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  • powderblueboy
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    • Jul 2017
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    Originally posted by DerwinBosa View Post

    I don't know what you're watching, then. There is no way there are 50 prospects better than him.
    Is this your email to Brugler? He agrees with me and has watched more tape than you
    Could be that there ain't 50 prospects better .... but I don't care about whose ahead of him, and whose behind.
    I just comment on what I see and how I think he'll fit.

    I speak of him here strictly as a pass rusher ... but he looks a little thin to set the edge in the NFL.
    He'll time well in the 40 because he has good long speed, but I don't care at all about his first two steps going around the bend.

    He doesn't stick his hands into OT's chests, but prefers going around them and doing a dip,
    catching QBs who set up 10 yards back.

    I haven't watched much tape on him, but what little I've seen points me towards agreeing with Brugler over you.

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    • Boltjolt
      Dont let the PBs fool ya
      • Jun 2013
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      Originally posted by powderblueboy View Post

      I do like Tyler Warren - more so than Loveland.

      A Hunter Henry type ... late 1rst?
      Not sure which one I like more yet. Didn't Brugler compare Warren to Tyler Eifort? I dont like that comparison. Somebody did anyways, think it was in his top 50 article
      Last edited by Boltjolt; 11-14-2024, 07:54 AM.

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      • powderblueboy
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        Originally posted by Chargers8491 View Post

        I like Loveland as well and think there is a chance the Chargers could take him in the 1st, but I have a strong feeling they are going DL in the 1st rnd.
        Pretty certain no position will be paramount in the first.

        They'll fill needs a bit later, and not necessarily to start right away ... but to compete with another for starting time.

        How many olinemen did Telesco and his merry crew of head coaching flops ruin by starting them opening game?

        Lamp/Feeney/Zion all should have sat and learned for a year.

        Tevi sat and was the better for it; Pip was such a disaster - not even good enough for field goal protection, they had no choice but to sit him.
        They sat Watt at first and when he started later in the season, he played well at guard.

        Raiders are sitting JPJ starting off; I tend to think TT hasn't learned his lesson and JPJ is just another Telesco whiff at Oline.

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        • beachcomber
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          Originally posted by powderblueboy View Post

          I do like Tyler Warren - more so than Loveland.

          A Hunter Henry type ... late 1rst?
          mid to later second…. ??
          ED Matayo Uiagalelei, CB Domani Jackson,​​ OG Earnest Greene III,​ DT Dontay Corleone, OC Iapani Laloulu, WR J Michael Sturdivant, LB Eric Gentry
          ED Malcom Koonce, LB Isaiah Simmons, TE Cade Otton, RB Kyren Williams, QB Gardner Minshew, TE Jelani Woods,​ P Matt Araiza

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          • beachcomber
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            looking forward to digging in a bit/little deeper, and…. gotta believe the linemen are going to prove to be/play out as the better value/get than the WR/CBs ??
            ED Matayo Uiagalelei, CB Domani Jackson,​​ OG Earnest Greene III,​ DT Dontay Corleone, OC Iapani Laloulu, WR J Michael Sturdivant, LB Eric Gentry
            ED Malcom Koonce, LB Isaiah Simmons, TE Cade Otton, RB Kyren Williams, QB Gardner Minshew, TE Jelani Woods,​ P Matt Araiza

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            • beachcomber
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              • Jan 2019
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              Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

              Annually that's what he wants lol. NT & DT. And not that we won't get one but who knows what's the priority/ big need area this year. Too soon to say.
              But as we sit right now if we do nothing, TE gets my vote.
              Things will certainly change,....and FA'cy comes first and we will be playa's.
              huh…. ?? Kincaid, Zion, and whatever that RTs name was last go ‘round,
              ED Matayo Uiagalelei, CB Domani Jackson,​​ OG Earnest Greene III,​ DT Dontay Corleone, OC Iapani Laloulu, WR J Michael Sturdivant, LB Eric Gentry
              ED Malcom Koonce, LB Isaiah Simmons, TE Cade Otton, RB Kyren Williams, QB Gardner Minshew, TE Jelani Woods,​ P Matt Araiza

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              • Boltjolt
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                • Jun 2013
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                Originally posted by beachcomber View Post

                huh…. ?? Kincaid, Zion, and whatever that RTs name was last go ‘round,
                Yeah, but after that its always a NT or DT in round 2 lol, and yes in 2024 there was the RT, then round 2 Tavondre Sweat.
                Just saying, it's either or and that's not a bad thing. Trenches are needed, especially with Telesco swing and misses. . I'm sure we will draft one of each on O and D this year.

                Not sure if they try to keep either of Tart or Ford but keeping Ford wouldnt hurt.

