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  • thelightningwill
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    Originally posted by blahblahblah View Post
    Yeah, that's not an answer to the question.
    I didn't know you were looking for a literal answer.

    Was L. Taylor known for taking plays off? Maybe not plays during games. He took off practices, got suspended a lot, and gave his coach a ton of lip over the course of his career.

    I assumed his doing an underage sex slave would rate as more stupid than taking some plays off in college football games. But now that I know all your questions are to be taken literally, I'll be sure to give you the specific answers you are looking for.

    Sorry for my error.

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    • blahblahblah
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      Originally posted by thelightningwill View Post
      I didn't know you were looking for a literal answer.

      Was L. Taylor known for taking plays off? Maybe not plays during games. He took off practices, got suspended a lot, and gave his coach a ton of lip over the course of his career.

      I assumed his doing an underage sex slave would rate as more stupid than taking some plays off in college football games. But now that I know all your questions are to be taken literally, I'll be sure to give you the specific answers you are looking for.

      Sorry for my error.
      Yay internets.

      I'm not particularly concerned with the smarts of an edge rusher. I am concerned with effort and reliability. LT doing all that stuff really has no relation to Clowney. I wanted to know if a generational player had the same flags and concerns as Clowney about effort.

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      • Panama
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        Originally posted by Yubaking View Post
        Clowney has been referred to as the best defensive prospect of the 21st century...
        ...until next year!
        Adipose

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        • thelightningwill
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          Originally posted by blahblahblah View Post
          Yay internets.

          I'm not particularly concerned with the smarts of an edge rusher. I am concerned with effort and reliability. LT doing all that stuff really has no relation to Clowney. I wanted to know if a generational player had the same flags and concerns as Clowney about effort.
          No he didn't. Not coming out of college. I think some team avoided him because he wanted too much money.
          Last edited by thelightningwill; 10-19-2013, 03:48 PM.

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          • Fleet
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            Man MIke Evans is a beast. One of the best games ive seen a WR play in a while.

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            • Coachmarkos
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              Haven't kept up with this thread, but caught some of the "late" game last night. You know who looked good?

              Sean Mannion
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              I know the chargers won't be looking at a qb, and I know the "other" Oregon qb gets all the praise...but Mannion looked like an nfl qb last night.
              (of course, it was against Cal, so take that FWIW)
              "...of course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong."

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              • zoom
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                Finally got a chance to watch Hageman today. That guy is a freak!

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                • Bearded14YourPleasure
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                  Watching Barr against Oregon I couldn't help but think what a great fit he would be for us. Tremendous pass rusher, but looked good dropping back into coverage and playing the run as well. Clowney may be the better athlete, but I think Barr will end up the better football player.

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                  • Beerman
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                    Originally posted by Bearded14YourPleasure View Post
                    Watching Barr against Oregon I couldn't help but think what a great fit he would be for us. Tremendous pass rusher, but looked good dropping back into coverage and playing the run as well. Clowney may be the better athlete, but I think Barr will end up the better football player.
                    I think Clowney would be a better 4-3 DE, Barr the better 3-4 OLB.

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                    • ArtistFormerlyKnownAsBKR
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                      This Adams kid from Fresno is pretty impressive.

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                      • thelightningwill
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                        Originally posted by ArtistFormerlyKnownAsBKR View Post
                        This Adams kid from Fresno is pretty impressive.
                        Are we talking John Quincy or Wednesday?

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                        • Stinky Wizzleteats+
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                          2015 compensatory picks loom over possible deadline deals

                          Posted by Mike Florio on October 29, 2013, 10:19 AM EDT

                          For teams considering the possibility of trading players in a contract year, an important factor creeps into the equation.

                          Balanced against possible draft-pick compensation for 2014 is the likely impact of the player’s departure through free agency on the compensatory picks to be distributed in 2015.

                          It’s a complex formula that few completely understand. The NFL doesn’t publish the rules, and the league did not respond to an email sent Monday by PFT regarding the procedure for determining compensatory picks.

                          Per a league source who was reluctant to say too much on the topic, the NFL look at various factors when assessing compensatory draft picks, including the total average of the player’s contracts, his playing time, his Pro Bowl appearances. Age is a factor, if the player is on his third contract.

                          The most compensatory picks that any team can get in any year is four.

                          One common misconception comes from the idea that one compensatory pick is provided for each player lost in free agency. The league office determines compensatory picks based on net gains and losses in free agency, for transactions occurring from the start of the league year through June 1. During that window, free-agency arrivals can cancel out free-agency losses for compensatory-pick purposes.

                          After June 1, free-agency acquisitions don’t count toward the compensatory pick calculation, either for the player’s former team or his new team. It’s one of the reasons the Ravens waited until after June 1 to sign former Jaguars linebacker Daryl Smith.

                          That’s why some teams will resist signing unrestricted free agents in March, April, or May, opting instead to sign veterans whose contracts were terminated due to cap reasons or otherwise.

                          Like everything else in football, some teams navigate this issue better than others. Regardless, any team thinking about trading a player due to become a free agent in 2014 needs to attempt to project what losing the player via free agency will do to its compensatory picks for 2015.
                          Go Rivers!

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