Chargers 3/4 is not a 3/4, OK...

[Stinky Wizzleteats+]

[bonehead]

So Steve is Eric Williams??

[Bolt-O]

Yubaking must be seething that he can't post here anymore to prove TT and Pags wrong... lol.

[WindsorUK]

Whether a team uses a 3-4 or a 4-3 defensive front, the NFL is a results-oriented business. The most important thing for a defensive coordinator like Pagano is getting off the field on third down and keeping opposing offenses out of the end zone.
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Whatever you want to call our D, this is where it fails the test( Ray Rice ring a bell?)
We have a hard time getting off the field in must-do situations. Our edge rushers haven't been good enough since the Merriman/Philips days and our D linemen( whether you call them NT's, DT's, or DE's) haven't been able to keep our MLB's( or ILB's) clean.

So, according to our DC, we need a strong D-line( edge rushers and gap fillers) to make this hybrid 3-4 work. Has he told our GM this?

[Formula 21]

The way I see it, the Bolts play more of a 1/2 gap system.

[Lightningwill_420]

Our defense should be properly named the:

one, two, 3-4, five, six, seven, eight, schlemiel, schlimazel

[Stinky Wizzleteats+]

When all the dline players play the same gap is that one gap? Rook jumps queen, pawn jumps queen, bishop jumps queen, GANGBANG!

That's our defence!

[Steve]

The biggest thing I think we are missing is OLB play that is consistent. The last few years, when the OLB are healthy we play very well. Then they get hurt, and we can't pressure the QB and the D struggles. JUst like a classic 43 D, or a cover 2 D, you have to have 2 guys coming off the edge and pressuring the QB on every down. Name the OLB we have had doing that for Pags? You can't because every time we put 2 guys on the field, we can't keep them healthy. And our D is going to continue to struggle until that happens. The NFL is becoming a passing league, so the top priority has to be to rush the QB. That doesn't mean we don't have to play run D.

That bullshit that we have to have a big classic NT is just not based in fact. It is not the scheme we run, but it also isn't a problem in our 34. When our NT is on the field and we give up big runs, it is because the run is at the DE, not the NT. Liuget and Reyes tend to overrun plays, and not fight through blocks. So, if we want to fix our run D, give up fewer yards, don't get a NT (who was playing his assignment and doing it fairly well) but get a DE who is not going to be out of position. That is what would make the run D better.

Adding a new NT just means, if the NT works out, is that the same hole is in the same D, only we used a draft pick to add a player to fill a hole that wasn't really a problem. WE still have the same problem, which is teams like to run at our DE, and they like to get out of position. How would a new NT help? And in all likelyhood, that new NT is a couple of years away. So in reality, it makes us weak everywhere.

We need to start drafting an OLB every year. It doesn't have to be a top pick every year, but every year we need new blood. It takes several years for players to develop, so we need a steady supply, guys who are in development, guys who are fresh into the system, and the more experienced players. They can earn their keep as ST guys while they learn to play D. But we can't keep going without edge rushers and we can't get them anywhere else. The best edge rusher in FA was McPhee, who was really, really overpriced (like all pass rushers). We have to take care of developing the players ourselves, just because there is not other choice.

[MakoShark]

I think they just need to tackle better. Tackling is a football fundamental that would go a long towards making our D a better overall unit no matter what 'system' we run, or who the personnel are.

[Panamamike]

The biggest thing I think we are missing is OLB play that is consistent. The last few years, when the OLB are healthy we play very well. Then they get hurt, and we can't pressure the QB and the D struggles. JUst like a classic 43 D, or a cover 2 D, you have to have 2 guys coming off the edge and pressuring the QB on every down. Name the OLB we have had doing that for Pags? You can't because every time we put 2 guys on the field, we can't keep them healthy. And our D is going to continue to struggle until that happens. The NFL is becoming a passing league, so the top priority has to be to rush the QB. That doesn't mean we don't have to play run D.

