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  • gzubeck
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    #2125
    Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post

    The longer this day goes the more I think Taylor might just be the pick at 22.
    This is an extremely deep class at DT, RB and fairly deep at EDGE. You can get top tier starters all over this draft. Why F around when you can get a franchise TE who’s 20 years old and ready to go especially in the red zone day one and you’ll have Herbert’s go to guy for a decade?
    And Taylor ain’t making it out of the 1st. He’s 20. He put up monster numbers at the combine and now again at his pro day. He has hands of gold and only has improved each year on a team that focuses on throwing to WRs until last year when they had terrible QB play.

    Look at the back end of the draft, folks.
    LAR, BALT, WASH, KC and PHIL.
    They all have aging TE’s on their last legs, TE’s who are getting old and the focus of trade rumors or they need a TE. Taylor’s not getting past all these teams.
    I would laugh really hard if 4 Te's go in the first round with one of those teams taking Fannin at the back end there. There you have it folks...4 TE in the first round. LOL!
    Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....

    "Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh

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    • Eurobolt
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      #2126
      I would not mind trade down and pick Donovan Jackson and Mason Taylor.

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      • electricgold
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        #2127
        Originally posted by Eurobolt View Post
        I would not mind trade down and pick Donovan Jackson and Mason Taylor.
        I like Mason Taylor and he looks like he could be a solid TE, but in the first I would much rather roll the dice with Loveland if we're talking a TE with the 1st round pick or Booker, and with the 2nd round pick go for either a RB like Henderson or WR like Royals or Higgins or if one of the top DE's is there or OG's!

        ...And since we have Conk and Dissley now maybe get Ferguson in the 3rd or 4th or even Jackson Hawes with Conk and Dissley if we go even later for a TE!

        Conk makes our need for a TE less paramount than it had been.

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        • gzubeck
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          #2128
          Kid is sandwiched around premium NFL talent and what it takes to be a pro...

          Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....

          "Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh

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          • 21&500
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            #2129
            Originally posted by gzubeck View Post
            Kid is sandwiched around premium NFL talent and what it takes to be a pro...


            Imagine how much more insufferable and biased Joy Taylor will be towards Herbert if Taylor drops a single pass. Ouch.
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            • Boltnut
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              #2130
              Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post

              But you can get a Tuli in the 2nd.
              You can’t get a Taylor in the 2nd. He will be long gone.
              You can get starting DTs into the late 4th of this draft.
              Correct, but I can get pass-rushing production (Green or Ezeiruaka) in the 1st round (16+sacks each).
              Then pass catching production (Fanin) in the 2nd round (117/1555/10).

              Agree on DT in the 4th round.
              Protect the QB
              Run the ball
              Play great defense

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              • gzubeck
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                #2131
                Originally posted by 21&500 View Post


                Imagine how much more insufferable and biased Joy Taylor will be towards Herbert if Taylor drops a single pass. Ouch.
                ?????? His aunt....
                Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....

                "Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh

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                • gzubeck
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                  #2132
                  Originally posted by 21&500 View Post


                  Imagine how much more insufferable and biased Joy Taylor will be towards Herbert if Taylor drops a single pass. Ouch.
                  Either that or we become her favorite team. LOL!
                  Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....

                  "Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh

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                  • Bolt4Knob
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                    #2133
                    Originally posted by gzubeck View Post

                    Either that or we become her favorite team. LOL!
                    she is terrible at her job
                    is she still on with Acho
                    that show was terrible as they were just SO bad

                    that said, if her nephew is on the Chargers as they didn't get Colston Loveland, I would be happy with the pick

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                    • Leslie Grossman
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                      #2134
                      The more tape I watch and look at the measurements gotta think Loveland is going before Warren.
                      The pundits have hyped Warren up because of his versatility and splash highlights.
                      To me Loveland is faster, the better route runner, and more elusive after the catch. Think he’ll be closer to Travis Kelce than Mike Gesicki.

                      Not expecting the linemen drop the way so many of these mocks are predicting. Wont be surprised if Warren is there for us at 22, also won’t be surprised if Mason Taylor ends up having the better career.
                      Last edited by Leslie Grossman; 04-14-2025, 06:13 PM.

