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  • pigskin
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    Love the mock on Walter Football right now.

    7. Los Angeles Chargers: Malik Hooker, S, Ohio State

    The Chargers' biggest needs are on the offensive line and at safety. Of those, Hooker is the best player available, and Los Angeles would be fortunate if he fell this far.

    In late September, weeks before other draft media where aware of Hooker, WalterFootball.com reported that Hooker was receiving high first-round grades from teams. He was one of the breakout stars of the 2016 season. Multiple team sources have said they see Hooker as a top-10 pick. Ohio State lost both Vonn Bell and Tyvis Powell to the NFL, but the redshirt sophomore Hooker was an upgrade for the Buckeyes.

    In 2016, Hooker totaled 74 tackles with 5.5 for a loss, .5 sacks, four passes broken up and seven interceptions. Three of those picks were returned for touchdowns. The 6-foot-1, 206-pounder has excellent size to go along with great speed and instincts. Hooker is tremendous as the deep center fielder with rare skills as a pass-coverage free safety who has drawn comparisons to Ed Reed. He also has the size and strength to come downhill and fill in the ground game. Hooker could be a dynamic safety in the NFL. He is the real dea


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    38. Los Angeles Chargers: Haason Reddick, OLB, Temple

    The Chargers grab a linebacker for Gus Bradley's 4-3 defense.

    Reddick (6-1, 237) was an edge rusher in college who has to move to outside linebacker in the NFL. He showed that he can make that switch at the Senior Bowl as he flew around the field and was constantly around the ball. Still, sources with teams say that Reddick is a real project for the NFL and will take time to develop at linebacker considering he has no game experience there. In 2016, Reddick totaled 65 tackles with 22.5 tackles for a loss, 10.5 sacks, three forced fumbles and three passes broken


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    71. Los Angeles Chargers: Desmond King, CB, Iowa
    The Chargers could use some cornerback depth after cutting Brandon Flowers.

    In 2016, King notched 58 tackles with seven passes broken up, three interceptions and one forced fumble. He also made some good kick and punt returns. King was one of the breakout players of 2015 as he displayed tremendous ball skills with eight interceptions and 13 passes broken up. He also had 72 tackles to go along with good returns on kicks and punts. In 2014, King totaled 64 tackles with five breakups and three interceptions. As a freshman, he had 69 tackles with eight passes batted.

    King (5-10, 206) could have been an early round pick if he had declared for the 2016 NFL Draft. He is an instinctive corner with good ball skills, but running with speed receivers is a weakness for him in the NFL. Some teams might move him to safety, and that could be his best fit in the NFL.


    113. Los Angeles Chargers: Isaiah Ford, WR, Virginia Tech
    The Chargers could use some receiver depth.

    Ford totaled 79 receptions for 1,094 yards and seven touchdowns in 2016. The 6-foot-1, 194-pounder had a breakout sophomore season with 75 receptions for 1,156 yards with 11 touchdowns. He also contributed as a freshman with 56 catches for 709 yards and six scores. If Ford can show the speed to separate and stretch the field vertically, that would help the junior's draft stock.

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      2017 NFL Draft: Mike Mayock positional rankings 2.0 - changes in the secondary
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      What changes has Mike Mayock made to his position rankings in the wake of the Combine?
      by Chris Pflum Mar 21, 2017, 1:00pm EDT

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      Mike Mayock has a pretty sweet gig with the NFL Network. Contacts all over the league, all the tape he can watch, and VIP status at every draft event — the Shrine Game, Senior Bowl, Combine, Pro Days, and the draft itself — from January to May.

      And unlike pretty much every other draft expert, Mayock doesn’t need to churn out big boards or mock drafts every week. No, instead he releases his top five prospects at each position and updates it a couple times throughout the process. He doesn’t even have to offer explanations regarding his thought process in making or updating the rankings.

      Like I said: Sweet gig.

      However, Mayock is also fairly universally recognized as one of the very best in the business. His access to tape, league contacts, and abilities as a scout mean that when he says something, it’s worth paying attention to.

      Tuesday morning he released his revised “Top Five” list, and in addition to movement at just about every position group, there are always some surprises.
      Running Back

      There aren’t really any surprises here. After a terrific combine Christian McCaffrey ascended to number two on the depth chart, and Leonard Fournette took the top spot from Dalvin Cook, who fell to number three. Also, Samaje Perine made it to the list in favor of teammate Joe Mixon.
      Wide Receiver

      No real surprises here either. Corey Davis and Mike Williams are still one and two in the rankings, but after setting a new combine record in the 40-yard dash, Washington’s John Ross is Mayock’s third receiver. New to the list is USC wideout Ju-Ju Smith-Schuster.
      Tight End

      The top of the ranking isn’t changed. However, Southern Alabama tight end (though some teams might see him as a receiver) Gerald Everett rose from fifth to fourth, and Iowa Hawkeye George Kittle took over the fifth spot from Jake Butt.

