2020 NFL Draft Discussion

[Boltgang74]

Actually one of the guys on this forum shared recently the stat of how bad Bolts WRs were at getting seperation.2nd to worst in the league or something shitty like thst.Soooo I gotta false on that one.

[SYB]

Hmmmm.Reminds me of my favorite Charger of all time.

Haha. Except he had guys who could get open last year. :stirringshit::biggrin:

[SYB]

Sat 2 years (drafted 2004; starts in year 2006 the LT year)

That's right. Sometimes the old memory banks fail ya.

[Boltgang74]

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"I think that a lot of Love's bad decisions, were basically his only option. He played with guys who couldn't get open, so you either force throws or take sacks. I think that his 2018 season is more of who he is as a player."

Hmmmm.Reminds me of my favorite Chargers of all time.

[Boltgang74]

I may be wrong but I think there are 5/6 QB's in this draft that will be good in the NFL In addition the the top three, Eason, Love,
Fromm and Hurtz could all develop into good QB's.

I think most all of this years crop of QB's success will be almost totally dependant on who they play for and what situation they are put into.

[rikardo]

Rivers was 4th overall and sat a year, and that worked out OK.

Sat 2 years (drafted 2004; starts in year 2006 the LT year)

[SYB]

True but ive seen that fail many times.
Arm strength is nice and seems everybody wants a QB with a gun but the best QBs in history didnt have guns.. I assume Love is seen as more than he is because of his arm but he makes bad decisions.

Im not using his intelligents as a negative, im just saying the wonderlic dont mean anything when to comes to football....whether they had a high or low score. He obviously can process math and other problems on paper well but he has seconds to process a play and he isnt fast enough at that. Good thing is he can sit a year.

On the other hand Tua had a 19 (to Herberts 39) and seems to read defenses faster which is reflected in the stats shown (and in the video breakdown of Herbert) for throws in the 5 to 18 yard range that are off target.....which i mentioned many times during the season.

Im not saying he is a bust...just needs time and hopefully be coached up to get better. Ive said i think he can. But is he worth number 6? I dont think so, but will he be there at 37?

I think that a lot of Love's bad decisions, were basically his only option. He played with guys who couldn't get open, so you either force throws or take sacks. I think that his 2018 season is more of who he is as a player.

Gotcha on the intelligence. I agree the Wonderlic doesn't mean shit. That 13 didn't seem to hinder Lamar much from earning MVP in just year 2.

And not going to disagree with Tua having the leg up in processing at this point. But let's not dismiss the fact that he's had much better coaching and got to throw to 3 1st round WR's, that were more times than not, completely open. Had Herbert played at a top SEC school, there's no doubt in my mind that he'd be further along in his development.

If the coaching staff thinks he can be a franchise QB after sitting a year, I have zero issue with them taking him @ 6 TBH. I mean, Rivers was 4th overall and sat a year, and that worked out OK. :whistlin:

[Boltjolt]

I don't necessarily disagree. Although I don't think that he's as far off as some of y'all are acting. And unlike the couple of issues he does have, you can't "coach up" size, arm strength and mobility. And I do find it rather funny that you're using his intelligence as a negative.

True but ive seen that fail many times.
Arm strength is nice and seems everybody wants a QB with a gun but the best QBs in history didnt have guns.. I assume Love is seen as more than he is because of his arm but he makes bad decisions.

Im not using his intelligents as a negative, im just saying the wonderlic dont mean anything when to comes to football....whether they had a high or low score. He obviously can process math and other problems on paper well but he has seconds to process a play and he isnt fast enough at that. Good thing is he can sit a year.

On the other hand Tua had a 19 (to Herberts 39) and seems to read defenses faster which is reflected in the stats shown (and in the video breakdown of Herbert) for throws in the 5 to 18 yard range that are off target.....which i mentioned many times during the season.

Im not saying he is a bust...just needs time and hopefully be coached up to get better. Ive said i think he can. But is he worth number 6? I dont think so, but will he be there at 37?

[chargeroo]

I may be wrong but I think there are 5/6 QB's in this draft that will be good in the NFL In addition the the top three, Eason, Love,
Fromm and Hurtz could all develop into good QB's.

[SYB]

3 years, 36 million. Id be happy with that. Even a little more. But not with throwing a high pick at him too.

He's currently due $13.6 for this season. I highly doubt he takes any less than that.

I do like him as a player, but not at the price he's likely seeking.

[SYB]

It's his head. He is a smart dude and that's why I say the wonderlic means nothing for football.

He doesn't process fast enough when to throw a WR open or into a zone or read a defense. Things don't get slower in the NFL.
He is going to take some time. If Eason had Herberts wheels I'd rather have him.

I don't necessarily disagree. Although I don't think that he's as far off as some of y'all are acting. And unlike the couple of issues he does have, you can't "coach up" size, arm strength and mobility. And I do find it rather funny that you're using his intelligence as a negative.

[SYB]

If that’s all it took,
If pigs could fly,
We’d have 12 SB trophies
From that Leaf guy.

Sometimes it is.:shrug:

He has a better arm and is more athletic than either Burrow or Tua.:shrug:

And Leaf was a head case and everyone knew it except for our beloved Bolts.:shrug: