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Our Offense - This Year vs Last Year
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Originally posted by like54ninjas View PostIt takes time to implement/develop a new scheme.
Look at the first 2 years of Brees in NO.
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Originally posted by eaterfan View Post
I don't know that this is always the case, but I think it is definitely true for this offense. This is supposed to be a very complicated offense that has answers for everything and has a lot of flexibility. The downside to this is there's a ton to learn and everyone has to be on the same page so it takes more time to implement perfectly than some of the simpler Shannahan type offenses. I'm still on the fence about it, because I think there are issues getting receivers open, but it's way too early to make a final judgment.
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Originally posted by Steve View Post
It may have as much to do with having a terrible right side to the OL. No play calling in the world is going to overcome bad personnel.
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Originally posted by Classic View Post
Wasn't our right side at least average up until O'day went down?
Norton has been allowing a large percentage of the hits and even when they aren't allowed hits, there are a lot of plays where his guy gets past him and is running free on the QB, just in many cases, it is the short passes that are saving him from taking a hit. Herbert has gotten rid of a lot of passes before he took a hits in some games, masking the fact that the right side of the OL is not playing very well.
The other thing maybe worth thinking about is how many sacks has the OL given up the last 2 weeks vs Cinci and NYG. The stat sheet shows 4 vs Cin, and 2 vs Giants. But I would say they have ALLOWED 0. I may be missing 1, but every play I am thinking of right now goes down on Herbert for holding the ball too long. So while Herbert gets a lot of credit sometimes for saving bad pass protection and living to fight another day, he has lately given up some that OL did a good job on.
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Originally posted by Steve View Post
It may have as much to do with having a terrible right side to the OL. No play calling in the world is going to overcome bad personnel.
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I think some of the perceived "improvement" in the OL is because they are doing more to help them out. Last season, we did not chip block much, didn't use the TE to help out the OT, and Herbert took deeper drops, mostly straight back (fewer boots and waggles) and held the ball a lot longer. This season, we move Herbert around more, ask him to get rid of the ball quicker and give the OL help a LOT more with the TE and RB.
It's not as bad as when Norv always left the OL isolated one on one with no help and asked the QB to hold the ball, but it is a lot harder to hold your block as an OL the longer you are asked to do it. Herbert is taking fewer sacks in large part because he isn't holding the ball that much. The last few weeks, the OL has played outstanding, but Herbert has had such good protection he has taken more sacks and they are mostly on him, not the OL.
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