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                      • dmac_bolt
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                        #2135
                        Originally posted by Boltnut View Post

                        No need to sell me on Mason Taylor. He caught my attention way back during his Freshman year.
                        But the argument is about @#22... or even late 1st-round with a trade-back. He'll be very good... but probably not #22-good.

                        There are many prospects @#22 that will have greater impact.
                        Booker, Grant, Nolan...
                        The edge-rusher prospects...
                        Edge rusher position gets really really thin after the 2025 season (with Mack/Dupree free agents @season's end).
                        I'm not a proponent of WR @#22. Not a fan of WR prospects at the top. But I like the depth @WR later on in this draft.
                        If he's very good, he is 22-good. or, thats how those of us in Club Taylor view it, I get the counter argument and you mention good players. I still think your list is more likely JH2's idea of 22 pick. I'll leave the "greater impact" to the style judges - beats the hell out of me. A typical NT will post maybe 30-ish tackles, a handful of TFL, maybe a couple sacks. How do we "impact assess" that vs a TE that makes 60+ catches for 800+ yards and 5+ TDs? idunno - its all eye of the beholder.

                        I watch Taylor's tape, I watch Loveland, I watch Warren. I wish I had the expertise to be a pro scout because I don't know what I'm supposed to be seeing in Warren and Loveland's tape that I don't see in Taylor (and more)?

                        Taylor is bigger than Loveland, he's faster than both, runs as good or better routes (imo), his hands are just as good or better, he's as good a blocker as Warren, better H than Loveland ... what is it? Fortunately there are smarter scouts here at TPB and every year I learn a little bit more about intricacies and nuances ...

                        ... (>>> someone can jump in and explain why or how W & L are better right here / thanks! _______________________)
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                        • electricgold
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                          #2136
                          Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                          If he's very good, he is 22-good. or, thats how those of us in Club Taylor view it, I get the counter argument and you mention good players. I still think your list is more likely JH2's idea of 22 pick. I'll leave the "greater impact" to the style judges - beats the hell out of me. A typical NT will post maybe 30-ish tackles, a handful of TFL, maybe a couple sacks. How do we "impact assess" that vs a TE that makes 60+ catches for 800+ yards and 5+ TDs? idunno - its all eye of the beholder.

                          I watch Taylor's tape, I watch Loveland, I watch Warren. I wish I had the expertise to be a pro scout because I don't know what I'm supposed to be seeing in Warren and Loveland's tape that I don't see in Taylor (and more)?

                          Taylor is bigger than Loveland, he's faster than both, runs as good or better routes (imo), his hands are just as good or better, he's as good a blocker as Warren, better H than Loveland ... what is it? Fortunately there are smarter scouts here at TPB and every year I learn a little bit more about intricacies and nuances ...

                          ... (>>> someone can jump in and explain why or how W & L are better right here / thanks! _______________________)
                          Taylor may be an exceptional receiving TE and as good a prospect as any in the draft! Unfortunately that's not good enough these days. I know Kyle Pitts was an incredible receiving TE coming out of college, however he never proved to be anything but an average all around TE...

                          The following is what was listed by scouts as Mason Taylor's weaknesses...

                          The concerns about Taylor's blocking show up repeatedly on tape, particularly when asked to handle defensive ends one-on-one. His high pad level and technical flaws limit his effectiveness at the point of attack, often getting driven back into the backfield against power rushers. Yet his work from the slot and wing positions hints at untapped potential - he shows natural feel for angles and timing when blocking in space. Smart coordinators will need to protect him early in his career, using him primarily in passing situations while his blocking technique catches up to his receiving skills.
                          SCOUTING REPORT: WEAKNESSES
                          • Struggles to anchor against power rushers - gets walked back into the pocket when trying to pass protect
                          • Needs significant technical refinement as a run blocker - plays too high and gets overwhelmed at point of attack
                          • Limited experience as an in-line tight end - primarily operated from slot or wing alignments
                          • Must develop more sophisticated route-running tempo to avoid telegraphing breaks against NFL defensive backs
                          • Doesn't show the explosive burst needed to consistently separate from athletic NFL safeties in man coverage
                          Drafting a pro TE has always been tricky, you just never know who's going to pan out to being a franchise TE! Who Knows Mason could be the best TE in the draft, or he may be nothing special. We will soon find out!

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