Brandon Staley, Former Rams DC - New Chargers Head Coach

[SYB]

You have no clue. And you are just making stuff up.

RIvers didn't leave on bad terms. He was 1 year away from retirement. You can Not move forward with an aging QB who is considering retirement. That was a Charger front office decision. And a mutual decision between Rivers and Chargers.
RIvers just retired. Wise choice by front office to move on and draft Herbert.

Wiz had success when he was OC of Big Ben and Rivers. And when he had Kurt Warner. 3 hall of fame QBs. But he didn't do so well when he didn't have hall of famers at QB. And Wiz career HC regular season record is 48-71. He hasn't worked in NFL since he was fired. Meanwhile Lynn just got hired to be OC for Lions. Lynn is 33-31as HC.

Lynn may have had a few blunders with clock management. But he knows the game of football at the NFL level better than you and everyone on the TPB who bashes him.

Just watch. He is actually in a spot to get another chance to be a HC. If they draft a QB at #7 and that QB has great success with Lynn as OC. That is all it take for a NFL team to say. His resume is a winning record as HC. And when he went to Chargers Rivers started playing great ball again. PR was a turnover machine the few years prior to Lynn hire. Herbert earns OROY under Lynn. That is on his resume.
I'm not predicting he will get interview for HC job again. I'm just saying. If they draft a QB and it works out well. That is how Lynn gets back into conversation as a HC candidate.

Hall of famer Terrel Owens says the Stewart bad hire take is a garbage take by fans who are clueless. The Chargers special team has been awful for over 10 years. Norv, McCoy, Lynn. None seemed to get it fixed. And that points more to a roster issue and front office failures.

My immediate take upon seeing TO's thoughts on Chargers fan's issue with the Stewart hire.

:wtfc:

[Topcat]

I was getting more of a Seth Mcfarlane vibe, at least facially.
Every time he had a grin on his face, was expecting to hear Stewie or Peter Griffin.

For looks, Staley is kind of like a young Gary Sinise...

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[powderblueboy]

Article by Detroit Lions beat writer Kyle Meinke on the downfall of Matt Patricia in Detroit:

Matt Patricia had a toxic relationship with his locker room, period. He tried to clean it up over time through player acquisition -- which is part of the reason he targeted so many ex-Patriots -- as well as his own personal evolution as a head coach. He did get better over time, softened some, listened to players better, started showing up on time for his own meetings, stopped trying to embarrass players in front of the team, you know, that kind of thing. But the damage he did that first season -- and especially that first training camp, before he ever coached a down in Detroit -- was considerable. And it was among the biggest reasons he ultimately failed.


He came in believing the Lions were kind of trash under Jim Caldwell. He had personal respect for Caldwell as a man and leader, but also believed those teams were too soft to play real football. Where many people saw a Lions team coming off three winning seasons in four years and believed they were close, Matt Patricia believed they just kind of sucked, eked out some meaningless games with smoke and mirrors, and that he basically had to start over with teaching the game of football.

He told players as much that first offseason too.

Imagine coming off three winning seasons in four years, the best four-year stretch in the modern history of your franchise, and doing so while playing for a coach you loved -- Jim Caldwell was absolutely adored by his players -- then hearing a first-time coach walk through the door and tell you to your face that you suck and have no idea what the bleep you’re doing.

That’s bad.

It got worse.

Brash doesn’t even begin to cover Patricia’s comportment when he arrived in Detroit. He mocked players. He condescended players. He tried to embarrass players. He ran players into the ground on the field, and then mother(bleeped) them when they screwed up. Dirty mouths are as old as those white lines too, but players felt Patricia was going out of his way to belittle them. In one episode that has been recounted by multiple people, Patricia called one of the team’s biggest stars a “(bleeping C-word)” on the practice field. Many guys were upset because that player was also one of Detroit’s most respected leaders.