      Curiously, Virginia Tech tight end Bucky Hodges is nowhere to be seen despite having a good Combine workout, which included setting a record of his own in the broad jump.
      Offensive Line

      Mayock breaks the offensive line into tackle and interior groups, but there aren’t any major changes in either. Dion Dawkins and Ethan Pocic traded places in the interior group, and were joined by OSU center Pat Elflein who ties Pocic at fifth.

      Defensive Line

      There aren’t any changes on the interior of the defensive line, but there is movement at the Edge Rusher position. Alabama sack artist Tim Williams dropped from second to fifth after a disappointing combine, while Stanford’s Solomon Thomas jumped from fourth to second. Takkarist McKinley rounds out the list by moving up from fifth to fourth.

      Linebacker

      There aren’t any major changes or surprises among the linebackers. The only change is a swap between Jarrad Davis and Zach Cunningham, who traded third and fourth positions (Davis rose while Cunningham fell).
      Cornerback

      With the injury to Sidney Jones, who was Mayock’s top corner in the first edition of the rankings, there has been a big shake-up this time around.

      Marshon Lattimore and Marlon Humphrey each rose a spot to become numbers one and two respectively. The rest of the depth chart is filled out by Washington’s Kevin King (third), OSU’s Gareon Conley (fourth), and UCLA’s Fabian Moreau (fifth), all of whom were unrated in the initial rankings.

      There weren’t any changes in Mayock’s “Nickel” rankings.

      Safety

      The big change here is the rise of Jabril Peppers from third to first, which isn’t surprising after an extremely gutsy performance at the Combine that not only showed off his athleticism and versatility, but an eagerness to compete at every opportunity. Ohio State’s Malik Hooker feel from first to third to make room for Peppers.

      UConn’s Obi Melifonwu moved from fifth to fourth, making room for Utah’s Marcus Williams and Florida’s Marcus Maye, who were not rated, but now tie for fifth.
      Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
      The Wasted Decade is done.
      Build Back Better.

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        Mike Mayock's 2017 NFL Draft position rankings 2.0





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        By Mike Mayock
        NFL Media draft analyst
        Published: March 21, 2017 at 08:56 a.m.

        Mike Mayock unveils the second of his position-by-position rankings for the 2017 NFL Draft.

        Quarterback

        1. DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame
        2. Deshaun Watson, Clemson
        3. Mitchell Trubisky, North Carolina
        4. Patrick Mahomes II, Texas Tech
        5. Davis Webb, California
        Running Back

        1. Leonard Fournette, LSU
        2. Christian McCaffrey, Stanford
        3. Dalvin Cook, Florida State
        4. Alvin Kamara, Tennessee
        5. Samaje Perine, Oklahoma

        Rise: Fournette (2), McCaffrey (3), Perine (NR)
        Fall: Cook (1), Joe Mixon, Oklahoma (5, added to special exceptions)
        Wide receiver

        1. Corey Davis, Western Michigan
        2. Mike Williams, Clemson
        3. John Ross, Washington
        4. Zay Jones, East Carolina
        T-5. Cooper Kupp, Eastern Washington
        T-5. JuJu Smith-Schuster, USC

        Rise: Jones (5), Smith-Schuster (NR)
        Fall: Kupp (4),


        Tight end

        1. O.J. Howard, Alabama
        2. David Njoku, Miami
        3. Evan Engram, Ole Miss
        4. Gerald Everett, South Alabama
        5. George Kittle, Iowa

        Rise: Everett (5), Kittle (NR)
        Fall: Jake Butt, Michigan (4, added to special exceptions)
        Offensive tackle

        1. Ryan Ramczyk, Wisconsin
        2. Garett Bolles, Utah
        3. Antonio Garcia, Troy
        4. Roderick Johnson, Florida State
        T-5. Taylor Moton, Western Michigan
        T-5. Jermaine Eluemunor, Texas A&M
        Interior OL

        1. Forrest Lamp, Western Kentucky
        2. Cam Robinson, Alabama
        3. Dan Feeney, Indiana
        4. Dion Dawkins, Temple
        T-5. Ethan Pocic, LSU
        T-5. Pat Elflein, Ohio State

