Official 2025 NFL Draft Superthread | Prospect Discussion

[Boltinloudguy]

I have hope for Rice but agree I’m disappointed. IMHO trying Rice more when your WRs just aren’t solidifying their role past Ladd seems like a good idea. I admit Rice didn’t show up in the very few snaps he had so willing to admit something isn’t clicking.

I agree that it takes time to fully judge a draft class but there is a lot of hype on this draft class and most forget that it wasn’t perfect, there were misses on day 2 and begining of 3. Hopefully I’m wrong on Colson but I was really buying into the fact that he knew this defense and would be able to step in and be a coach on the field. That value is gone in year two so he needs to step up in other ways.

I’ll give you credit for sticking to your guns Budsman. At first glance, Hortiz did very well in his first draft. Especially the first 2 rounds. Right now as it stands, he has 4 starters. With the possibility of 2 more by next season in Colson and Eboigbe. Colson in place of Perryman and Eboigbe in place of Fox. I also think Vidal will show significant improvement as a RB and pass pro. Rice is a wait and see but I think he has the drive and determination to be a solid contributor next year as the 5th WR.

This coming offseason will be their first offseason where they can just focus on a full NFL training offseason and not the draft.

[Javia]

Many believe the lions have the best oline in football. one of their OG was drafted in the first round and the other OG was drafted in the third round, their OC was drafted in the first round.

Makes me think the Chargers should maybe use their first 3 rounds looking at the top IOL players on the board!

Teven Jenkins was a 2nd rounder. He fits. Unfortunately Trey Smith was taken in the 6th and Wil Fries was taken in the 7th.

[Boltinloudguy]

Teven Jenkins was a 2nd rounder. He fits. Unfortunately Trey Smith was taken in the 6th and Wil Fries was taken in the 7th.

I have no doubt in my mind that they will find a future IOL in this draft. If he’ll start or not next year, not sure but they will in year 2 or 3. I only say that because I think Hortiz and Harbaugh will go the FA route in the offseason for IOL.

I am hoping for Ryan Kelly at C and Kevin Zeitler at G. Both on 2-3 year deals.

[Budsman]

Justin Jefferson is arguably the best wide receiver in the NFL right now. He was drafted 22nd overall in 2020, 10 spots after Henry Ruggs, seven spots after Jerry Jeudy, and five spots after Ceedee Lamb. You do realize that many times NFL general managers are wrong, right?

Mac Jones has started five games this season. In those games Thomas caught 36 passes for 481 yards and four touchdowns. That's nearly half of his production this season in fewer games than he had with Lawrence.

You want to wait until the end of the season to jump to that conclusion with Alt, but then you're willing to say other rookies on this team are already misses? OK, then.

Are you serious? I want to wait until the end of the season to see if the guy who starts every game vs not waiting for the guys who haven’t started? It’s notoriously hard to rate a lineman’s performance anyway, you can’t tell if an assignment was there’s etc. it take much more analysis for an OL than looking at a DE who never got on the fucking field or a Running back who can’t beat out a journeyman. Sorry you make zero logical sense with your argument. Yes alt is very good I’m just not ready to call him 2nd like you are. Geez

[sonorajim]

I wasn't diminishing Zay Flowers. You said the Ravens picked 4 pass-catchers in the first round of the last seven drafts. You also pointed out that they rarely drafted a guard or center in the first round in this century. I think you were insinuating they value wide receivers and tight ends over centers and guards. I brought up the reasons I am not so sure of that, just like I won't be if we select a wide receiver or tight end instead of an interior offensive lineman in this upcoming draft. The reality is there probably won't be an interior lineman worth taking in the twenties next April.

IOL who go in the 1st are usually elite players. 2nd is the sweet spot for good C, OGs. Normally.
I wouldn't rule out trade or FA for a vet C, I favor it for us in '25.
Balt's last 4 1st rd picks were WR ('21), C ('22), WR ('23), CB ('24)

[electricgold]

Teven Jenkins was a 2nd rounder. He fits. Unfortunately Trey Smith was taken in the 6th and Wil Fries was taken in the 7th.

Trey Smith will be looking for 21 million per year minimum. Sure it would be nice to sign him, but would you be fine with using that much for an OG? Also Smith was taken in the 6th because he had health concerns that were legit. His career was in doubt before it even starteted.

[Chargers8491]

I don't buy the Ravens West theory as much as many here do either. I know Jim values OL, tip of spear and all that. but if the player is not there, the player is not there. Taking a 3rd round talent in Rd1 doesnt deliver his goal, it hurts his team and he's a smart man.

