

But we don't know yet til he hires a OC and Moore isn't here.