WR Jalen Guyton: Where Does He Fit?

[richpjr]

Fair points. But how many of those stats would be negatively impacted by having the 32nd rated offensive line in football? By having a green rookie thrown in there? By having Ekeler go down for nearly half the year? Steichen did an amazing job with what he was given. Let’s be real, Lombardi isn’t great at adjusting.

Of course all of those things factor in, but remember - we lost so many winnable games that we fired the coach. Remember, Steichen was the offensive coordinator in the game we lost to the Patriots 45-0, who were a below .500 team with Cam Newton at QB. I only bring this up because there is so much grumbling about how bad Lombardi is and people pining for Steichen because he was so much better. I'm just pointing out that Steichen had his issues and somehow people are under the impression that the offense was better under him. It just wasn't.

[Duck of Death]

Of course all of those things factor in, but remember - we lost so many winnable games that we fired the coach. Remember, Steichen was the offensive coordinator in the game we lost to the Patriots 45-0, who were a below .500 team with Cam Newton at QB. I only bring this up because there is so much grumbling about how bad Lombardi is and people pining for Steichen because he was so much better. I'm just pointing out that Steichen had his issues and somehow people are under the impression that the offense was better under him. It just wasn't.

True, but Steichen was also a rookie. And I submit that Lombardi very likely would’ve floundered under those same conditions in ‘20. But granted, that is my armchair QB opinion. Look I’m not saying Lombardi hasn’t done some good things - he most certainly has. But he was given a Ferrari, and too often he drives it like a 90 year old grandmother who can’t see over the steering wheel, nor reach the clutch. The painful fact is becoming rather evident - he is an average play caller, at best. And average isn’t bad - it’s middle of the pack. But, average probably isn’t going to punch a ticket to the Super Bowl. Now, the flip side to this argument is that there probably isn’t a plethora of elite play callers around. They obviously don’t grow on trees. So, they are stuck for this year. And the only thing I can do is bitch and moan on a board like this.

[gzubeck]

True, but Steichen was also a rookie. And I submit that Lombardi very likely would’ve floundered under those same conditions in ‘20. But granted, that is my armchair QB opinion. Look I’m not saying Lombardi hasn’t done some good things - he most certainly has. But he was given a Ferrari, and too often he drives it like a 90 year old grandmother who can’t see over the steering wheel, nor reach the clutch. The painful fact is becoming rather evident - he is an average play caller, at best. And average isn’t bad - it’s middle of the pack. But, average probably isn’t going to punch a ticket to the Super Bowl. Now, the flip side to this argument is that there probably isn’t a plethora of elite play callers around. They obviously don’t grow on trees. So, they are stuck for this year. And the only thing I can do is bitch and moan on a board like this.

Pretty much sums it up! POTD for me.

[foreigner]

I would honestly rest the key guys and throw away the 3 next games, get everyone healthy and shoot for a 10-7 record at the end of year, the record doesnt mean amything provided it gets us into the playoffs, once inside and with everyone healthy lets's see what it happens. That's what I would do anyways...

First thing I would replace Guyton with T-Billy for example...

[Bolt-O]

I would honestly rest the key guys and throw away the 3 next games, get everyone healthy and shoot for a 10-7 record at the end of year, the record doesnt mean amything provided it gets us into the playoffs, once inside and with everyone healthy lets's see what it happens. That's what I would do anyways...

First thing I would replace Guyton with T-Billy for example...

Raiders would ask a high price for T-Billy.

[CanadianBoltFan]

Raiders would ask a high price for T-Billy.

I would rather take a flyer on Fuller, who at his best is quite a bit better than either Guyton or Johnson

[richpjr]

Raiders would ask a high price for T-Billy.

Those 2 receptions for 16 yards he has in the possible 19 games since he left the Chargers certainly warrant that high price.

[CanadianBoltFan]

Those 2 receptions for 16 yards he has in the possible 19 games since he left the Chargers certainly warrant that high price.

lol not sure why the obsession with the guy. He got a couple of long bombs one year that was fun but has barely sniffed any playing time since

[foreigner]

lol not sure why the obsession with the guy. He got a couple of long bombs one year that was fun but has barely sniffed any playing time since

Because he hasnt played with Herbert... Herbert got the best out of him. And bombs is what this team is needing.

[CanadianBoltFan]

Because he hasnt played with Herbert... Herbert got the best out of him. And bombs is what this team is needing.

They need speed for sure, I just think we should set the bar a little higher

[richpjr]

They need speed for sure, I just think we should set the bar a little higher

The guy is on his 7th team for a reason. He has 22 catches in his entire career, yet people are acting like he is Jerry Rice.

[ChargersPowderBlue]

The guy is on his 7th team for a reason. He has 22 catches in his entire career, yet people are acting like he is Jerry Rice.

This fanbase does this with a lot of players or coaches who left the Chargers. But to be fair, I thought Tyron Johnson was a good contributor to the offense in 2020. I am unclear on why he was cut by Staley. Did Staley see something from TJ that he didn't like? Did TJ do something Staley didn't like?