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Hmmmm....I think he fell in love with the combine and pro days and forgot to look at the tape. Perrmian is not a top 10 player IMO. I would rather have taken anything but Funchess for us in the second. To me he is a tweener in the NFL. I love Abdullah's explosion, but I prefer Duke Johnson by a wide margin. Abdullah has very small hands and fumbles way too much....it could very well get worse against NFL defenders. I also don't see Chris Conley as a second rounder, even the last pick, and I highly value Wrs.
**** Diggs at 79?? I am looking at his "drafting" and am glad he is not in charge of our draft! LolLast edited by Panamamike; 04-17-2015, 10:31 AM.
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I like that he has us with a DT in the first.. but if we pass up a RB in the 2nd round (In this case, either because Tevin is gone or we decide we'd rather not have Duke or Ameer since they're available) I'd rather take an OLineman over a WR.
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4 of top 10 and 6 of top 18 are WRs. How much value do they bring to today's game?
8 of top 18 are front 7 defenders, gotta have quality up front.
That's 14 of 18 in two areas.
And look at the RBs fall into round 3.Last edited by Formula 21; 04-17-2015, 08:41 AM.
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Mel Kiper Jr., Football analyst
You already have the full analysis version of the 'Grade: A' draft, but this will allow you to go through the selection process pick by pick. Here again are the rules...
The ground rules
1. At each spot, I make a pick in the best interest of only the team with the pick. I won't pass on a player at No. 5 just because I like how he fits better at No. 7 or No. 10.
2. There are no trades. I note team needs, but not all picks are specifically to hit a need -- same as the draft.
3. This is NOT A PROJECTION. It's more a look at how I currently value players at each slot.
With that in mind, here are the picks:
