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  • Faded blues
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    Weddl e and rivers are San Diego dudes.

    I think this is a way to let the organization know where they stand.

    It's time to end this stadium shit

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    • Maverick
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      Originally posted by Mister Hoarse View Post
      Best.
      Offseason.
      Ever.

      Can we get Norv back too?
      Don't stop there....

      How about D.Boston & W.Righty?

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      • SDFan
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        Originally posted by BlazingBolt View Post
        Rivers is one of the best players in the NFL and is under team control for 3 more years and very possibly more if he signs a contract eventually. A rookie you get control of for 5 and it is a long long long shot that a replacement QB will be as good as Rives. QB is the hardest roster position to fill.

        So if the trade is Rivers and 17 for 2, you are trading 3 years of top QB play from a guy who never misses a snap for 5 years of a crap shoot with a young QB just to move up 15 spots. I would be more concerned about the next 3 years before I worry about the 2 after that.
        dude, check yourself. We've had Rivers starting 9 years already- how many Super Bowls? How many AFC Championships? IN 9 YEARS! You can't possibly guarantee #1 he's here more than 1 more year and #2 He wins us a Super Bowl this year. His last 2 years under NOrv were horrible. Your making a prediction of "3 more years of top QB play", but its looking more and more like the reality is 1 more year where he is uneasy mentally with all the external shit, and then NOTHING.

        Given that likely scenario of 1 mediocre year and another 7-9 win season, how can you not at least consider trading the guy for a couple high picks while they still can? And NO I'm not endorsing trading up with Tenn and taking Mariota OR Winston. Neither is worth top draft slots and neither is a "Franchise" QB ready to lead an NFL team like Luck was IMO. Pretty sure that trade left us KEEPING our #17 pick and getting Tenn #2 pick this year + another high- but whatever.
        Life is too short to drink cheap beer :beer:

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          Originally posted by Maverick View Post
          Don't stop there....

          How about D.Boston & W.Righty?
          And the cherry on top - Ryan Leaf.

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          • SDFan
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            Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
            Well i dont agree with much of this. First, why cant we get a good running game here real soon? All we need is a OL upgrade and draft a good RB. They are in this draft. So far the OL is getting upgraded and im sure they arent done.
            Shanahan hasnt done a fucking thing since Elway retired and once he was more in charge of personel, he stunk at drafting too. Shanahan imo isnt a key to what Elway did. They got lucky with a RB which gave them a great running game and that was the difference.

            Manning has been to two SBs. Won one and got blown oout in another. He has had many one and dones so thouogh he is a great QB, he is pretty much a choker in the playoffs.

            How do you know anything about Rivers back? He didnt need surgery so without a Dr coming out and saying he has a degerative problem, ....which i dont know if one has, but i havent seen it, how do you know? Asside from that he should be fine. If there has been more about it, do tell.

            I just dont see anything you have said that should say we cant win a SB with Rivers. I dont see why we cant do the things personel wise we will do with Mariota as our QB as opposed to Rivers. Rivers is by far and away a better QB than Mariota.

            Im pretty sure our Front office has a much better grasp on this situtaion and Rivers back than you, i or anyone else in here who is speculating. If his back is what you make it out to be, they wouldnt be dumb enough to want to offer him a extention that would make him retire a Bolt.
            after the season, both Rivers and the team admitted he had bulging/ruptured disc(s) in his lower back and the fear during the season was there would be nerve problems in his legs if they couldn't manage it well enough. Go back and search it out for yourself, you'll see it was discussed. We talked about it quite a bit on this board as myself and other have similar disc problems. Its guaranteed that ANY active male adult in their 30s will have arthritis- even if it hasn't been diagnosed and giving you problems- yet. Its also guaranteed gravity takes its toll on your skeleton with age and Arthritis does not get better, it only gets worse with age. Put all that together and Rivers (like many of us) has a degenerative back condition that will not get better (can only be managed) and he has a high risk occupation for hurting it again and if it starts affecting his peripheral nerves to his legs- his career is probably done.

            maybe our resident board Drs can weigh in on this, or at least the skeletal Arthritis part so you don't have to just take my word for it.
            Life is too short to drink cheap beer :beer:

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            • QSmokey
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              Originally posted by SDfan View Post
              after the season, both Rivers and the team admitted he had bulging/ruptured disc(s) in his lower back and the fear during the season was there would be nerve problems in his legs if they couldn't manage it well enough. Go back and search it out for yourself, you'll see it was discussed. We talked about it quite a bit on this board as myself and other have similar disc problems. Its guaranteed that ANY active male adult in their 30s will have arthritis- even if it hasn't been diagnosed and giving you problems- yet. Its also guaranteed gravity takes its toll on your skeleton with age and Arthritis does not get better, it only gets worse with age. Put all that together and Rivers (like many of us) has a degenerative back condition that will not get better (can only be managed) and he has a high risk occupation for hurting it again and if it starts affecting his peripheral nerves to his legs- his career is probably done.

              maybe our resident board Drs can weigh in on this, or at least the skeletal Arthritis part so you don't have to just take my word for it.
              I can certainly attest that getting old sux. It's a battle to stay ahead of the Grim Reaper. He eventually wins in the end, of course.

