Larry English
POLL: The Most OVER-HYPED "Steal" Rookie Who Didn't Do Squat???
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[QUOTE=Ghost of Quacksaw;n1217311]Not sure Mouton even played a snap in a regular season game. He was *that* out of place.
By comparison, guys like Buster Davis and Bryan Still looked like All Pros.
Mager was utterly lost, but at least got some playing time.
Tay Cody was another 3rd round pick who barely finished a cup of coffee with the team.[/QUOTE
height............. weight...... arm length hand size .....40.... ....shuttle ......3-cone...vertical.......broad jumpNew thread on guess the Charger reach!6 ft 1 in
(1.85 m)239 lb
(108 kg)311⁄2 93⁄4 4.86 s 4.34 s 7.08 s 31.5 in
(0.80 m)9 ft 7 in
(2.92 m)All values from NFL Combine[22]
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Originally posted by chaincrusher View PostMany of the players listed in the poll were not considered to be steals at all at the time of the draft. Pipkins, Stick, Mouton and Hester were/are not good players, but they were considered to be reaches at the time of the draft, the opposite of being characterized as a steal. Most of the rest of the players were drafted about where they were rated. Jackson is a better player than his round 7 draft slot would indicate.
The only players considered to be steals at the time they were drafted on the entire list are King and Hill. King significantly contributed to the team and represented great value for a 5th round player. He actually was a steal. Hill is straight trash so he is the clear choice here. Lamp is not on the list, but would be a good candidate for this as well.
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I’ll repeat my post replying to Topcats last post since it was mistakenly deleted, about Larry English.
A classic example of an NFL 1st round pick getting a huge payday check and then deciding…”I’m done.”
A huge amount of money all of a sudden can and does affect certain individuals in ways. Just ask a huge lottery winner.Last edited by Caslon; 06-08-2021, 09:32 PM.
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Originally posted by Caslon View PostI’ll repeat my post replying to Topcats last post since it was mistakenly deleted, about Larry English.
A classic example of an NFL 1st round pick getting a huge payday check and then deciding…”I’m done.”
A huge amount of money all of a sudden can and does affect certain individuals in ways. Just ask a huge lottery winner.Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....
"Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh
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There was a lot of hype for Hester. I think Norv had a big say in that bust. They were hyping him up to be the next Daryl 'Moose' Johnson from Norv's DAL days. AJ traded a #2 (next years) and #5 to get the pick too.
Pipkins maybe next. They seemed enamored w him as a great find/steal from the East West Shrine game and gave him a few starts last year. Now I am reading he may be a swing tackles at best.
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Originally posted by chaincrusher View PostMost had him as a second round draft candidate.
Not so during draft week."The Manti Te'o downward spiral is certainly well-known, but it deserves revisiting given recent events. Te'o, once a first-round lock, tumbled after a hoax involving his deceased "girlfriend" was revealed and, later, his uninspiring play against Alabama in the BCS National Championship Game.
Lately, however, Te'o has been a steady climber on draft boards. So much so, in fact, that the majority of pundits have him going in the first round, despite concerns about his speed. Still, four out of the five draft analysts -- NFL.com's Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks, ESPN's Todd McShay, SBNation.com's Matthew Fairburn, and CBSSports.com's draft insider Rob Rang -- reviewed this week have Te'o being selected in the first round."
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/m...-of-manti-teo/
From a consensus standpoint it was a great grab for the Chargers at pick 38.Last edited by DragonIce; 06-11-2021, 12:39 AM.
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Let's not forget this about Te'o"Te'o is one of the most decorated defensive players in college football history. He won the 2012 Defensive IMPACT Player of the Year Lott Trophy, as well as the Maxwell Award, the Chuck Bednarik Award, the Bronko Nagurski Trophy, the Butkus Award, the Lombardi Award, and the Walter Camp Award. In addition, he was named a national scholar-athlete by the National Football Foundation.[24] One of three finalists for the Heisman Trophy"*
We are all so much smarter and more witty...critiquing things after the fact. Would you have drafted him at pick 38 with this resume, anchoring an undefeated team that gave up 10 points a game? (This, before all the analytics we have now?)
*Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manti_Te%27o
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Originally posted by Cdn Bolt View PostThere was a lot of hype for Hester. I think Norv had a big say in that bust. They were hyping him up to be the next Daryl 'Moose' Johnson from Norv's DAL days. AJ traded a #2 (next years) and #5 to get the pick too.
Pipkins maybe next. They seemed enamored w him as a great find/steal from the East West Shrine game and gave him a few starts last year. Now I am reading he may be a swing tackles at best.
I didn't make this video but it was on here a while back and an awesome back who deserves to start at runningback in the NFL
had me fooled... I thought he would be another tom rathman type FB.... lol
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Originally posted by DragonIce View Post
Not so during draft week."The Manti Te'o downward spiral is certainly well-known, but it deserves revisiting given recent events. Te'o, once a first-round lock, tumbled after a hoax involving his deceased "girlfriend" was revealed and, later, his uninspiring play against Alabama in the BCS National Championship Game.
Lately, however, Te'o has been a steady climber on draft boards. So much so, in fact, that the majority of pundits have him going in the first round, despite concerns about his speed. Still, four out of the five draft analysts -- NFL.com's Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks, ESPN's Todd McShay, SBNation.com's Matthew Fairburn, and CBSSports.com's draft insider Rob Rang -- reviewed this week have Te'o being selected in the first round."
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/m...-of-manti-teo/
From a consensus standpoint it was a great grab for the Chargers at pick 38.
4th round picks were consider gold to some
I didn't have a problem with it as I thought we were getting our future leader on D in Teo,P1. Block Destruction - Ogbonnia
P2. Shocking Effort - Eboigbe
P3. Ball Disruption - Ford
P4. Obnoxious Communication - Henley
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