Round 1Pick Team Position Player School
1. Tampa Bay QB Jameis Winston Florida St.
2. Tennessee QB Marcus Mariota Oregon
3. Jacksonville DL Leonard Williams USC
4. Oakland WR Amari Cooper Alabama
5. Washington OLB Dante Fowler Florida
6. New York Jets WR Kevin White West Virginia
7. Chicago WR Breshad Perriman Central Florida
8. Atlanta OLB Shane Ray Missouri
9. New York Giants OT Brandon Scherff Iowa
10. St. Louis WR DeVante Parker Louisville
11. Minnesota CB Trae Waynes Michigan St.
12. Cleveland DT Danny Shelton Washington
13. New Orleans OLB Randy Gregory Nebraska
14. Miami WR Nelson Agholor USC
15. San Francisco DE Arik Armstead Oregon
16. Houston OLB Vic Beasley Clemson
17. San Diego DT Malcom Brown Texas
18. Kansas City WR Jaelen Strong Arizona St.
19. Cleveland RB Todd Gurley Georgia
20. Philadelphia S Landon Collins Alabama
21. Cincinnati DE Bud Dupree Kentucky
22. Pittsburgh CB Kevin Johnson Wake Forest
23. Detroit OT La'El Collins LSU
24. Arizona RB Melvin Gordon Wisconsin
25. Carolina OT Andrus Peat Stanford
26. Baltimore CB Marcus Peters Washington
27. Dallas CB Byron Jones UConn
28. Denver C Cameron Erving Florida St.
29. Indianapolis OT Ereck Flowers Miami (FL)
30. Green Bay CB Jalen Collins LSU
31. New Orleans WR Phillip Dorsett Miami (FL)
32. New England DT Eddie Goldman Florida St.
Round 2Pick Team Position Player School
33. Tennessee OT Jake Fisher Oregon
34. Tampa Bay OT D.J. Humphries Florida
35. Oakland DE Preston Smith Mississippi St.
36. Jacksonville RB Tevin Coleman Indiana
37. New York Jets OLB Eli Harold Virginia
38. Washington OT Cedric Ogbuehi Texas A&M
39. Chicago DE Owamagbe Odighizuwa UCLA
40. New York Giants S Eric Rowe Utah
41. St. Louis OT T.J. Clemmings Pitt
42. Atlanta G Laken Tomlinson Duke
43. Cleveland WR Devin Smith Ohio St.
44. New Orleans G Tre Jackson Florida St.
45. Minnesota WR Dorial Green-Beckham Missouri
46. San Francisco LB Benardrick McKinney Mississippi St.
47. Miami S Quinten Rollins Miami (Ohio)
48. San Diego WR Devin Funchess Michigan
49. Kansas City LB Stephone Anthony Clemson
50. Buffalo QB Bryce Petty Baylor
51. Houston LB Denzel Perryman Miami (FL)
52. Philadelphia WR Tyler Lockett Kansas St.
53. Cincinnati OT Donovan Smith Penn St.
54. Detroit DT Jordan Phillips Oklahoma
55. Arizona LB Eric Kendricks UCLA
56. Pittsburgh OLB Hau'Oli Kikaha Washington
57. Carolina WR Sammie Coates Auburn
58. Baltimore TE Maxx Williams Minnesota
59. Denver DT Carl Davis Iowa
60. Dallas DT Michael Bennett Ohio St.
61. Indianapolis DE Danielle Hunter LSU
62. Green Bay TE Clive Walford Miami (FL)
63. Seattle CB Ronald Darby Florida St.
64. New England WR Chris Conley Georgia
Round 3Pick Team Position Player School
65. Tampa Bay DE Mario Edwards Florida St.
66. Tennessee DE Trey Flowers Arkansas
67. Jacksonville CB P.J. Williams Florida St.
68. Oakland LB Paul Dawson TCU
69. Washington G A.J. Cann South Carolina
70. New York Jets QB Garrett Grayson Colorado St.
71. Chicago DE Henry Anderson Stanford
72. St. Louis CB D'Joun Smith Florida Atlantic
73. Atlanta WR Justin Hardy East Carolina
74. New York Giants S/LB Shaq Thompson Washington
75. New Orleans CB Senquez Golson Ole Miss
76. Minnesota RB Jay Ajayi Boise St.
77. Cleveland QB Brett Hundley UCLA
78. New Orleans OT Daryl Williams Oklahoma
79. San Francisco WR Stefon Diggs Maryland
80. Kansas City S Damarious Randall Arizona St.
81. Buffalo G Ali Marpet Hobart
82. Houston CB Ifo Ekpre-Olomu Oregon
83. San Diego RB Ameer Abdullah Nebraska
84. Philadelphia G Ty Sambrailo Colorado St.
85. Cincinnati WR Tre McBride William & Mary
86. Arizona OLB Nate Orchard Utah
87. Pittsburgh S Derron Smith Fresno St.
88. Detroit RB Duke Johnson Miami (FL)
89. Carolina S James Sample Louisville
90. Baltimore WR Dezmin Lewis Central Arkansas
91. Dallas RB Jeremy Langford Michigan St.
92. Denver LB Lorenzo Mauldin Louisville
93. Indianapolis CB Josh Shaw USC
94. Green Bay DT Xavier Cooper Washington St.
95. Seattle C Hroniss Grasu Oregon
96. New England RB David Johnson Northern Iowa (Comp pick)
97. New England CB Alex Carter Stanford (Comp pick)
98. Kansas City WR Rashad Greene Florida St. (Comp pick)
99. Cincinnati TE Jeff Heuerman Ohio St. (Comp pick)
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Brugler's combine 'snubs' that could be drafted.
QUARTERBACK
Chris Bonner, Colorado State-Pueblo (6-6, 231, 5.12): A developmental version of Mike Glennon, Bonner needs time before he's ready for NFL snaps, but he shows promise that several other passers in the 2015 quarterback class do not. He isn't quite NFL ready, but Bonner, who led the ThunderWolves to the school's first national championship in 2014, is a developmental passer and possible late-round pick.
RUNNING BACK
Malcolm Agnew, Southern Illinois (5-9, 202, 4.61): An Oregon State transfer, Agnew runs light with strong plant-and-go quickness to scamper away from defenders, but lacks much of a power element and has a frame that looks near maxed out. Although his injury history is a concerning trend, Agnew is a team-first type of player and looks to contribute any way he can, including improvement as a receiver and blocker.