In one famous episode, Darius Slay walked off the field after a joint practice with the New York Giants and posted a photo of himself working with Odell Beckham almost immediately. Then he walked into a team meeting, and Patricia threw the Instagram post on the screen and tried to embarrass Slay in front of the entire team.

“Stop sucking this man’s (expletive),” Patricia said.

Patricia’s relationship with Slay never recovered, and Slay ultimately forced his way out of Detroit by making contract demands he knew the club wouldn’t meet.

There are a lot of reasons the Patriot Way experiment didn’t work in Detroit, but this -- Patricia’s toxic relationship with players, especially early, which fractured the locker room and led to some of Detroit’s best players leaving town -- is chief among them.

[powderblueboy]

For looks, Staley is kind of like a young Gary Sinise...

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A more innocent, angelic version of Gary Sinise. At bare minimum, he's not Matt Patricia.

[powderblueboy]

You have no clue. And you are just making stuff up.

RIvers didn't leave on bad terms. He was 1 year away from retirement. You can Not move forward with an aging QB who is considering retirement. That was a Charger front office decision. And a mutual decision between Rivers and Chargers.
RIvers just retired. Wise choice by front office to move on and draft Herbert.

Wiz had success when he was OC of Big Ben and Rivers. And when he had Kurt Warner. 3 hall of fame QBs. But he didn't do so well when he didn't have hall of famers at QB. And Wiz career HC regular season record is 48-71. He hasn't worked in NFL since he was fired. Meanwhile Lynn just got hired to be OC for Lions. Lynn is 33-31as HC.

Lynn may have had a few blunders with clock management. But he knows the game of football at the NFL level better than you and everyone on the TPB who bashes him.

Just watch. He is actually in a spot to get another chance to be a HC. If they draft a QB at #7 and that QB has great success with Lynn as OC. That is all it take for a NFL team to say. His resume is a winning record as HC. And when he went to Chargers Rivers started playing great ball again. PR was a turnover machine the few years prior to Lynn hire. Herbert earns OROY under Lynn. That is on his resume.
I'm not predicting he will get interview for HC job again. I'm just saying. If they draft a QB and it works out well. That is how Lynn gets back into conversation as a HC candidate.

Hall of famer Terrel Owens says the Stewart bad hire take is a garbage take by fans who are clueless. The Chargers special team has been awful for over 10 years. Norv, McCoy, Lynn. None seemed to get it fixed. And that points more to a roster issue and front office failures.

Anthony Lynn is a good guy to have on your staff, just not at the head coach position. If Lynn didn't accept the Charger job, Shanahan possibly would have offered him the OC position in San Francisco.

[Critty]

I am very happy with Staley, we agree on it - positive things.

Let's move forward and close Lynn chapter once and for good.

His Chargers chapter is closed.

I'm rooting for him in his next Chapter.
And I'll push back when people bash him.
He will always be the guy the kept me a fan during the move to LA. If they went to LA and flopped immediately. I may have stopped watching and caring. They went to playoff and won in Baltimore. He brought character and toughness. And won more games than he lost in the NFL. I was happy to see Spanos thank him like they did.

[Topcat]

Article by Detroit Lions beat writer Kyle Meinke on the downfall of Matt Patricia in Detroit:

Matt Patricia had a toxic relationship with his locker room, period. He tried to clean it up over time through player acquisition -- which is part of the reason he targeted so many ex-Patriots -- as well as his own personal evolution as a head coach. He did get better over time, softened some, listened to players better, started showing up on time for his own meetings, stopped trying to embarrass players in front of the team, you know, that kind of thing. But the damage he did that first season -- and especially that first training camp, before he ever coached a down in Detroit -- was considerable. And it was among the biggest reasons he ultimately failed.


He came in believing the Lions were kind of trash under Jim Caldwell. He had personal respect for Caldwell as a man and leader, but also believed those teams were too soft to play real football. Where many people saw a Lions team coming off three winning seasons in four years and believed they were close, Matt Patricia believed they just kind of sucked, eked out some meaningless games with smoke and mirrors, and that he basically had to start over with teaching the game of football.

