Thoughts On Cutting Keenan Allen?

[Bolt4Knob]

MW is not a possession receiver. Palmer is, but he's not nearly as good as Allen. If you cut Allen and don't find a suitable replacement the offense will suffer just as
it did this year. We need not go for a 1::1 replacement with Allen. Getting an elite TE would do the trick. I'd still try to find another WR in the 3-4th rounds. Bandy's, not it.

As for Bosa, he surely did not make much of a difference once he came back. But he claims he was playing on one leg and getting held. Unless he's traded we
really cannot afford to cut him. It's a $38M dead cap number by doing so. That's out of the question. Best guess is that his contract gets restructured.

Allen may end up being a cap casualty, but not Bosa.

As for the draft, if Bijan is as good as the message board claims it may be difficult to pass on him at #21. But TT drafts for best fit at position of need and
I'm not so sure RB is high on the list. We can use help at LB, CB and OT. So I wouldn't discount those positions in the 1st.

Understand about Bosa. The Chargers can keep his contract status quo - but that would just mean others get extended (Davis, Ekeler) or restructured (Williams or Linsley)

I get the Chargers would need to find a replacement for Allen but thats Telescos job. He just needs to do it and can't be afraid of making a change. The team is going to sign Herbert to a long term perhaps - why limit his window to one or maybe two years.

[charger1_sj]

Understand about Bosa. The Chargers can keep his contract status quo - but that would just mean others get extended (Davis, Ekeler) or restructured (Williams or Linsley)

I get the Chargers would need to find a replacement for Allen but thats Telescos job. He just needs to do it and can't be afraid of making a change. The team is going to sign Herbert to a long term perhaps - why limit his window to one or maybe two years.

I have no faith in TT. You and I can find decent players in rounds 1-3. But he's even struck out enough times in those rounds. The Chargers have been pretty
good at finding FAs, sometimes on the cheap. Of course not last year.

It's going to be an interesting March 15th (for some the dreaded ides of March).

[21&500]

A running team has the offensive line and auxilary pieces (tight ends/wide recievers) spend more time practicing run blocking than pass protection. When they do pass, play action is a big part of the passing game. If the running game is shut down, the passing game doesn't work well because the offensive line will not be prepared to hold up to the exotic 2nd /3rd down pass rush packages that D coordinators will bring.

If you draft Bijan Robinson, you will have to spend more time preparing to run the football. You can't prepare the same way as last year and then just stick him in there and tell him to succeed (look at how well he did against Alabama). It would be a waste of a top draft pick if you didn't.

The defense has to be one that benefits significantly by field position. Pinning offenses inside their twenty and watching Staley's defense bend and then break again and again would be a killer.

If this is true, I'm out on BJR.
I just figure he can do well behind the same OL assuming they're healthy.

[Bolt4Knob]

I have no faith in TT. You and I can find decent players in rounds 1-3. But he's even struck out enough times in those rounds. The Chargers have been pretty
good at finding FAs, sometimes on the cheap. Of course not last year.

It's going to be an interesting March 15th (for some the dreaded ides of March).

Same about TT. I am not sure how much is because John Boy is in the room or he is just who he is. But Haglund on twitter wrote (the Guilty as Charged guy) and I agree. I think Telesco this draft - especially after R1 - needs to go a little bit more on production and a little less projection. Maybe lower ceiling but higher floors.

[21&500]

"When your D can't get off the field and gives up points in bunches..." like in the second half against Jacksonville, when we ran it six times? Yeah, that worked out so well. And why couldn't we get off the field this past season? Could it have anything to do with the fact that we gave up 2,478 yards rushing, more than the 900 we gained?

Define running team? If Justin Herbert throws for over 4,000 yards and 30+ touchdowns in addition to Bijan Robinson running for 1,500 yards does that make the Chargers a running team?

I can't use the Cowboys in 2022 as an example because Dak Prescott was injured and missed five games. In 2021, under Kellen Moore, Dak threw for 4,449 yards and 37 touchdowns while Zeke Elliott and Tony Pollard combined for 1,721 yards rushing. As a team the Cowboys passed for 4,800 yards and rushed for 2,119 yards. Do you define that as a running team?

Also, if we drafted Bijan Robinson and he turned out to be an elite (there's that word again) running back, it would free Ekeler up to do what he does best--catch the ball out of the backfield. I used Bijan Robinson running for 1,500 yards as an example to see how outrageous Steve is; he wouldn't actually have to do that, since it's a lot to ask of a rookie. But if Robinson were to gain 1,100 or 1,200 yards or more and Ekeler had about 500 on the ground instead of 900 I don't see how that's a problem. I see running for 1,524 yards as a team, which is what we did this past season, as a major problem, especially when your quarterback is banged up for most of the year.

Reported.

[21&500]

Same about TT. I am not sure how much is because John Boy is in the room or he is just who he is. But Haglund on twitter wrote (the Guilty as Charged guy) and I agree. I think Telesco this draft - especially after R1 - needs to go a little bit more on production and a little less projection. Maybe lower ceiling but higher floors.

Music to Mayer's ear.

[Bolt4Knob]

Music to Mayer's ear.

Is he going to fall to R2. Round 1 - need explosive talent in round 1. The rest of the draft, channel your inner Mel Kiper about "production".

[richpjr]

Can't wait for some clarity from the team on which way we are going. Who is cut and who is restructured have been debated long enough - we want answers from the team!

[Bolt4Knob]

Can't wait for some clarity from the team on which way we are going. Who is cut and who is restructured have been debated long enough - we want answers from the team!

Telesco is pretty slow about that stuff usually. So my guess, closer to the first week of March. Granted, if there are trade talks - probably going on now

It will be interesting to see the direction and the path.

[richpjr]

Telesco is pretty slow about that stuff usually. So my guess, closer to the first week of March. Granted, if there are trade talks - probably going on now

It will be interesting to see the direction and the path.

Not just TT, no teams have really announced much yet. I am just an impatient fan.

[Boltjolt]

A running team has the offensive line and auxilary pieces (tight ends/wide recievers) spend more time practicing run blocking than pass protection. When they do pass, play action is a big part of the passing game. If the running game is shut down, the passing game doesn't work well because the offensive line will not be prepared to hold up to the exotic 2nd /3rd down pass rush packages that D coordinators will bring.

If you draft Bijan Robinson, you will have to spend more time preparing to run the football. You can't prepare the same way as last year and then just stick him in there and tell him to succeed (look at how well he did against Alabama). It would be a waste of a top draft pick if you didn't.

The defense has to be one that benefits significantly by field position. Pinning offenses inside their twenty and watching Staley's defense bend and then break again and again would be a killer.

What do you mean by "preparing to run the football"?

It's no different than before, you just have to have better blocking and a better RB, some better play calling..
Ekelers YPC didn't suffer.

Everybody is learning a new offense this season so there won't be need for more prep to run the ball than there will be to throw it.

[blueman]

What do you mean by "preparing to run the football"?

It's no different than before, you just have to have better blocking and a better RB, some better play calling..
Ekelers YPC didn't suffer.

Everybody is learning a new offense this season so there won't be need for more prep to run the ball than there will be to throw it.

Not sure I buy it either, I mean if we’re a better running team and are getting more yards per run, won’t we be running less? Is the league stretching the field to 120 yards??