FULLBACK/H-BACK
Aaron Ripkowski, Oklahoma (6-1, 238, 4.70): With only 13 offensive touches and one touchdown as a senior, Ripkowski isn't a dynamic ballcarrier who stresses the defense. But he does have to be accounted for with his blocking ability both in pass protection and in the run game. Ripkowski has draftable talent for a team looking for a throwback option at fullback who will also play on special teams.
Jimmay Mundine, Kansas (6-1, 237, 4.66): A prospect who looks more like a thick wide receiver than traditional fullback, Mundine relied on natural athleticism most of his career and little else, but the light bulb turned on for him before his senior season, improving his intensity and workout routine. While still unpolished in areas, he has the raw athleticism and versatile skill set worth developing as a "move" tight end or H-back.
WIDE RECEIVER
Jordan Taylor, Rice (6-4, 209, 4.52): A high school quarterback, Taylor made the move to receiver shortly after arriving at Rice and developed into one of the most productive offensive players in school history. Although his lack of NFL strength and technique stands out, Taylor is a 110-percenter who can stick as a No. 4/5 possession receiver with his height and ball skills in the mold of Kris Durham.
Deontay Greenberry, Houston (6-1, 211, 4.52): The highest high school recruit in Houston history, Greenberry is an intriguing athlete at his size with the athletic ball skills to make incredible receptions, but consistency is the issue and makes his future tough to project. The mental aspect of the game isn't there yet, but his size/speed skill set and potential are intriguing, similar to former Washington State star Marquess Wilson.
Jordan Leslie, BYU (6-2, 204, 4.44): Leslie started his career at UTEP and led the team in receiving as a sophomore and junior, but with the new coaching staff transitioning to a run-first approach, he transferred to BYU in 2014 and finished second on the team in receiving. Described by his coaches as the "smartest and most competitive" player on the team, Leslie has the quick hands and impressive height/speed combination that NFL teams seek.
Ricky Collins, Texas A&M-Commerce (6-0, 198, 4.53): Due to academic issues and situations away from football, Collins had only one year of starting experience at the college level, but he made it count with 71 catches for 1,187 yards and 14 touchdowns in 2014. He has the base traits for the position to develop into a quality contributor if he stays on the straight and narrow, including talent to push for a starting job toward the end of Year 1, in the mold of Kendall Wright.
Shane Wynn, Indiana (5-6, 167, 4.34): Not many survive at the NFL level with his dimensions, but Wynn has the speed that could earn him a draft pick. He led the Hoosiers in receiving in 2014 (56 catches, 708 yards, three touchdowns), but his impact in the NFL will need to come on special teams after he left Indiana with a 8.4 yards in his career on punt returns, including one touchdown.
Tyrell Williams, Western Oregon (6-3, 204, 4.43): If you don't keep tabs on Western Oregon prospects, that's understandable as the Wolves have produced only three draft picks in program history and none higher than the fifth round. But Williams has a chance to hear his name called late due to his tall, wiry frame and speed to take the top off a defense.
TIGHT END
James O'Shaughnessy, Illinois State (6-4, 248, 4.68): A three-year starter for the Redbirds, O'Shaughnessy is an athletic mover for the position with good length to pluck the ball away from his body. The low production numbers (67 catches in 49 career games) can be deceiving due to Illinois State's offense, but he also makes plays on special teams, something that will appeal to NFL coaches.
OFFENSIVE TACKLE
Kendall Lamm, Appalachian State (6-5, 302, 5.27): A four-year starter, Lamm was a mainstay for Appalachian State's offense in recent years, averaging only one sack allowed the past three seasons. His traits don't scream NFL prospect, but he gets the job done with adequate lateral range and the balance to mirror rushers on the edges. Lamm should get better as his technique improves, making him a viable developmental option.
