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  • Jack Burton
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    #2161
    Originally posted by Topcat View Post

    That's right in line with Jeremiah's Top 50. He has Taylor @#32:

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    https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jere...t-rankings-4-0
    We’re running out of excuses to not draft this guy at 22..

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    • electricgold
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      #2162
      Terrance Ferguson had more yards, more TD's, averaged more yards per catch, and ran a faster 40! Mason had 12 more catches last season. They are pretty much the exact same size! They both had 7 drops in their college career.

      I would be fine if we drafted either TE, I'm pretty sure either could develop into a solid weapon for Herbert!

      Mason Taylor: YDS: 546 TD: 2 AVG: 9.9 Terrance Ferguson: YDS: 591 TD: 3 AVG: 13.7

      However if we could draft a Booker, Grant, Egbuka, in the first, and a Royals, Henderson, or Higgins in the 2nd we could still possibly get Ferguson in the 3rd I think Id prefer that, than drafting Taylor higher, because his father's name...

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      • eaterfan
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        #2163
        Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post

        We’re running out of excuses to not draft this guy at 22..
        I once again don't understand the fascination with this guy. If his name wasn't Taylor he's a high third round pick. He's a guy who can't block at all, maybe he can learn, and doesn't have burst to separate. He's a bad blocking Hunter Henry. A slightly better Gerald Everett.

        TEs need to be difference makers to be worth a first round pick. His lack of burst will keep him from ever being that and he doesn't have the blocking to fall back on.

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        • Jack Burton
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          #2164
          Originally posted by electricgold View Post
          Terrance Ferguson had more yards, more TD's, averaged more yards per catch, and ran a faster 40! Mason had 12 more catches last season. They are pretty much the exact same size! They both had 7 drops in their college career.

          I would be fine if we drafted either TE, I'm pretty sure either could develop into a solid weapon for Herbert!

          Mason Taylor: YDS: 546 TD: 2 AVG: 9.9 Terrance Ferguson: YDS: 591 TD: 3 AVG: 13.7
          Why does Brugler have Ferguson rated 98 and Taylor 33?
          I wonder where the disparity is between the 2?

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          • eaterfan
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            #2165
            Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post

            Why does Brugler have Ferguson rated 98 and Taylor 33?
            I wonder where the disparity is between the 2?
            Brugler falls in love with athletes too much. It's why he had Walker over Hutchinson. The problem with this is that even when the developmental athletes he likes pan out, you get one or two good seasons and then they are FAs.

            I like Taylor more than Ferguson, but I'm just not a Brugler guy.

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            • electricgold
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              #2166
              Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post

              Why does Brugler have Ferguson rated 98 and Taylor 33?
              I wonder where the disparity is between the 2?
              Because the NFL is a popularity contest and there are a lot of ******** involved as well and there are a lot of things that go into ranking players higher than others before they have ever played one down the NFL!

              The last I checked Brugler has never drafted, played or coached one second in the nfl! He's just a writer like all the rest of them. Just because Brugler makes a proclamation it doesn't make it the gospel truth.

              I rank Taylor a little higher than Ferguson too, but to me Herbert could make both solid WEAPONS and TE's and get the best out of either. Not a 100% sure either TE's ultimately turns into something special! We soon shall see tho....

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              • Jack Burton
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                #2167
                Chris Simms has Taylor rated as a 1st round pick. According to some here you have to be a player and have been drafted into the NFL to have an opinion on a player….lol


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                • electricgold
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                  #2168
                  Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post
                  Chris Simms has Taylor rated as a 1st round pick. According to some here you have to be a player and have been drafted into the NFL to have an opinion on a player….lol

                  CHRIS SIMMS? You lost me on that one! Where did he rank Zach Wilson and Kellon Mond??? ONE thing is certain there are rarely absolutes in drafting players! One thing Bobby Beathard told me on a call was, you just never know how these players are going to pan out before you draft them, and after they get paid! You just never really know.

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                  • Eurobolt
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                    #2169
                    Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post

                    Why does Brugler have Ferguson rated 98 and Taylor 33?
                    I wonder where the disparity is between the 2?
                    For example Drop rate - Ferguson over 10% while something like Taylor 1.5%.

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                    • Riverwalk
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                      #2170
                      Originally posted by electricgold View Post

                      Taylor may be an exceptional receiving TE and as good a prospect as any in the draft! Unfortunately that's not good enough these days. I know Kyle Pitts was an incredible receiving TE coming out of college, however he never proved to be anything but an average all around TE...

