2025 Official Super Duper Mock Draft Thread - Opinions On Mocks | Pundit Mocks

[Lone Bolt]

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fire away and let me know if it’s financially feasible

Solid...cept im with Boltjolt....Mattison mid...

If Im nitpicking, pass on Zabel if you want a center...just take Wilson or Majors, the best passpro center in the draft...

[zbeaster]

Looks like they like the Kid from Iowa. They got us getting the kid from Iowa. The Running Back.

In what round? I really like Kaleb Johnson.

[wu-dai clan]

@ #22 might just be a good spot for a trade.

Teams may want to trade up/down there with this QB class.

[beachcomber]

which one are you ??

There 4 types of scouts.

1: Poor scout. Knows nothing. Is totally uneducated.

2: The Picker scout. He picks at one thing and can’t let it go to his own detriment. For example, maybe someone runs a very fast 40 time but they’re not actually good at football. The picker scout looks at that one thing and makes the incorrect determination because of it.

3: The Production scout. Everything is numbers based. They look at their chart and make decisions based on it. This method often lacks accountability and is a big reason why most baseball teams fail today. Numbers determine everything they do and the numbers very much do lie. There is always context within every number.

4: The Projection scout. These people are the best at forecasting the future. It’s important to remember that then is then and now is now. These are the only types of people who are your worth your time if you’re trying to educate yourself. It’s also important to remember with any player, we’re looking at snapshots in moment of time. The people who can thrive in these areas usually have the best ability to see what’s coming.

I would categorize all four of the examples I listed out in the video as type one (poor scouts) and not worth your time. Most of those you see on TV fall into that category.

[beachcomber]

for you Jeanty/round one RB die hards....

Why Drafting Ashton Jeanty Should Be Considered A Non-Starter

Okay, I’ll admit the headline is a bit clickbaity but you’re here so mission accomplished. Let me just get this out of the way now. Drafting Ashton Jeanty based on his current draft day cost should be considered a non-starter. Is that better?

If you didn’t watch the video and just skipped to the end… Let’s just make one thing very, very, very clear. For Jeanty to be currently worth his NFL Draft status, he needs to be a first-ballot Hall of Famer. If Jeanty is not a generational prospect, people do understand that the GM that drafts him is an insane person who needs to be fired immediately.

If you disagree, you just have no clue how this stuff works and it’s not really arguable. I don’t hate the Boise State running back. He’s a real player. I just don’t think he’s better than TreVeyon Henderson and if there isn’t a sizeable gap it’s a total suicide mission to turn the card in for Jeanty.

I encourage you to watch the video because we go through an entire NFL Draft simulator to explain exactly why you cannot draft Jeanty at the current draft price. If you take anything from this video, it’s that you need to understand that if you pick a player in the top ten, they have to be a blue chip Hall of Fame-worthy type of player. If that isn’t the case… trade down.

[beachcomber]

and personally, and jftr.... think there are only three really good players outta this draft.... the two CBs and Grant.

[eaterfan]

There 4 types of scouts.

1: Poor scout. Knows nothing. Is totally uneducated.

2: The Picker scout. He picks at one thing and can’t let it go to his own detriment. For example, maybe someone runs a very fast 40 time but they’re not actually good at football. The picker scout looks at that one thing and makes the incorrect determination because of it.

3: The Production scout. Everything is numbers based. They look at their chart and make decisions based on it. This method often lacks accountability and is a big reason why most baseball teams fail today. Numbers determine everything they do and the numbers very much do lie. There is always context within every number.

4: The Projection scout. These people are the best at forecasting the future. It’s important to remember that then is then and now is now. These are the only types of people who are your worth your time if you’re trying to educate yourself. It’s also important to remember with any player, we’re looking at snapshots in moment of time. The people who can thrive in these areas usually have the best ability to see what’s coming.

I would categorize all four of the examples I listed out in the video as type one (poor scouts) and not worth your time. Most of those you see on TV fall into that category.

I think this analysis either misses a key category or glosses over the downside of category 4. That is the traits scout. They ignore production and attribute everything to context. Just like the Production scout, this type also lacks accountability. A player busts? They weren't used correctly. They didn't work hard enough to maximize their ability. It's how you end up picking Walker over Hutchinson or taking Tyree Wilson or Darius Hayward-Bay in the first round.

Obviously, projection is important and so is production. The last 3 methods all have their strengths and weaknesses. The key is some sort of balance of all three while also realizing which group has the best results.