        Rise: Dawkins (5), Elflein (NR)
        Fall: Pocic (4)
        Interior DL

        1. Jonathan Allen, Alabama
        2. Caleb Brantley, Florida
        3. Malik McDowell, Michigan State
        4. Larry Ogunjobi, Charlotte
        5. Chris Wormley, Michigan

        Edge rusher

        1. Myles Garrett, Texas A&M
        2. Solomon Thomas, Stanford
        3. Derek Barnett, Tennessee
        4. Takkarist McKinley, UCLA
        5. Tim Williams, Alabama

        Rise: Thomas (4), McKinley (5)
        Fall: Williams (2)
        Linebacker

        1. Reuben Foster, Alabama
        2. Haason Reddick, Temple
        3. Jarrad Davis, Florida
        4. Zach Cunningham, Vanderbilt
        5. Alex Anzalone, Florida

        Rise: Davis (4)
        Fall: Cunningham (3)
        Cornerback

        1. Marshon Lattimore, Ohio State
        2. Marlon Humphrey, Alabama
        3. Kevin King, Washington
        4. Gareon Conley, Ohio State
        5. Fabian Moreau, UCLA

        Rise: Lattimore (2), Humphrey (3), King (NR), Conley (NR), Moreau (NR)
        Fall: Sidney Jones, Washington (1, added to special exceptions), Teez Tabor, Florida (4), Tre'Davious White, LSU (5)
        Nickel

        1. Budda Baker, Washington
        2. Chidobe Awuzie, Colorado
        3. Jourdan Lewis, Michigan
        4. Desmond King, Iowa
        5. Damontae Kazee, San Diego State

        Safety

        1. Jabrill Peppers, Michigan
        2. Jamal Adams, LSU
        3. Malik Hooker, Ohio State
        4. Obi Melifonwu, Connecticut
        T-5. Marcus Williams, Utah
        T-5. Marcus Maye, Florida

        Rise: Peppers (3), Melifonwu (5), Williams (NR), Maye (NR)
        Fall: Hooker (1) , Budda Baker, Washington (4, added to nickel)
        Special exceptions

        1. Adoree' Jackson, USC
        2. Curtis Samuel, Ohio State
        3. Sidney Jones, Washington
        4. Jake Butt, Michigan
        5. Joe Mixon, Oklahoma

        Additions: Jones (previously No. 1 CB), Butt (previously No. 4 TE), Mixon (previously No. 5 RB)
        Moved: Chidobe Awuzie, Colorado (3, moved to nickel), Desmond King, Iowa (4, moved to nickel)
        Fall: Adam Shaheen, Ashland (5)
        Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
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        Build Back Better.

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          Originally posted by Formula Two One View Post
          Mike Mayock's 2017 NFL Draft position rankings 2.0





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          By Mike Mayock
          NFL Media draft analyst
          Published: March 21, 2017 at 08:56 a.m.

          Mike Mayock unveils the second of his position-by-position rankings for the 2017 NFL Draft.

          Quarterback

          1. DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame
          2. Deshaun Watson, Clemson
          3. Mitchell Trubisky, North Carolina
          4. Patrick Mahomes II, Texas Tech
          5. Davis Webb, California
          Running Back

          1. Leonard Fournette, LSU
          2. Christian McCaffrey, Stanford
          3. Dalvin Cook, Florida State
          4. Alvin Kamara, Tennessee
          5. Samaje Perine, Oklahoma

          Rise: Fournette (2), McCaffrey (3), Perine (NR)
          Fall: Cook (1), Joe Mixon, Oklahoma (5, added to special exceptions)
          Wide receiver

          1. Corey Davis, Western Michigan
          2. Mike Williams, Clemson
          3. John Ross, Washington
          4. Zay Jones, East Carolina
          T-5. Cooper Kupp, Eastern Washington
          T-5. JuJu Smith-Schuster, USC

          Rise: Jones (5), Smith-Schuster (NR)
          Fall: Kupp (4),


          Tight end

          1. O.J. Howard, Alabama
          2. David Njoku, Miami
          3. Evan Engram, Ole Miss
          4. Gerald Everett, South Alabama
          5. George Kittle, Iowa

          Rise: Everett (5), Kittle (NR)
          Fall: Jake Butt, Michigan (4, added to special exceptions)
          Offensive tackle

          1. Ryan Ramczyk, Wisconsin
          2. Garett Bolles, Utah
          3. Antonio Garcia, Troy
          4. Roderick Johnson, Florida State
          T-5. Taylor Moton, Western Michigan
          T-5. Jermaine Eluemunor, Texas A&M
          Interior OL

