2023 Official Roster Build Thread - The Initial 53 / Practice Squad

[blueman]

With a little luck, Foster Sarell is working with Duke Merriweather this offseason. He’s got skills, he just needs more technique. Pipkins and Salyer too.

Interesting. Is this the first positive/hopeful post about Sarell lol?

[Formula 21]

Interesting. Is this the first positive/hopeful post about Sarell lol?

A fan can hope. He was a 5 star out of high school so he does have some natural talent.

[blueman]

A fan can hope. He was a 5 star out of high school so he does have some natural talent.

And a UDFA. That’s my kinda “potential” lol.

[Critty]

I don't think the cap situation is that big of a deal. If you look at 2024, they are like 50mil of space. 2025 like 180mil of space and 2026 like 240mil of space because only 2 players on roster have a contract that far into future. The issue just appears to be what they do for 2023 to make it work. The point is that they have enormous amounts of cap space in future years that give them plenty of options in how they work through the 2023 cap. Now a good chuck of those future years allocation should be set aside for the 12year/500mil contract that Herbert needs to get. And they are in great shape to offer something like that. And under Staley they seem to understand that building a great OL is the way to go.

[Bolt4Knob]

I don't think the cap situation is that big of a deal. If you look at 2024, they are like 50mil of space. 2025 like 180mil of space and 2026 like 240mil of space because only 2 players on roster have a contract that far into future. The issue just appears to be what they do for 2023 to make it work. The point is that they have enormous amounts of cap space in future years that give them plenty of options in how they work through the 2023 cap. Now a good chuck of those future years allocation should be set aside for the 12year/500mil contract that Herbert needs to get. And they are in great shape to offer something like that. And under Staley they seem to understand that building a great OL is the way to go.

2024 only had 28 players
so doesn't include two draft classes
signing herbert
and any dollars being pushed to the future

I get what you are saying about but its not that great either in 2024 and I am not sure playing this game eyarly is wise

[Lone Bolt]

I think Adderly, Callahan, Fox, Van Noy can have their roles filled with a combo of in house youngsters, to picks as late as the mid rounds...

I think Pip and Tranquil, if not resigned, gotta be replaced with early picks...even if its Salyer to RT, gotta be a day 2 Guard then, at worst...

So to me, bringing back Pip and Drew may tighten things financially, but leaves us more flexible in who we can select early.

The rest of them, and I really like what many of them gave us on the field last year...they will have to wait til post draft, sad to say...its just the business side of football...hopefully they like LA enough to be patient...except for Adderley. He will want money he isnt worth...at least to us...

Anyway, if I was GM, thats how I would play it...along with adios and thank you to Fieler...and if I get that TE, same for Everett...though Im not sure how the timing of his release will dictate cap savings, whether it would have to be prior to draft or not.

Thats my "roster build" 2 cents...

By the way...would the savings be any different on Everett, if we traded him for a late pick? 5th or 6th, maybe?

[Critty]

2024 only had 28 players
so doesn't include two draft classes
signing herbert
and any dollars being pushed to the future

I get what you are saying about but its not that great either in 2024 and I am not sure playing this game eyarly is wise

They have outs on players as well. If they chose to keep Bosa for next 2 years. Then they can try to trade him in 2025 or cut him with zero dead and save 25mil. So couldnt they play that game with that Bosa 25mil out knowing they have space to work with.

[Bolt4Knob]

They have outs on players as well. If they chose to keep Bosa for next 2 years. Then they can try to trade him in 2025 or cut him with zero dead and save 25mil. So couldnt they play that game with that Bosa 25mil out knowing they have space to work with.

They do have outs - but if you are taking from Bosa this year - the cap savings gets less in two years

Same with Mack and Allen - if you push 20m on Mack - what savings will you have nexgt year - very little

If you are trading Bosa - trade him now at 27 and not at 29

[Air Coryell]

I don't think the cap situation is that big of a deal. If you look at 2024, they are like 50mil of space. 2025 like 180mil of space and 2026 like 240mil of space because only 2 players on roster have a contract that far into future. The issue just appears to be what they do for 2023 to make it work. The point is that they have enormous amounts of cap space in future years that give them plenty of options in how they work through the 2023 cap. Now a good chuck of those future years allocation should be set aside for the 12year/500mil contract that Herbert needs to get. And they are in great shape to offer something like that. And under Staley they seem to understand that building a great OL is the way to go.

We are in cap hell thanks to TT. Too much $$ tied to non line of scrimmage guys --- JC, MW, KA, DJ. And now we need to take JH salary from a $10M avg to $50M average. And then their is Joey. Big $$. but questionable ROI. Lot's of work to be done.

[Bolt4Knob]

We are in cap hell thanks to TT. Too much $$ tied to non line of scrimmage guys --- JC, MW, KA, DJ. And now we need to take JH salary from a $10M avg to $50M average. And then their is Joey. Big $$. but questionable ROI. Lot's of work to be done.

Exactly
all comes back to his inability to draft consistently
Chargers have total cap - at this moment of 100m for KA, MW, JB and Mack

Mack is a 23m cap hit
a secound round pick is 2m

[Bolt4Knob]

Chargers media team put out something on twitter

looks like Michael Davis is gettinbg extended
His current cap number is 9.4 -

I think he will get a deal that reduces his cap by 3-4m

I am thinking a three year extension
12m up front - so divided by 4 years
1m salary this year
cap hit of $6m

[dmac_bolt]

After June 1 if they traded JCJ it would be a 12M cap savings from OTC, $5M dead $. That just looked like a not too bad option. I didn't look at the restructure/extension options before but they look like the best for getting under the cap. Restructuring Bosa and Mack gets us $35M savings and UTC. I think that means converting salary to signing bonus.

I think that just means kicking the can down the road for a year as their cap #s are $29M (Bosa) and $27M (Mack) next year now and higher if 2023 salary is added to 2024 signing bonus

Bosa was poor cap value this year, he better stay healthy next year

I don’t know who will trade for JCJ and assume his contract ($12M guaranteed this year, $14M/year non-guaranteed the next 3) but if they could find a trade partner, sure - he leaves $5M per year of cap hit for the next 4 years.