Doniel Gambrell, Notre Dame College (6-5, 305, 5.70): It took a winding road, but Gambrell eventually ended up at Notre Dame College in 2011, which proved to be a perfect marriage because the program was only in year two of existence and "Tree" wanted to further his education and play football within proximity of his family. Gambrell is an ideal practice squad candidate, but he is a success story regardless of where his football career goes from here.
GUARD/CENTER
Shaq Mason, Georgia Tech (6-2, 304, 4.99): It's easy to overlook Mason due to Georgia Tech's multiple option offense and a high volume of cut blocks, which leads to blockers diving and ending up on the ground by nature of the scheme. But the Yellow Jackets' offense also features athletic linemen, allowing Mason to show his natural movement skills, displaying tight end-like athleticism and body control. He will be one of the highest-drafted combine snubs on draft weekend.
Antoine Everett, McNeese State (6-2, 328, 5.32): A college left tackle who projects best inside at the next level, Everett put himself on the NFL radar the past two seasons as a dominant FCS-level blocker, earning All-American recognition as a senior. He is a balanced, athletic mover with the feet to recover and position himself, although he does need mechanical work with his hands and coil to better use his length.
DEFENSIVE END/EDGE RUSHER
Shaq Riddick, West Virginia (6-6, 244, 4.64): After three seasons at FCS-level Gardner-Webb, Riddick transferred to West Virginia for his final season of eligibility and although he saw limited playing time over the first half of his senior season, Riddick settled in later in the year. Although he is a one-trick pony and doesn't enter the NFL with ideal polish, Riddick is an intriguing athlete with natural pass rush traits.
Ray Drew, Georgia (6-4, 265, 4.83): Arriving at Georgia as one of the top recruits in the country, Drew wasn't able to live up to the hype, but he proved to be a valuable role player in the Bulldogs' multiple defensive fronts. Although they have different playing styles, he might follow a similar path as former teammate DeAngelo Tyson (seventh-round NFL role lineman) and be a better pro than collegiate player.
Deion Barnes, Penn State (6-4, 257, 4.95): Barnes shows raw pass rush ability with his natural athleticism in pursuit, but he lacks the physical mentality to overwhelm at the point of attack and match power with power. Although his tweener traits make him a questionable scheme fit to be a regular contributor in the NFL, his best fit is likely as a rotational edge rusher, standing up in a 3-4 formation.
Andrew Hudson, Washington (6-2, 250, 4.86): After a productive sophomore season at Washington, Hudson found himself in the coaches' doghouse and finished the 2013 season with only two tackles. He planned to transfer or leave early for the NFL Draft, but after the coaching change last offseason, Hudson changed his mind, connecting with head coach Chris Petersen and the new staff and finishing second on the team in sacks (12.5).
DEFENSIVE TACKLE
Xavier Williams, Northern Iowa (6-2, 325, 5.18): A player who showed consistent improvement each season, Williams has developed into an NFL prospect through hard work and effort, getting every ounce of talent out of his skills. He lined up as mostly a one-technique and shaved nose tackle in college, but is scheme versatile and might project best as a three-technique in a 4-3 or five-technique in a 3-4.
Kaleb Eulls, Mississippi State (6-3, 305, 5.14): A high school quarterback, Eulls has a stout lower body to anchor and plug run lanes, but has limited range and doesn't offer much as a pass rusher. He doesn't stand out on film and he lacks any traits that truly separate him, but Eulls has the physical and mental makeup to survive at the bottom of a roster as a late rounder.
David Irving, Iowa State (6-7, 273, 4.84): Irving was a rotational defensive lineman at Iowa State and started eight games his first three seasons, but was dismissed from the program (April 2014) after multiple arrests. He has a rudimentary understanding of hand use and leverage, but uses his length (87 3/4-inch wingspan) well at the line of scrimmage (eight passes defended, three blocked kicks) and surges off the snap like a sprinter with brute power.
Kristjan Sokoli, Buffalo (6-5, 290, 4.86): A two-year starter, Sokoli immigrated to the United States from Albania with his family in 2000, took up football and earned a scholarship to Buffalo. A tireless, blue collar worker, he doesn't play with ideal functional strength, but he played out of position at nose guard in college and shows the movement skills and size dimensions that are worth developing.
