Questions about LA and history of the NFL

[KNSD]

Won't matter. The Chargers had to claim the LA market was within seventy five miles and forced the league to enforce the television market of LA because LA television wouldn't cooperate. The League had to enforce their own rules over the television market of Los Angeles and made them broadcast Chargers games as well as black them out if the home games were not sold out. The Chargers own the Los Angeles television markets as much as the Jets and Giants own the New York tri state television markets. The Chargers will win just as much as if Kreonke moved the Rams to New York City. It will be billions of dollars in damages.

Why go to all this effort then? Take the billions and run.

[Sec-E4]

The facts are that the Chargers spent 1, I repeat 1 total season of 1960 in Los Angeles. Yah 1 season, So they never got a chance to gather up a fan following or to build a tradition in L.A.

Was there a point that you were trying to make here ? If the Rams move to LA, It will have to be approved by the NFL and all its owners. There for the law suits you mentioned wouldn't happen. Do you really think that the NFL would allow a team to relocate and then get sued because they took over the area that they moved to ?? LOL

It's the same when a team moves..Take the Rams for instance, Once they moved to St Louis, Do you think they could hold the rights for the market that they just left ? Nope, They took over the St. Louis market and bumped what ever other team was exclusive there, While losing the rights for the LA/Orange county area

[Boltaction]

First I prefer a multipurpose new domed stadium downtown SD along with a Convention Center expansion. Makes most sense to me.

Moving to LA is risky and if I'm Spanos I wouldn't do it. But I truly believe he feels it's the only way he get a new stadium he can afford. The proposed SD stadium costs the Spanoses way more money for way less revenue, thats the only reason Spanos is serious about Carson.

I've been a Charger fan since their first year, yes in LA. I followed them as a fan to San Diego. I lived in Las Vegas and traveled on weekends to see them play. SD was a lot further to drive but I did it anyways. I became a season ticket holder the first year of Don Coryell. I finally moved to Carlsbad twenty years ago and stiil buy season tickets.

I am a Charger fan because of the way they played the passing game right from the beginning. Loved those early teams. My dad was a Ram fan, hated the way they played the game. I look at it as entertainment, and a sophisticated passing game is a must in my book of enjoyment. So I will follow the team to Carson or LA if thats where they end up. Not my prefrence but I will live with it. No matter where they end up I just want them to start winning Super Bowls, and if it takes a new stadium to get that accomplished along with the bigger revenues then so be it. I belive its entertainment, we fans dont own the team, were just fans. I'm not going to stop being a fan because my team plays in one of the oldest stadiums in the whole NFL and just wants a new shiny stadium to stay competitive, I would be upset if they didn't.

[KNSD]

So what you're saying is: You want a new stadium in San Diego if and only if you personally don't have to pay a dime for it. It's ok if somebody else pays for it through a hotel tax, but it's not ok if you personally help pay for it through a ticket surcharge.

It's not really about "government being able to abuse the tax code." It's about "government being able to potentially abuse the tax code that may affect ME."

Got it.


I can understand "I'm a Charger fan and I believe in free market. LA can simply offer more money and therefore 'See ya San Diego!' " Perfectly consistent position.

[Boltaction]

I never said any of what you're saying knsd. I will pay to attend if in San Diego or LA. This is not about me. That's the point. It' about the Chargers. I will remain a fan if they stay or go. I'm a fan of the game even if they don't have San Diego in their name. After all I was a fan from the very beginning and they were the Los Angeles Chargers. I don't care where they play.

My wife is from Jackson, Michigan. She didn't stop bring a fan when the team moved from Detroit to Pontiac. Same as my wife I will remain a fan of the Chargers.

[KNSD]

I totally respect your allegiance to the team and not the city.

A bit miffed about not willing to pay an extra $5 a game to fund a stadium through a ticket surcharge but willing to allow others to pay extra through hotel tax to fund a stadium downtown. I'll get over it.

[Boltaction]

I am always against new taxes in San Diego or LA, or anywhere, we are already the highest taxed nation in the world. I think they can figure it out without new taxes.

[Panamamike]

I totally respect your allegiance to the team and not the city.

A bit miffed about not willing to pay an extra $5 a game to fund a stadium through a ticket surcharge but willing to allow others to pay extra through hotel tax to fund a stadium downtown. I'll get over it.

I would be in favor of both....spread the cost around

[KNSD]

we are already the highest taxed nation in the world.

Please provide proof (hopefully to a link that doesn't involve calling the US a dictatorship).

Here's mine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_spending

[Lightningwill_420]

I am always against new taxes in San Diego or LA, or anywhere, we are already the highest taxed nation in the world. I think they can figure it out without new taxes.

I wouldn't visit Western Europe, Canada, Cuba, or China if I were you.

And domed stadium in San Diego? Really? To protect the fans from all that morning fog?

That's the second time I've heard that mentioned. A domed stadium in San Diego is like finding a redwood forest and paving it over with a giant nude photo of Ron Jeremy's left nipple.

The best thing San Diego has to offer is weather. No reason to pay extra to have that covered up.

[KNSD]

That's the second time I've heard that mentioned. A domed stadium in San Diego is like finding a redwood forest and paving it over with a giant nude photo of Ron Jeremy.

They would need a dome to make it compatible with the convention center.

The reason the convention center doesn't want to share a facility with the Chargers is that they wouldn't be able to use the facility half of the year due to 1) the Chargers being there and 2) Uncertainty of NFL scheduling. You have to schedule the events a year or more in advance, so even away games are off limits for events.

Since the Convention Center is a money-maker entity for the city, it gets priority over a money-loser like a professional football team.

[Panamamike]

I am always against new taxes in San Diego or LA, or anywhere, we are already the highest taxed nation in the world. I think they can figure it out without new taxes.

I get your point. But while CA is very heavily taxed, the USA is not the highest taxed country. Take a look at Sweden and Canada just to name a few.