                      The following is what was listed by scouts as Mason Taylor's weaknesses...

                      The concerns about Taylor's blocking show up repeatedly on tape, particularly when asked to handle defensive ends one-on-one. His high pad level and technical flaws limit his effectiveness at the point of attack, often getting driven back into the backfield against power rushers. Yet his work from the slot and wing positions hints at untapped potential - he shows natural feel for angles and timing when blocking in space. Smart coordinators will need to protect him early in his career, using him primarily in passing situations while his blocking technique catches up to his receiving skills.
                      SCOUTING REPORT: WEAKNESSES
                      • Struggles to anchor against power rushers - gets walked back into the pocket when trying to pass protect
                      • Needs significant technical refinement as a run blocker - plays too high and gets overwhelmed at point of attack
                      • Limited experience as an in-line tight end - primarily operated from slot or wing alignments
                      • Must develop more sophisticated route-running tempo to avoid telegraphing breaks against NFL defensive backs
                      • Doesn't show the explosive burst needed to consistently separate from athletic NFL safeties in man coverage
                      Drafting a pro TE has always been tricky, you just never know who's going to pan out to being a franchise TE! Who Knows Mason could be the best TE in the draft, or he may be nothing special. We will soon find out!
                      Taylor is only 20 years old. Warren is 22.

                      I think his Blocking will improve quite a bit by the time he is Warren’s age. Wouldn’t worry about it as he’s a big boy!

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                      • Jack Burton
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                        #2171
                        Originally posted by electricgold View Post

                        CHRIS SIMMS? You lost me on that one! Where did he rank Zach Wilson and Kellon Mond??? ONE thing is certain there are rarely absolutes in drafting players! One thing Bobby Beathard told me on a call was, you just never know how these players are going to pan out before you draft them, and after they get paid! You just never really know.
                        Oh, but you qualified the requirement of being an NFL player who was drafted as the only person who is allowed to have an opinion on a player in your last laughable post.
                        Now you’re whining about your demand being met. Lol

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                        • dmac_bolt
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                          #2172
                          Originally posted by electricgold View Post
                          Terrance Ferguson had more yards, more TD's, averaged more yards per catch, and ran a faster 40! Mason had 12 more catches last season. They are pretty much the exact same size! They both had 7 drops in their college career.

                          I would be fine if we drafted either TE, I'm pretty sure either could develop into a solid weapon for Herbert!

                          Mason Taylor: YDS: 546 TD: 2 AVG: 9.9 Terrance Ferguson: YDS: 591 TD: 3 AVG: 13.7

                          However if we could draft a Booker, Grant, Egbuka, in the first, and a Royals, Henderson, or Higgins in the 2nd we could still possibly get Ferguson in the 3rd I think Id prefer that, than drafting Taylor higher, because his father's name...
                          4.63 vs 4.65? lol, thats splitting hairs quite finely.

                          I like Fergie, I have read some question his drop rate earlier in his college career but he seemed to sort it in 2024. Tayler has mega-hands, really good. I prefer Taylor, but I think they would have to nab him by #28 and I'm always skeptical of the trade-down expectations popular here. Fergie in the 3rd would be a great s********, word.

                          Egbuka in 1 for skill - dude is the most pro-ready WR in the class (jmo) and life is short. forget the slot vs X - he can line up anywhere and he can beat press cover at the LOS. Or go fast with Golden but I think he will have some growing pains and take time to develop. Higgins in Rd2 would be a tasty treat, but he won't last to 55 so it requires another patented Joe Jump. I would rather have Henderson, he is special but I think also will be gone before 55 (Jump, Joe, Jump!).

                          I still am hunching big time that JH2 will take a big body at 22. no idea why but its gnawing at me every time I get excited about some tasty hot sizzle ... BookerBros have worn me down and brought me around (almost), and I've longed for a dominant NT for well over a decade.

                          I'm thinking JH2 take BPA among the small set of key positions at 22 (OG, NT, WR, TE), then trade up in Rd2 to get a second coveted higher value piece. Sacrifice some Day 3 roster filler picks, those guys can be signed after the draft and we just build that depth a bit slower. Playmakers matter in the NFL, we need more playmakers - whether its trench or ball skill or both. How about:

                          Booker
                          Henderson (Trade up)
                          Ferguson
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