Quayshawne Buckley, Idaho (6-2, 302, 4.95): A four-year starter, Buckley was a late bloomer and didn't play football until high school, focusing on basketball in his youth. Although the technical side of the game isn't quite there yet, Buckley is an athletic mover and thoughtful disruptor for his size, projecting as a NFL rotational three-technique with upside.
LINEBACKER
Deiontrez Mount, Louisville (6-5, 249, 4.66): A size/athleticism prospect with versatility, Mount has clear physical skills, but he might be a player without a position at the next level. He's impressive on the hoof with a long, athletic build and foot quickness to move well along with natural length and strength to take on blocks, although he lacks the functional power to routinely disengage and sift through the trash. Mount projects best as a sub-package player.
Junior Sylvestre, Toledo (6-0, 233, 4.53): After two seasons as a part-time linebacker, Sylvestre started every game the past two seasons at MIKE linebacker, finishing with 100-plus tackles and first-team All-MAC honors as a junior and senior. His locator is constantly on the fritz, forcing him to wait on the play to unfold, but the speed and natural athleticism are intriguing for special teams.
Gabe Martin, Bowling Green (6-2, 234, 4.61): Similar to Sylvestre, Martin is a productive linebacker from the MAC conference with average size dimensions but excellent range and overall play speed. He does struggle to work through the crowd with limited power, but the nonstop motor and competitive streak run on overdrive, making him worth developing.
CORNERBACK
Randall Evans, Kansas State (6-0, 195, 4.44): A three-year starter, Evans led the Wildcats in 2014 with four interceptions and 14 passes defended, earning first-team All-Big 12 honors. He needs to tweak his pedal and transitional technique, but the speed, height and length are what NFL scouts and coaches covet at the position, including the competitive drive to succeed as a former walk-on.
Tray Walker, Texas Southern (6-2, 187, 4.54): Although his speed is best categorized as average, Walker is tall with long arms and enjoys bump-and-run coverage to attack receivers and keep them uncomfortable on the outside. He is more of an athlete at this point in his development and doesn't have a grasp of proper fundamentals, but that's something NFL coaches think they can correct.
Darryl Roberts, Marshall (5-11, 187, 4.38): While he needs a lot of work with his technique, awareness and functional strength, Roberts has enough of the base traits for the cornerback position to grab the attention of NFL teams. And his outstanding workout at Marshall's pro day (4.38 40-yard dash, 39-inch vertical, 6.66 3-cone drill) will put him on some team's draft boards.
SAFETY
Erick Dargan, Oregon (5-11, 211, 4.72): Although he didn't become a full-time starter until his senior season, Dargan took advantage of the opportunity, leading the Pac-12 in interceptions and the Ducks in total tackles. His limitations in coverage might keep him from starting in the NFL, but Dargan has the ball skills and field physicality/speed to be a core special teams member and developmental option.
Brian Blechen, Utah (6-2, 226, 4.77): A four-year starter, Blechen started every game he played in and finished top three on the team in tackles each season. He is tough as nails and plays like he's 20 pounds heavier as a tackler and ballhawk and was responsible for 16 career takeaways (nine interceptions, seven forced fumbles). Blechen is an ambitious free spirit on the football field, which is both a curse and blessing.
Cedric Thompson, Minnesota (6-0, 211, 4.46): Thompson became a starter at safety as a sophomore and has been an underrated member of the Minnesota defense the past three seasons, recording 221 tackles, 10 passes defended and five interceptions over 32 starts. He has terrific athleticism to open his hips and run with backs and tight ends, covering a lot of ground vs. both the run and the pass.
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Originally posted by Stinky Wizzleteats+ View PostSan Diego Chargers
QB – Marcus Mariota, Oregon
QB – Bryce Petty, Baylor
QB – Garrett Grayson, Colorado State
WR – DeVante Parker, Louisville
RB – Tevin Coleman, Indiana
OT – D.J. Humphries, Florida
OT – Chaz Green, Florida
LB – Randy Gregory, Nebraska
LB – Za’Darius Smith, Kentucky
CB – Bryce Callahan, Rice
Chargers...