          1. Forrest Lamp, Western Kentucky
          2. Cam Robinson, Alabama
          3. Dan Feeney, Indiana
          4. Dion Dawkins, Temple
          T-5. Ethan Pocic, LSU
          T-5. Pat Elflein, Ohio State

          Rise: Dawkins (5), Elflein (NR)
          Fall: Pocic (4)
          Interior DL

          1. Jonathan Allen, Alabama
          2. Caleb Brantley, Florida
          3. Malik McDowell, Michigan State
          4. Larry Ogunjobi, Charlotte
          5. Chris Wormley, Michigan

          Edge rusher

          1. Myles Garrett, Texas A&M
          2. Solomon Thomas, Stanford
          3. Derek Barnett, Tennessee
          4. Takkarist McKinley, UCLA
          5. Tim Williams, Alabama

          Rise: Thomas (4), McKinley (5)
          Fall: Williams (2)
          Linebacker

          1. Reuben Foster, Alabama
          2. Haason Reddick, Temple
          3. Jarrad Davis, Florida
          4. Zach Cunningham, Vanderbilt
          5. Alex Anzalone, Florida

          Rise: Davis (4)
          Fall: Cunningham (3)
          Cornerback

          1. Marshon Lattimore, Ohio State
          2. Marlon Humphrey, Alabama
          3. Kevin King, Washington
          4. Gareon Conley, Ohio State
          5. Fabian Moreau, UCLA

          Rise: Lattimore (2), Humphrey (3), King (NR), Conley (NR), Moreau (NR)
          Fall: Sidney Jones, Washington (1, added to special exceptions), Teez Tabor, Florida (4), Tre'Davious White, LSU (5)
          Nickel

          1. Budda Baker, Washington
          2. Chidobe Awuzie, Colorado
          3. Jourdan Lewis, Michigan
          4. Desmond King, Iowa
          5. Damontae Kazee, San Diego State

          Safety

          1. Jabrill Peppers, Michigan
          2. Jamal Adams, LSU
          3. Malik Hooker, Ohio State
          4. Obi Melifonwu, Connecticut
          T-5. Marcus Williams, Utah
          T-5. Marcus Maye, Florida

          Rise: Peppers (3), Melifonwu (5), Williams (NR), Maye (NR)
          Fall: Hooker (1) , Budda Baker, Washington (4, added to nickel)
          Special exceptions

          1. Adoree' Jackson, USC
          2. Curtis Samuel, Ohio State
          3. Sidney Jones, Washington
          4. Jake Butt, Michigan
          5. Joe Mixon, Oklahoma

          Additions: Jones (previously No. 1 CB), Butt (previously No. 4 TE), Mixon (previously No. 5 RB)
          Moved: Chidobe Awuzie, Colorado (3, moved to nickel), Desmond King, Iowa (4, moved to nickel)
          Fall: Adam Shaheen, Ashland (5)
          I'm just not sure about ranking Jabril Peppers as #1 Safety. He is an athlete no freaking doubt about that but he kind of seems to be a jack of all master of none type. Adams is solid as hell, love his game. My first thought watching Hooker was how much he reminded me of Antonio Cromartie, just a physical ball hawking freak. Obi definately medalled in the underwear olympics just not sure about him.


          To me Adams is money in the bank. Hooker "could be a home run or a rookie contract tease. Obi is a project and Peppers could bounce around before he finds his niche.

          Budda excited the hell out of me. Dude flies all over the field but, and this is a Kardashian sized but, he makes way too many shoestring tackles even when squared. I understand he is undersized and takes these bigger guys low but go back and watch him, he's tying shoes out there.
          Last edited by chargerkdb; 03-21-2017, 12:41 PM.

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            I'm scared of Obi high. Not enough production for his skills.
            Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
            The Wasted Decade is done.
            Build Back Better.

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              Originally posted by Formula Two One View Post
              I'm scared of Obi high. Not enough production for his skills.
              He has more production than Hooker. Even if you only look at this year he had 128 tackles, 4 INT, and 1 FF compared to Hooker's 74 tackles and 7 INT. He also has the advantage of having started more than one year. I'm not advocating Obi over Hooker, Hooker definitely has the greater upside, but to say he doesn't have the production is simply not true. For reference Adams had 76 tackles, 1 INT, and 1 FF. Honestly I think Obi is going to end up going in the 15-25 range.

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                I don't like using number of tackles as a gauge to production of a safety. That could just mean the front seven wasn't good at run defense.
                Id be fine drafting Peppers. Upside with return skills.
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                  Peppers played OLB last season, so I don't see any comparison to Hooker (FS) as being useful. And this is not a case of Peppers was being used like an in the box S, so he was playing more like a LB than a S. This was Peppers being a LB in every sense of the position. So, it is not a case of the front 7 being good or not. He was part of the front 7.