That bullshit that we have to have a big classic NT is just not based in fact. It is not the scheme we run, but it also isn't a problem in our 34. When our NT is on the field and we give up big runs, it is because the run is at the DE, not the NT. Liuget and Reyes tend to overrun plays, and not fight through blocks. So, if we want to fix our run D, give up fewer yards, don't get a NT (who was playing his assignment and doing it fairly well) but get a DE who is not going to be out of position. That is what would make the run D better.

Adding a new NT just means, if the NT works out, is that the same hole is in the same D, only we used a draft pick to add a player to fill a hole that wasn't really a problem. WE still have the same problem, which is teams like to run at our DE, and they like to get out of position. How would a new NT help? And in all likelyhood, that new NT is a couple of years away. So in reality, it makes us weak everywhere.

We need to start drafting an OLB every year. It doesn't have to be a top pick every year, but every year we need new blood. It takes several years for players to develop, so we need a steady supply, guys who are in development, guys who are fresh into the system, and the more experienced players. They can earn their keep as ST guys while they learn to play D. But we can't keep going without edge rushers and we can't get them anywhere else. The best edge rusher in FA was McPhee, who was really, really overpriced (like all pass rushers). We have to take care of developing the players ourselves, just because there is not other choice.

FWIW, I think we have drafted an OLB each of the last four years. I agree that it is a requirement in that they take time to develop, some will be misses, and you can't have too many pass rushers.

[Lightningwill_420]

The biggest thing I think we are missing is OLB play that is consistent. The last few years, when the OLB are healthy we play very well. Then they get hurt, and we can't pressure the QB and the D struggles. JUst like a classic 43 D, or a cover 2 D, you have to have 2 guys coming off the edge and pressuring the QB on every down. Name the OLB we have had doing that for Pags? You can't because every time we put 2 guys on the field, we can't keep them healthy. And our D is going to continue to struggle until that happens. The NFL is becoming a passing league, so the top priority has to be to rush the QB. That doesn't mean we don't have to play run D.

That bullshit that we have to have a big classic NT is just not based in fact. It is not the scheme we run, but it also isn't a problem in our 34. When our NT is on the field and we give up big runs, it is because the run is at the DE, not the NT. Liuget and Reyes tend to overrun plays, and not fight through blocks. So, if we want to fix our run D, give up fewer yards, don't get a NT (who was playing his assignment and doing it fairly well) but get a DE who is not going to be out of position. That is what would make the run D better.

Adding a new NT just means, if the NT works out, is that the same hole is in the same D, only we used a draft pick to add a player to fill a hole that wasn't really a problem. WE still have the same problem, which is teams like to run at our DE, and they like to get out of position. How would a new NT help? And in all likelyhood, that new NT is a couple of years away. So in reality, it makes us weak everywhere.

We need to start drafting an OLB every year. It doesn't have to be a top pick every year, but every year we need new blood. It takes several years for players to develop, so we need a steady supply, guys who are in development, guys who are fresh into the system, and the more experienced players. They can earn their keep as ST guys while they learn to play D. But we can't keep going without edge rushers and we can't get them anywhere else. The best edge rusher in FA was McPhee, who was really, really overpriced (like all pass rushers). We have to take care of developing the players ourselves, just because there is not other choice.

I used to think the number-one thing a D needed was a great line. However, I've come around to your way of thinking. Hard to argue with evidence. When Ingram is healthy, we win. When he isn't healthy, we lose.

[KNSD]

We need to start drafting an OLB every year. It doesn't have to be a top pick every year, but every year we need new blood. It takes several years for players to develop, so we need a steady supply, guys who are in development, guys who are fresh into the system, and the more experienced players. They can earn their keep as ST guys while they learn to play D. But we can't keep going without edge rushers and we can't get them anywhere else. The best edge rusher in FA was McPhee, who was really, really overpriced (like all pass rushers). We have to take care of developing the players ourselves, just because there is not other choice.

If you have to draft an OLB every year, doesn't that mean the requirements for the position are too tough? Time to design a better system.