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                • Boltnut
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                  Pending free agents / PFF grades / Market values (OTC)

                  Khalil Mack / 91.6 / $21.8m
                  Poona Ford / 79.4 / $6.5m
                  Teair Tart / 68.4 / $1m (seems low)
                  Morgan Fox / 55.2 (seems low) / $6.5m
                  Denzel Perryman / 61.8 (seems low) / $4.5m
                  Kristian Fulton / 79.1 / $8m
                  Asante Samuel / 59.3 / $1.8m
                  Elijah Molden / 83.1 / $9.7m

                  Bradley Bozeman / 55.7 / $3.3m
                  Hayden Hurst / 36.4 / $1.1m
                  Josh Palmer / 65.2 / $6m
                  DJ Chark - undetermined
                  JK Dobbins / 63.3 / $7.7m

                  *** After cutting Joey Bosa and Trey Pipkins, the Chargers will be $107.2m under the cap... with only 34 players on the roster.
                  Protect the QB
                  Run the ball
                  Play great defense

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                  • beachcomber
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                    Originally posted by Boltnut View Post
                    Pending free agents / PFF grades / Market values (OTC)

                    Khalil Mack / 91.6 / $21.8m
                    Poona Ford / 79.4 / $6.5m
                    Teair Tart / 68.4 / $1m (seems low)
                    Morgan Fox / 55.2 (seems low) / $6.5m
                    Denzel Perryman / 61.8 (seems low) / $4.5m
                    Kristian Fulton / 79.1 / $8m
                    Asante Samuel / 59.3 / $1.8m
                    Elijah Molden / 83.1 / $9.7m

                    Bradley Bozeman / 55.7 / $3.3m
                    Hayden Hurst / 36.4 / $1.1m
                    Josh Palmer / 65.2 / $6m
                    DJ Chark - undetermined
                    JK Dobbins / 63.3 / $7.7m

                    *** After cutting Joey Bosa and Trey Pipkins, the Chargers will be $107.2m under the cap... with only 34 players on the roster.
                    Khalil $16m
                    Poona $5m
                    Teair $5m
                    Fox $5m
                    Denzel $5m
                    Fulton $8m
                    Asante $5m
                    Molden $9.5m

                    FA Priority * OC, OG, ED
                    ED Matayo Uiagalelei, CB Domani Jackson,​​ OG Earnest Greene III,​ DT Dontay Corleone, OC Iapani Laloulu, WR J Michael Sturdivant, LB Eric Gentry
                    ED Malcom Koonce, LB Isaiah Simmons, TE Cade Otton, RB Kyren Williams, QB Gardner Minshew, TE Jelani Woods,​ P Matt Araiza

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                    • Boltnut
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                      Originally posted by beachcomber View Post

                      Khalil $16m $20m (any thing less is an insult)
                      Poona $5m $6m
                      Teair $5m $2.5m (kind of a low-ball... but let Joe find another FA if Tart wants more)
                      Fox $5m $6m
                      Denzel $5m $6m
                      Fulton $8m $9m
                      Asante $5m (Let him walk... I don't think he's a tackler. Minter likes tacklers)
                      Molden $9.5m (A little too rich for me. Replace in the draft)

                      FA Priority * OC, OG, ED OC and OG could be FA's
                      DE is pretty expensive FA. I'd draft one in the 1st round.
                      I might re-sign Palmer for $5m and Dobbins for $6m. They're young... and would only have to draft RB and WR later for depth.

                      1st: EDGE
                      2nd: TE
                      3rd: safety
                      4th: RB
                      5th: CB or WR

                      Protect the QB
                      Run the ball
                      Play great defense

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                      • CanadianBoltFan
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                        • Jul 2022
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                        Originally posted by Boltnut View Post

                        DE is pretty expensive FA. I'd draft one in the 1st round.
                        I might re-sign Palmer for $5m and Dobbins for $6m. They're young... and would only have to draft RB and WR later for depth.

                        1st: EDGE
                        2nd: TE
                        3rd: safety
                        4th: RB
                        5th: CB or WR
                        I can live with that plan, I want a RB but we can get a decent one in round 4 with the depth of the position. I could see edge and I agree we need to get a good TE. CB and WR depth is good. A little suprised you have safety as high as round 3, I would maybe switch to IOL

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                        • beachcomber
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                          • Jan 2019
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                          not as down on Asante as some are here, and…. not looking a gift horse in the mouth w/Molden, and…. do think the agents will be looking for that extra mil for their clients, and….

                          if I’m Mack, am not insulted…. am over Buffalo/Chicago and think Newport Coast suits him just fine…. I think he’s happy here…. he seems super chill, and…. he ain’t getting any younger, and….

                          gonna take my WR/OC monies and invest in IOL, and take my RB/TE monies and invest in a solid FA ED, and as much prefer the NT/OG options round one over any DE.
                          ED Matayo Uiagalelei, CB Domani Jackson,​​ OG Earnest Greene III,​ DT Dontay Corleone, OC Iapani Laloulu, WR J Michael Sturdivant, LB Eric Gentry
                          ED Malcom Koonce, LB Isaiah Simmons, TE Cade Otton, RB Kyren Williams, QB Gardner Minshew, TE Jelani Woods,​ P Matt Araiza

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