Or - Maybe there really is a great OG or OC Rd value out there, I'm not a great OL scout. The universe of analysts say there isn't but they are wrong enough that If JH2 think he's there and take one, then I'll support. I want a Day 1 starter from Rd1, a better IOL, and more weapons for Herbert than he now has - nothing less. I don't care where or how they accomplish this.

There are 1st rnd OTs that should be available when the Chargers pick but the question is which none of us can really answer is can/will they make the switch to OF. That is the question the staff needs to answer. There will also be IDL/Edges available when they draft as well. If Grant is on the board when the Chargers pick do they take him? I have no problem with that pick at all. Also, there is a possibility that Jeanty falls as well. Are GMs going to pull the trigger on an RB early in the draft especially when this draft is loaded with RBs that can be gotten in later rounds? I have no idea personally. I do know I faith in the staff to select the right guys and can't wait to see what they do.

[electricgold]

There are 1st rnd OTs that should be available when the Chargers pick but the question is which none of us can really answer is can/will they make the switch to OF. That is the question the staff needs to answer. There will also be IDL/Edges available when they draft as well. If Grant is on the board when the Chargers pick do they take him? I have no problem with that pick at all. Also, there is a possibility that Jeanty falls as well. Are GMs going to pull the trigger on an RB early in the draft especially when this draft is loaded with RBs that can be gotten in later rounds? I have no idea personally. I do know I faith in the staff to select the right guys and can't wait to see what they do.

I would be shocked if Jeanty fell! He'll be gone around the same spot Bijan Robinson was! Almost would be fine with me if we found a way to trade up to draft him!

[Chargers8491]

That rarely happens. Some good rookie defenders have been great but a coach on the field?
Colson is going to be a good one but he had setbacks with the apendicitis and the injury. Sure he knew the defense but is also is in the NFL now.

I dont think some of you understand what a big step up the NFL is from college. College imo is AA ball to the Majors and if you coming from say a Sun Coast Conference thats magnified even more and those that come from sammy small schools who come in as rookies and do well, to me they are the exception and are rare. Ekeler looked good for what he was from N. Colorado st or something like that,.. but didnt get a lot of playing time as a rookie and improved every year. He had 47 carries his rookie year and only 15 of those were in the first half of the season. He was a sleeper we happen to find and he worked out.


Carson Wentz looked good as a rookie and went downhill from there. Stroud dont look as good as teams have more tape on them. Herbert had a great sophomore season then has been banged up every year since.

Agree about Colson he will be fine. He was actually getting players in position last game.

[Budsman]

That rarely happens. Some good rookie defenders have been great but a coach on the field?
Colson is going to be a good one but he had setbacks with the apendicitis and the injury. Sure he knew the defense but is also is in the NFL now.

I dont think some of you understand what a big step up the NFL is from college. College imo is AA ball to the Majors and if you coming from say a Sun Coast Conference thats magnified even more and those that come from sammy small schools who come in as rookies and do well, to me they are the exception and are rare. Ekeler looked good for what he was from N. Colorado st or something like that,.. but didnt get a lot of playing time as a rookie and improved every year. He had 47 carries his rookie year and only 15 of those were in the first half of the season. He was a sleeper we happen to find and he worked out.


Carson Wentz looked good as a rookie and went downhill from there. Stroud dont look as good as teams have more tape on them. Herbert had a great sophomore season then has been banged up every year since.

It was widely mentioned that he was a starter on Minters defense and that he was a god fit to start because of his familiarity with the system. I fully understand the difference but let’s not over exaggerate it either. This isn’t MLB where these guys sit in the minors for 8 years before getting a break. Players often come to the NfL and start as rookies. Rookies can and do make impacts. Heck we have some on our team.

I think the conferences align with the leagues. The SEC is AAA and then they go down from there. It’s why the SEC has so many players going pro.

[Chargers8491]

Look at Vidal game by game this season. His ypc improves with every game. Anywho, hard to evaluate any RB running behind this season's IOL.

Calling Vidal who was drafted in the 6th rnnd and is in year one a miss is ludicrous. He's had some nice runs and as you said he has gotten better. Not only has his ypc improved but so has his pass blocking. He will continue to get better.

[Budsman]

I would be shocked if Jeanty fell! He'll be gone around the same spot Bijan Robinson was! Almost would be fine with me if we found a way to trade up to draft him!

I suspect Jerry falls in love with him. I can’t see him going past the Cowboys, the merch opportunities for Jeanty are off the charts and an owner like Jerry can’t resist it. I think he falls into the Gibbs position of being drafted higher than we think.

I also dream of this offense with Jeanty but I think it’s just a dream with the cake schedule and over achieving. We can’t have our cake and eat it too… unfortunately.