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San Diego Chargers
QB – Marcus Mariota, Oregon
QB – Bryce Petty, Baylor
QB – Garrett Grayson, Colorado State
WR – DeVante Parker, Louisville
RB – Tevin Coleman, Indiana
OT – D.J. Humphries, Florida
OT – Chaz Green, Florida
LB – Randy Gregory, Nebraska
LB – Za’Darius Smith, Kentucky
CB – Bryce Callahan, Rice
Chargers...
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Tennessee Titans
QB – Jameis Winston, Florida State
QB – Marcus Mariota, Oregon
WR – Amari Cooper, Alabama
WR – DeVante Parker, Louisville
WR – Dorial Green-Beckham, Oklahoma
DE – Leonard Williams, USC
DE – Shane Ray, Missouri
DE – Tavaris Barnes, Clemson
DE – Dante Folwer, Florida
DE – Vic Beasley, Clemson
DE – Danielle Hunter, LSU
LB – Stephone Anthony, Clemson
LB – Deiontrez Mount, Louisville
CB – Trae Waynes, Michigan State
CB – Ronald Darby, Florida State
CB – Bryce Callahan, Rice
Titans privet visits...
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So why would be he Titans look a Gregory at 2??? This makes me think we the Rivers rumor is a smokescreen for Philly or the Browns...
Titans are the latest to bring Randy Gregory for a visit
Posted by Darin Gantt on April 16, 2015, 5:02 PM EDT

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The Titans continue to sniff around guys who you might not think of as the second pick in the 2015 NFL Draft, but will definitely be available a bit later in the round.
Via Jim Wyatt of the Tennesseean comes word that Nebraska pass-rusher Randy Gregory will be visiting Nashville.
The Titans have also visited with most of the top guys at that position (Dante Fowler, Vic Beasley and Shane Ray), and only his combine test for marijuana keeps Gregory from being in that mix.
Granted, this is the time of year for smokescreens, and with each team able to bring in 30 guys (and no one has that many picks), theres’s plenty of that going around.
But after bringing in second-tier wide receiver DeVante Parker, the Titans are certainly doing the due diligence (and is there any other kind of diligence?) on guys who may be available in the teens.
Or at least they’re trying to create that impression.Last edited by Stinky Wizzleteats+; 04-16-2015, 03:37 PM.
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Winston sued for sexual assault!
Jameis Winston sued by sexual assault accuser
Posted by Josh Alper on April 16, 2015, 5:05 PM EDT

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Jameis Winston recently expressed his negative feelings about the focus on off-field incidents while discussing his viability as an NFL quarterback, but it doesn’t look like that focus is going to be going away anytime soon.
Matt Baker of the Tampa Bay Times reports that Erica Kinsman has filed a lawsuit related to her allegation that Winston raped her in 2012. Kinsman went public with her allegations earlier this year and accused Winston of raping her after she had a drink she believes included something other than alcohol at a bar in Tallahassee.
The lawsuit makes claims of sexual battery, assault, false imprisonment and “intentional infliction of emotional distress arising out of forcible rape.” Kinsman’s attorney John Clune released a statement about the suit.
“Today, a very brave young woman filed her lawsuit against Jameis Winston for the sexual battery that she reported to police in December 2012.,” the statement reads. “Over the past two years, this survivor of sexual violence has had to endure a delinquent police investigation, a hostile FSU athletic department, and Mr. Winston’s bullying lawyer. But the more these forces sought to silence her, the more determined she has become to step forward and hold Jameis Winston accountable for his actions. With the support of her family, she is prepared for this fight and for the counterclaims and the smear campaigns that will surely follow.”
Winston was not charged by the Tallahassee police department and was also cleared of violating the Florida State University code of conduct.
This could cause him to drop...
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Finding good fa talent means finding good players who are underappreciated under utilized or disgrubtaled. These come out of teams after a HC and or GM turnover. Look at the Oven and Lisimore trades. Get them before they hit FA.
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