He told players as much that first offseason too.

Imagine coming off three winning seasons in four years, the best four-year stretch in the modern history of your franchise, and doing so while playing for a coach you loved -- Jim Caldwell was absolutely adored by his players -- then hearing a first-time coach walk through the door and tell you to your face that you suck and have no idea what the bleep you’re doing.

That’s bad.

It got worse.

Brash doesn’t even begin to cover Patricia’s comportment when he arrived in Detroit. He mocked players. He condescended players. He tried to embarrass players. He ran players into the ground on the field, and then mother(bleeped) them when they screwed up. Dirty mouths are as old as those white lines too, but players felt Patricia was going out of his way to belittle them. In one episode that has been recounted by multiple people, Patricia called one of the team’s biggest stars a “(bleeping C-word)” on the practice field. Many guys were upset because that player was also one of Detroit’s most respected leaders.

In one famous episode, Darius Slay walked off the field after a joint practice with the New York Giants and posted a photo of himself working with Odell Beckham almost immediately. Then he walked into a team meeting, and Patricia threw the Instagram post on the screen and tried to embarrass Slay in front of the entire team.

“Stop sucking this man’s (expletive),” Patricia said.

Patricia’s relationship with Slay never recovered, and Slay ultimately forced his way out of Detroit by making contract demands he knew the club wouldn’t meet.

There are a lot of reasons the Patriot Way experiment didn’t work in Detroit, but this -- Patricia’s toxic relationship with players, especially early, which fractured the locker room and led to some of Detroit’s best players leaving town -- is chief among them.

The Patriot Way? Gotta wonder, does Belicheat say this kind of stuff to his players?

[Xenos]

Anthony Lynn is a good guy to have on your staff, just not at the head coach position. If Lynn didn't accept the Charger job, Shanahan possibly would have offered him the OC position in San Francisco.

I wish Shanahan had offered him the OC position. Then we could have gotten McDaniel

[Critty]

You are right Stewart was an amazing hire, just ask TO. Our lying eyes td us the ST were bad but they were really the best in the upside down world. Stewart was so incredible he should have been promoted to HC.

And yes Lynn did put the blame on Rivers for his offense failure. He did not call him out by name but kept bringing up the more QB lame excuse. Lynn ended up being a small man who blamed everyone but himself for his failure to coach and understand the basics of a clock.

You've got a twisted perspective. And I'm going to call the small man who plays blame game comment a projection of yourself. Good luck with that.

I guess you were Not around during Norv days when Chargers had #1 offense and #1 defense and the historically worst Special teams and missed playoffs.

Special teams has been a Chargers issue for multiple HCs in a row. Might want to look at front office at this point.

[Boltjolt]

For looks, Staley is kind of like a young Gary Sinise...

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Nope, I'm liking the Seth McFarland comparison at least in that pic.

[FoutsFan]

You've got a twisted perspective. And I'm going to call the small man who plays blame game comment a projection of yourself. Good luck with that.

I guess you were Not around during Norv days when Chargers had #1 offense and #1 defense and the historically worst Special teams and missed playoffs.

Special teams has been a Chargers issue for multiple HCs in a row. Might want to look at front office at this point.

I had respect for Lynn but the longer he coached and more of his flaws were revealed, he blamed others and he became smaller and smaller as time went by.

Regarding Stewart the past is just a red herring for excuse makers. He was not coaching the players from the Norv days or any other era. He was not even coaching players from the Lynn era, he was just collecting a paycheck. The fact that you are defending Stewart as some ST savant is a bad mark on your judgment. Stewart sucked, everyone but you and Lynn could see it and the past is irrelevant.

[eaterfan]

For looks, Staley is kind of like a young Gary Sinise...

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I think he looks more like Bill Hader