                  Peppers is a major project if we take him. He basically doesn't have a position yet. But the fact that he gets used in so many ways proves how unique he is. If you draft Peppers, it is going to take some time before he can become a starting player. He can probably play as a nickle DB, especally if we are going to play a ton of man to man coverage.

                  Hooker's availablity as a starter will be based on how quickly he recovers from his numerous injuries, and how fast he adapts to the NFL game. History suggests that a guy who only starts for 1 season in college is probably not going to step up and start from day 1 in the NFL. It does happen, but not very often. Especially if the player misses time in the offseason programs.

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                    I didn't compare him to Hooker...... Who may not be there. Just said I'd be fine drafting Peppers, who would be fine using as a nickel at first and he has a possition here. He would be a SS.
                    An in the box safety is all Adams is going to be and he don't have the upside Peppers has imo. I like Hooker but am apprehensive drafting a player who is beat up like he is. Seen enough of that
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                      Any Insder's have The Hair's Mock 3.0 Draft ESPN posted today?
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                        Mel Kiper Mock Draft 2017: Notable Picks from ESPN Guru's 3rd Mock

                        CHAPEL HILL, NC - SEPTEMBER 24: Mitch Trubisky #10 of the North Carolina Tar Heels drops back to pass against the Pittsburgh Panthers during their game at Kenan Stadium on September 24, 2016 in Chapel Hill, North Carolina. (Photo by Streeter Lecka/Getty Images)
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                        ESPN NFL draft analyst Mel Kiper Jr. released his third mock for the upcoming first round of the 2017 NFL draft on Wednesday. The longtime guru currently projects the Cleveland Browns will select Texas A&M defensive lineman Myles Garrett with the first overall pick.

                        He also joined fellow ESPN prognosticator Todd McShay in predicting there would be no quarterbacks taken inside the top 10 when the draft gets underway April 27. The first QB off the board in his latest release is UNC star Mitchell Trubisky to the Browns at No. 12.

                        Here's a look at Kiper's updated forecast for all of Round 1 with five weeks to go:
                        2017 NFL Draft: Mel Kiper Jr. Mock Draft 3.0
                        Pick Team Selection
                        1 Cleveland Browns Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M
                        2 San Francisco 49ers Solomon Thomas, DL, Stanford
                        3 Chicago Bears Jamal Adams, S, LSU
                        4 Jacksonville Jaguars Jonathan Allen, DL, Alabama
                        5 Tennessee Titans (from LAR) Marshon Lattimore, CB, Ohio State
                        6 New York Jets O.J. Howard, TE, Alabama
                        7 Los Angeles Chargers Malik Hooker, S, Ohio State
                        8 Carolina Panthers Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU
                        9 Cincinnati Bengals Takkarist McKinley, OLB, UCLA
                        10 Buffalo Bills Mike Williams, WR, Clemson
                        11 New Orleans Saints Haason Reddick, LB, Temple
                        12 Cleveland Browns (from PHI) Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina
                        13 Arizona Cardinals Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson
                        14 Philadelphia Eagles (from MIN) Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State
                        15 Indianapolis Colts Reuben Foster, ILB, Alabama
                        16 Baltimore Ravens Ryan Ramczyk, OT, Wisconsin
                        17 Washington Redskins Christian McCaffrey, RB, Stanford
                        18 Tennessee Titans John Ross, WR, Washington
                        19 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Corey Davis, WR, Western Michigan
                        20 Denver Broncos David Njoku, TE, Miami (Fla.)
                        21 Detroit Lions Charles Harris, DE, Missouri
                        22 Miami Dolphins Forrest Lamp, OG, Western Kentucky
                        23 New York Giants Derek Barnett, DE, Tennessee
                        24 Oakland Raiders Tre'Davious White, CB, LSU
                        25 Houston Texans Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama
                        26 Seattle Seahawks Kevin King, CB, Washington
                        27 Kansas City Chiefs Zay Jones, WR, East Carolina
                        28 Dallas Cowboys Jabrill Peppers, S, Michigan
                        29 Green Bay Packers Dalvin Cook, RB, Florida State
                        30 Pittsburgh Steelers Tyus Bowser, OLB, Houston
                        31 Atlanta Falcons Taco Charlton, DE, Michigan
                        32 New Orleans Saints (from NE) Marlon Humphrey, CB, Alabama
                        Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
                        The Wasted Decade is done.
                        Build Back Better.

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                          I wouldn't mind trading down to 12-13 if one of those guys wanted to guarantee their choice of qb.
                          Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
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