Tom Telesco Discussion - Retained for 2023 Season.

[Air Coryell]

Remember TT offered MGIII an extension at $10M a year, instead of thinking to invest that $$$ into the OL or DL. These are the wiffs no team can withstand.

I give NE and 49ers credit for not resigning their veteran players when their is risk of their contribution going down, That is why the draft is so important.

[Riverwalk]

Remember TT offered MGIII an extension at $10M a year, instead of thinking to invest that $$$ into the OL or DL. These are the wiffs no team can withstand.

I give NE and 49ers credit for not resigning their veteran players when their is risk of their contribution going down, That is why the draft is so important.

So MGIII did one of the best things ever for the Chargers by refusing that $10M which got him shitcanned. Grateful for that.

[Topcat]

Remember TT offered MGIII an extension at $10M a year, instead of thinking to invest that $$$ into the OL or DL. These are the wiffs no team can withstand.

I give NE and 49ers credit for not resigning their veteran players when their is risk of their contribution going down, That is why the draft is so important.

Yep...that's one of the key ways the Cheatriots stockpile draft picks...they play the Comp Game...

[Bolt4Knob]

Yes, its time to fire Telesco. Its over do
Fine somebody else

His drafts are garbage

Jaimes
Stick
Woods
spiller
Palmer with two catches
McKitty with on
Rumph - did he even play

These are the mid round players that are supposed to help and what did they do Saturday - nothing

[Boltx]

Again, zero division titles and 2 measly playoff wins in a decade. A DECADE!

Spanos: Extend that man!

[SDBORN]

You get what you pay for.

Would love to see TT fired, but I doubt it happens. He's cheap and keeps this team mediocre at best - Spanos is perfectly fine with this.

[richpjr]

I'd love to see what his contract status is. I saw something a while ago that said his contract is up after this season so I wonder what the plan for him is. Have quietly extended him? Or will they replace him ?

[Bolt4Knob]

I'd love to see what his contract status is. I saw something a while ago that said his contract is up after this season so I wonder what the plan for him is. Have quietly extended him? Or will they replace him ?

My guess the quietly extended him. And its not even mentioned that he is on the hot seat. STaley is mentioned more. And of the two, I think Staley can still get better. Telesco is Telesco

His drafts are very poor in rounds 3-5 and those are the key players that are signed for cheap. Tillery was a bust; Adderley didn't play last night. The list goes on and on. And you fill in for bad drafts two ways

1) free agency - so they cost more.
2) older veteran free agents who migth be past their prime

Some people are just better at their job than others -- even with John Boy - try some new thinking

The Chargers have a lot to do this offseason -

[fanatic]

Chargers Enter Salary Cap Hell After Embarrassing Playoff Loss


Story by Ryan Phillips • Yesterday 3:04 PM

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...ab6f305b2fa1ae
As things stand, the Chargers are roughly $10 million over the cap for the 2023 season, the fifth-worst situation in the league. Lest you think they might be able to cut some guy and supplement the roster, they rank 23rd in draft capital. And those numbers come before giving Justin Herbert an extension, which could be worth upwards of $50 million a season.

The big issue for the Chargers is there aren't any easy cuts. The team's biggest cap hits belong to Joey Bosa ($31 million), Khalil Mack ($27.4 million), Keenan Allen ($21.7 million), Mike Williams ($19 million), J.C. Jackson ($17 million) and Corey Linsley ($13.1 million). It would be hard to move each of those guys.

While he's injured a lot, Bosa is an All-Pro talent and cutting him would cause a $38 million cap hit. He's going nowhere.

Mack would cost $9 million if he was cut, but the Chargers gave up second- and sixth-round picks for him last offseason. It would be irresponsible to cut him after one lackluster year. That said, of anyone on this list, he's the most likely to go because it would save the team $18.4 million.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...ab6f305b2fa1ae

[fanatic]

Part Two: Williams was injured for most of the season, a theme throughout his career. But cutting him would cause a $26 million cap hit. He'll be back.

Cutting J.C. Jackson -- who was a terrible signing -- would cost $32 million. Again, this was a horrible contract from the start for the Chargers and they're stuck with him.

Linsley is Herbert's center and the heart of the offensive line. He's staying. Besides, cutting him would cause a $7.8 million cap hit.

There could be some contract restructuring from that group, but that just kicks the can down the road for an even worse cap situation in the future.

The true cut candidates are Mack. cornerback Michael Davis ($7.4 million in cap savings), guard Matt Feiler ($6.5 million in savings) and defensive tackle Austin Johnson ($3.4 million in savings). The issue with cutting any of those guys is there aren't replacements on the roster and, as noted, the team doesn't have a ton of draft assets to add starters.

There are no good options for how to move forward.

Additionally, the Chargers have a number of key free agents. Safety Nasir Adderley will almost surely be too expensive to retain. Wide receiver/kick returner Deandre Carter, backup quarterback Chase Daniel, receiver Jalen Guyton, tackles Trey Pipkins and Storm Norman, punter J.K. Scott, and linebackers Drue Tranquill and Kyle Van Noy are all free agents. It's likely most of those guys won't be back because LA simply can't afford to retain them.

Then comes the matter of Herbert's extension. After three seasons of excellence, the 24-year-old should be getting a huge extension this offseason. The going rate for a top-level franchise quarterback is between $40 million and $50 million a year. While any deal would likely start after the 2023 season, it's still a substantial cash outlay that needs to be put in place now and would hamper any long-term additions.

The realization from all this is that 2022 was the Chargers' year to win big. Given how they operated over the offseason, they knew it. Giving up a ton for J.C. Jackson and Khalil Mack, while overpaying for average interior defenders like Austin Jackson and Sebastian Joseph-Day reeked of desperation in a last gasp of trying to piece together a roster capable of making a run. Instead, they went 10-7 and flopped in embarrassing fashion to end the season.

The Chargers embarrassed themselves Saturday night in Jacksonville. And the worst part is yet to come.

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[captaind]

To summarize everything fanatic just stated above, this was the last year of Telesco's contract, and he went all-in. More aggressive in the offseason than we're used to. The end result? It didn't work.


I think privately he was probably told this was it this season. I took it as a foregone conclusion that his contract will not be renewed. A nice way of saying, "You're fired" for the cowardly Spanii who are indecisive. It's an easy way out for them, and I think they planned it.

[nomad1946]

I wonder if some of what TT did in the off season was to screw things up so bad that no competent GM candidate would apply and the Spanii would have to give him a new contract.