              And, really, Rivers is no dummy. He's 31, set for life financially (even with 24 kids ), and doesn't need any more money. Oh, I understand the "he's a fierce competitor" thing; and I'm SURE he'd love to get a Ring (who wouldn't?), but...at what cost? 2014 had to be one of his toughest years, physically, if for no other reason than he *IS* getting older. I also think that he's more than well versed on the long-term effects of the harsh nature of his chosen profession and gotta believe that he wants to be viable in his old age (especially with all those children).

              I think all three guys (Rivers, Weddle, Gates) will be on the team in '15. After that...

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              • SDFan
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                Life is too short to drink cheap beer :beer:

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                • Panamamike
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                  WTF? Players come and go all across the league. if you don't turn over your team, you get old and useless. roster turnover is a part of life in professional sports in the salary cap era. "Looks around. The room and doesn't see anyone he is familiar with"??? What kind of crap is that? How long does it take to get familiar with your team mates? 9 years.....3 like Royal? I can understand not wanting to move to LA aspect to a degree, but the rest of that is complete tripe.

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                  • Wheels
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                    I'd lend more credence to Rivers having concerns about the offensive line and the hammering he took behind it last season along with the injuries he experienced. I still maintain his lack of commitment to a new contract is more about seeing how the personnel side of things shapes up.

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                    • Panamamike
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                      Originally posted by Wheels View Post
                      I'd lend more credence to Rivers having concerns about the offensive line and the hammering he took behind it last season along with the injuries he experienced. I still maintain his lack of commitment to a new contract is more about seeing how the personnel side of things shapes up.
                      Yeah....but last year's line and this year's line are not the same, especially after the injuries mounted. I believe we will draft another Olineman to further bolster the line and depth in addition to adding a stud RB. Being able to run the ball again will do wonders for our Offense. When you have the middle of your line decimated by injury, you are gonna get banged up. The year be for we were relatively healthy in the line and it showed.

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                      • BlazingBolt
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                        Originally posted by SDfan View Post
                        dude, check yourself. We've had Rivers starting 9 years already- how many Super Bowls? How many AFC Championships? IN 9 YEARS! You can't possibly guarantee #1 he's here more than 1 more year and #2 He wins us a Super Bowl this year. His last 2 years under NOrv were horrible. Your making a prediction of "3 more years of top QB play", but its looking more and more like the reality is 1 more year where he is uneasy mentally with all the external shit, and then NOTHING.

                        Given that likely scenario of 1 mediocre year and another 7-9 win season, how can you not at least consider trading the guy for a couple high picks while they still can? And NO I'm not endorsing trading up with Tenn and taking Mariota OR Winston. Neither is worth top draft slots and neither is a "Franchise" QB ready to lead an NFL team like Luck was IMO. Pretty sure that trade left us KEEPING our #17 pick and getting Tenn #2 pick this year + another high- but whatever.
                        Even if Rivers is here for one more year and then chooses to retire that is preferable to trading him during the draft. This is not Peyton Manning where he physically can not play and might not ever again. This isn't Eli Manning where he says he absolutely refuses to play for the organization.

                        And that is non sense about AFC Championships and Superbowls....I believe this is a team game and that Rivers makes the team better, there are hardly any QB's in the league better than he is. His last 2 years under Norv were not his best but they were hardly horrible....I don't think Norv or Rivers had a very good team those years.

                        The franchise tag exists for this very situation.

                        I don't see why you expect 2015 to be mediocre. Just because you are pessimistic doesn't make it likely. I think injuries were the major reason we missed the playoffs last year and think some improvements and better health can make this an 11 to 12 win team. I don't think you throw in the towel on 2015 by trading Rivers. And I am going on what I have heard that we would have to give up Rivers and our 17 to get the #2 pick....it means to me that Rivers does not have much value in a trade and is therefore not worth trading.
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                        • richpjr
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                          Originally posted by BlazingBolt View Post
                          Even if Rivers is here for one more year and then chooses to retire that is preferable to trading him during the draft. This is not Peyton Manning where he physically can not play and might not ever again. This isn't Eli Manning where he says he absolutely refuses to play for the organization.

                          And that is non sense about AFC Championships and Superbowls....I believe this is a team game and that Rivers makes the team better, there are hardly any QB's in the league better than he is. His last 2 years under Norv were not his best but they were hardly horrible....I don't think Norv or Rivers had a very good team those years.

                          The franchise tag exists for this very situation.

                          I don't see why you expect 2015 to be mediocre. Just because you are pessimistic doesn't make it likely. I think injuries were the major reason we missed the playoffs last year and think some improvements and better health can make this an 11 to 12 win team. I don't think you throw in the towel on 2015 by trading Rivers. And I am going on what I have heard that we would have to give up Rivers and our 17 to get the #2 pick....it means to me that Rivers does not have much value in a trade and is therefore not worth trading.
                          Very well said. And there is zero chance I'd give up Rivers and our #1 for the #2 pick.

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