[beachcomber]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings/

fun one to take a look at....

round one

looking @measurables, think you have to put Loveland 'n Grant in the lead here, and maybe you can give Booker 'n Egbuka maybes as well ?? Donovan Jackson is sitting there @41, Tuimoloau @43, Savaiinaea @44, and.... in this situation, would prolly look @'em as reaches ??

round two

Omarion is sitting there @53, and given what Joe did in gettin' after Ladd round two last year, Hampton is def in the mix here.... Kaleb Johnson is def within range as well @60, and.... don't know if you leave Fanin off the board here due to his measurables, and can you make the same argument against TreVeyon, as he doesn't come w/the heft that Omarion/Kaleb come with, and.... dude is an injury concern ??

Mike Green and Matthew Golden are still on the board here, but you might raise the same measurables flag against them regardless of that some pundits might think this an absurdly good get @this point, and.... (not necessarily a shared opinion, btw)

do think Arroyo qualifies in terms of measurables, and Jordan Burch is also a man of intrigue, albeit might not be front row center in the way of consideration here ?? Mason Taylor passes the measurables test, as does S Kevin Winston, albeit the all of these guys just mentioned might be better considered @86, and hopin' that they might last 'til then ??

round three

think Josaiah Stewart leads off the conversation here, and.... how do feel 'bout his measurables ?? and way too high for Grey Zabel by my take, and.... not interested in Gillotte nor Kennard neither.

am lookin' square @Jared Wilson here, and.... guys like Ollie Gordon, RJ Harvey nor Terrance Ferguson aren't gonna get me off him neither.

guys that might give me pause are Oronde Gadsden II and Howard Cross III, and.... if Loveland is not on your roster yet, does TE take precedence, or do you hold firm on beef before gaze!!es ??

round four

back to the measurables, and given that most don't consider his as ideal, but personal suspicion is that his are right on @CB, as Jaylin Smith checks in @5'11" 190 lbs, and.... not sure he's fourth round worthy, but it ain't coz of his measurables, @least in my book anyways....

Jayden Higgins has the measurables, and might look a little bit more attractive in the fourth as opposed to the second, @least for the some of us ?? Nazir might be early as well, but like the aforementioned, do think he passes the measurables test.... do any of these guys hold fourth round value for you ??

the two guys that do pop here, @least on the value scale, and perhaps even on the explosive playmaker scale, are Savion Williams and Cam Skattebo, and both w/decent if not indecent measurables.

round five

personally think some might dismiss APR due to his measurables, and.... he might offer value as a pass rushing specialist ??

two guys that do pass the measurables threshold are Luke Kandra and Jah Joyner, and might be hellah good/tempting out here in the fifth, and.... Devin Neal might not have the same injury risk that TreVeyon comes with, and.... is hellah better value here than in the third, and.... we got two picks here, and not just the one.

Raheim and DJ Giddens are lookin' better than not here as well, and.... think you can pretty much safely say that an RB might make a hellah lotta sense here.... round five.

round six

Cody Simon ??

[beachcomber]

if the draft fell like the aforementioned/above, think this would be my lean....

1) Grant
2) TreVeyon
3) Jared Wilson
4) Oronde Gadsden * if I could find someone to take our first pick in the sixth and our seventh, in a trade up
5) Jah Joyner, Devin Neal

[DerwinBosa]

which one are you ??

That is pretty funny.

I'm someone who will always prioritize both sides of the line after getting the franchise quarterback. I'll always root for the best player available, no matter the position, but unless we need a quarterback my hope in every draft is that there will be a dominant pass-rusher, or defensive tackle, or absolute mauler of an offensive lineman when we're picking in the first round. Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the case this year.

[Topcat]

Here's my REALISTIC MOCK, based on who will most realistically be there when we pick:

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[sonorajim]

That is pretty funny.

I'm someone who will always prioritize both sides of the line after getting the franchise quarterback. I'll always root for the best player available, no matter the position, but unless we need a quarterback my hope in every draft is that there will be a dominant pass-rusher, or defensive tackle, or absolute mauler of an offensive lineman when we're picking in the first round. Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the case this year.

Thanks to WUD for calling him to our attention, OG Armond Membou appears to be a dominant RG prospect. Check him out.
I favor BPA also and hope for an intersection with PON. Edge may be the strongest position in this draft, DL ain't too shabby. Check out D Jeremiah's top 50. DJ is usually close to what the pros think.https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jere...t-rankings-1-0