Official 2019 Pre Draft Discussion

[Lone Bolt]

Those draft charts aren't the Bible. I'm sure a 3rd would do it being near the bottom of the first round. There are more than one draft chart out there and teams have their own.

That linked draft chart is the old Jimmy Johnson draft chart from 20-25 years ago well before rookie cap slotting.

Agreed...the trade compensation is always fluid, depending on the teams dealing, how much one team wants to trade up, and how much another wants to get out of their slot with some compensation.

Wilkins would be tempting to trade up for...I wouldn't be pissed about it. Really like the kid...but still, I also see a very talented FS prospect being there at 28, regardless of how the runs on the other position go...Thompson, Adderley, Gardner-Johnson, and my personal favorite Taylor Rapp...I have a feeling at least one of those guys is gonna be there at 28...so I'm gonna say no to trading up...stay the course, and without giving up draft capitol, we are gonna net a very good prospect at a PON...that's my prediction, anyway.

[Boltjolt]

I had Wilkins at the top of my mock...until his stock kept rising and I no longer thought he would last to #28...according to the draft value chart, to move up from #28 to #21, it would cost about 150 points...we would have to give up our #3 and #4 this year...not sure I'd make that move, but it would be tempting...

http://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp

Those draft charts aren't the Bible. I'm sure a 3rd would do it being near the bottom of the first round. There are more than one draft chart out there and teams have their own.

That linked draft chart is the old Jimmy Johnson chart from years ago.

[Topcat]

this mock is a TopCat special.... w/us trading up to 21 w/Seattle and selecting Wilkins (w/Dex going to the Pats)

http://www.mockout.com/2019-nfl-mock-draft/

I had Wilkins at the top of my mock...until his stock kept rising and I no longer thought he would last to #28...according to the draft value chart, to move up from #28 to #21, it would cost about 150 points...we would have to give up our #3 and #4 this year...not sure I'd make that move, but it would be tempting...

http://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp

[Boltjolt]

TT has drafted 3 DT's in his tenure with the Chargers: Ryan Geathers, Darius Philon, and Justin Jones. None of these guys are typical "explosive 3-techs". If anything, they're run-stoppers that are 1-tech/3-tech tweeners. He brought in Brandon Mebane... who is your typical 1-tech. Mebane has a 2-year contract... with possible out in 2020.

And Jeffery Simmons is a guy that I think TT will stay away from (character/injury concerns).

If you go back and look at Gus Bradley's time in Seattle, you'll find that after one year, Bradley brought in Alan Branch (350 lbs) to play the 1-tech. He also promoted Red Bryant (325 lbs) to play DE. Gus has no problem putting big-bodied guys on his D-line. Once those two were in place, Seattle's defense improved dramatically.

I'd agree with the charactor part but that was in highschool and been a model citizen since. Depends on interviews. I wouldn't rule it out.
Not worried about injury concerns. He drafted Verrett.

Branch bounced around. He started 3 games in AZ in 4 years. Didn't start his first year in NE.
I think he had good players all over that defense and it flourished in spite of Branch. If he were that good he wouldn't have bounced around.
I mean he was ok. Game changer? No

[Lone Bolt]

Absolutely NO to Jeffrey Simmons...he was caught on video pummeling a woman on the ground, covering her head, while a crowd of people(children included) looked on. Not no, but fuck no! We don't want trash like that on this team.

[Boltnut]

Plenty of times Bosa and Ingram had one on ones and didn't win.
Clemson had four very good DL and in college ball they were just better than most of the OL they faced. It is not going to get easier for Lawrence in the NFL. Just don't see him as a value in round 1 with who else could be there.

It all depends on who is there... I agree. Who are the guys that will be there that you see as better picks than D. Lawrence? I would probably put OT Andre Dillard and OT Greg Little (but I think both will be gone).

For the record, I don't think Jerry Tillery is better than Lawrence. Way too inconsistent for my taste. And while I like Dre'mont Jones' abilities as a pass rusher, he's a liability in the run game. He'll be a situational player whose speed will be a bit negated by better NFL pass blockers.

[beachcomber]

this mock is a TopCat special.... w/us trading up to 21 w/Seattle and selecting Wilkins (w/Dex going to the Pats)

http://www.mockout.com/2019-nfl-mock-draft/

[Boltnut]

From what little i've seen, Dexter Lawrence doesn't strike me as a Tom Telesco top pick: TT seems to prefer explosive 3 techs there. I don't think Lawrence will pile up sacks in the NFL.

I'm still open to picking up Jeffrey Simmons and waiting for him to return to health. Admittedly, he's not the explosive type TT covets.

TT has drafted 3 DT's in his tenure with the Chargers: Ryan Geathers, Darius Philon, and Justin Jones. None of these guys are typical "explosive 3-techs". If anything, they're run-stoppers that are 1-tech/3-tech tweeners. He brought in Brandon Mebane... who is your typical 1-tech. Mebane has a 2-year contract... with possible out in 2020.

And Jeffery Simmons is a guy that I think TT will stay away from (character/injury concerns).

If you go back and look at Gus Bradley's time in Seattle, you'll find that after one year, Bradley brought in Alan Branch (350 lbs) to play the 1-tech. He also promoted Red Bryant (325 lbs) to play DE. Gus has no problem putting big-bodied guys on his D-line. Once those two were in place, Seattle's defense improved dramatically.