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  • richpjr
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    Originally posted by QSmokey View Post
    Yet another analysis of "The Trade". I would be pissed if the Chargers did what this guy thinks is fair trade value:



    So we have a #2 and #17, then don't draft again until pick #83? Also, we have no 4th-round pick. Two 1st-round picks and a 3rd-round pick. And no Rivers. BAD trade.
    That is a horrible trade. I thought I read somewhere that the Chargers would expect multiple picks from the Titans if anything was going to happen. But - it is liar's month so who knows. The draft can't get here soon enough!

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    • Boltx
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      Originally posted by richpjr View Post
      Big Ben set the market rate for QB contracts and is averaging $20 million a year for the next 5 years (could add more with incentives) so that bar has been set. But I agree people are thinking with their hearts and not their heads about both Rivers and the LA market.
      Is that his actual yearly cap hit?

      Regardless, it's a huge number to pay a guy that would clearly not be happy. Not worth the bad publicity by itself, you could argue. Then what do you do in 2016? Just a bad situation to be in unless you are convinced you're going to win a Super Bowl in 2015-2016 and couldn't care less.

      And when you consider the other option of Rivers just retiring after 2015 and us being left completely and utterly empty-handed....you can easily see how trading him now is not necessarily the end of the world.

      Tell me, short of him just willingly staying in SD/LA and signing another extension, do the Chargers win in any of the other proposed scenarios? No, we come out sorely behind. I like this approach of trying to be proactive instead of just crossing our fingers that he'll stay or that the team will stay in SD. The world doesn't revolve around Philip Rivers and his 4-5 playoff record. And I don't want to be left holding our dicks if there is even a decent chance he is no longer on the team after 2015.
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      • Faded blues
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        Prediction

        Eagles trade for number one pick and draft marriotta

        And Winston drops like a rock.

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        • Faded blues
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          Rivers stays home

          Chargers draft hundley third round

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          • SDFan
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            Originally posted by sandiego17 View Post
            I thought about the smokescreen scenario, but doesn't seem plausible. Bolts pick 17th, not 3rd or 5th, how does Mariotta help in any smokescreen scenario? Not rhetorical, any ideas?
            feigning interest in Mariotta (along with the idea we could trade up to #2) has to concern any team that is seriously interested in Mariotta and costs us nothing. Not just for now, but on draft day as well. From what I gathered so far, at least TB, PHI, Buff and Cleve are looking to draft QBs this year and the most interest is in Winston & Mariotta with TB likely to take Winston #1 overall if predictions hold true. That would leave Mariotta for at least 3 teams that want him.

            But what if the Chargers REALLY want either Gordon or Gurley and are worried both will be gone before we pick at #17? Why not help stir up the scramble for QBs ahead of us in hopes this helps the RBs fall further down and increase our chances to get 1 without having to trade up? I'm not sold on the idea TT is even considering trading Rivers this year, but I think it helps our cause if all the other teams THINK it is seriously being considered and we are targeting Mariotta.
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            • bonehead
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              Originally posted by SDfan View Post
              feigning interest in Mariotta (along with the idea we could trade up to #2) has to concern any team that is seriously interested in Mariotta and costs us nothing. Not just for now, but on draft day as well. From what I gathered so far, at least TB, PHI, Buff and Cleve are looking to draft QBs this year and the most interest is in Winston & Mariotta with TB likely to take Winston #1 overall if predictions hold true. That would leave Mariotta for at least 3 teams that want him.

              But what if the Chargers REALLY want either Gordon or Gurley and are worried both will be gone before we pick at #17? Why not help stir up the scramble for QBs ahead of us in hopes this helps the RBs fall further down and increase our chances to get 1 without having to trade up? I'm not sold on the idea TT is even considering trading Rivers this year, but I think it helps our cause if all the other teams THINK it is seriously being considered and we are targeting Mariotta.

              TT=shit stirrer
              Forget it Donny you're out of your element

              Shut the fuck up Donny

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              • Stinky Wizzleteats+
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                Its teams like Dallas and Arizona we do not want trading up in front of us for a RB. The less look interested in a RB at 17 the better if we want Gordon or Gurley.
                Go Rivers!

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                • Wheels
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                  Originally posted by QSmokey View Post
                  Yet another analysis of "The Trade". I would be pissed if the Chargers did what this guy thinks is fair trade value:



                  So we have a #2 and #17, then don't draft again until pick #83? Also, we have no 4th-round pick. Two 1st-round picks and a 3rd-round pick. And no Rivers. BAD trade.
                  That's absurd. IMO, the floor is the #2 and #33 from Tennessee, and at most a late round pick given back by the Chargers.

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                  • richpjr
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                    Originally posted by SDfan View Post
                    feigning interest in Mariotta (along with the idea we could trade up to #2) has to concern any team that is seriously interested in Mariotta and costs us nothing. Not just for now, but on draft day as well. From what I gathered so far, at least TB, PHI, Buff and Cleve are looking to draft QBs this year and the most interest is in Winston & Mariotta with TB likely to take Winston #1 overall if predictions hold true. That would leave Mariotta for at least 3 teams that want him.

                    But what if the Chargers REALLY want either Gordon or Gurley and are worried both will be gone before we pick at #17? Why not help stir up the scramble for QBs ahead of us in hopes this helps the RBs fall further down and increase our chances to get 1 without having to trade up? I'm not sold on the idea TT is even considering trading Rivers this year, but I think it helps our cause if all the other teams THINK it is seriously being considered and we are targeting Mariotta.
                    That would be one elaborate ploy to spend that much time and money to fake out the rest of the league so we could draft a RB.

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                    • richpjr
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                      • sandiego17
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                        Originally posted by richpjr View Post
                        That would be one elaborate ploy to spend that much time and money to fake out the rest of the league so we could draft a RB.
                        Exactly, for a guy who is going to go way ahead of 17 anyway? Just to much distance from the Tennessee pick the Bolts pick, IMO.

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                        • Antonio's Gates
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                          make a mental note of anyone that thinks trading rivers for mariota is a good idea. then eliminate those people from your brain.

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