Welcome WR Quentin Johnston , TCU (Round 1, #21)

[BayAreaBoltz]

Maybe in two but that's what the draft is for. Just get someone more ready than QJ is.

As in Addison or Flowers ready.

[Maniaque 6]

4 rec in 4 tgts with 1 TD
Can we call it a beginning ?

[AZBolt]

4 rec in 4 tgts with 1 TD
Can we call it a beginning ?

Yes, we surely can. must think positively.

[AK47]

4 rec in 4 tgts with 1 TD
Can we call it a beginning ?

Confidence booster for sure.....Lets not forget the multiple penalties he inflicted on the lions resulting in key 1st downs for us.

Moore finally got the memo. The best way to use QJ is in isolation outside threatening to beat is man down field.

[Fleet 1]

Absolutely should be the 3rd WR to start the season. He and Palmer are totally different guys with different roles. This was the draft to take a guy that compliments Mike and Keenan. And gets deep. A little joystick twitchy fella. This is why i was so heavy on Addison/Flowers and Gibbs at RB. This team needs that HR hitter type to compliment Allen and MW. Has nothing to do with the WR room and depth chart. It has to do with 11 personnel packages and scaring the shit out of teams with a 3 headed hydra that is unrecoverable with 3 guys that need 5-6 guys to contain. QJ is 1v1 and doesnt do much. Even on the PIs today those balls bounced off his hands. He is not scaring anyone. Just the way it is right now and the window was this year given the cap hell we put ourselves in next year. I just dont think he was the right pick. Honestly. Not for this year at least and i really felt that with Mikes injury history we needed a guy that could step up if he went down. Not a raw player who is meant to come in after one of our guys is cut. I wanted firepower this year. And only Mike stretches the field until Guyton gets back.

Addison was the right pick there. Just the way i feel about it. Kincaid or Flowers help immensely as they are NFL ready. Im tired of hearing how we wouldnt know how to use them...they are ready now and it shows. I would have loved moving up for Gibbs as well. And this is not hindsight...i was all over these guys.

I kid you not...that toss from herbert on that TD was a change up. He took a little off that.

[Duck of Death]

Absolutely should be the 3rd WR to start the season. He and Palmer are totally different guys with different roles. This was the draft to take a guy that compliments Mike and Keenan. And gets deep. A little joystick twitchy fella. This is why i was so heavy on Addison/Flowers and Gibbs at RB. This team needs that HR hitter type to compliment Allen and MW. Has nothing to do with the WR room and depth chart. It has to do with 11 personnel packages and scaring the shit out of teams with a 3 headed hydra that is unrecoverable with 3 guys that need 5-6 guys to contain. QJ is 1v1 and doesnt do much. Even on the PIs today those balls bounced off his hands. He is not scaring anyone. Just the way it is right now and the window was this year given the cap hell we put ourselves in next year. I just dont think he was the right pick. Honestly. Not for this year at least and i really felt that with Mikes injury history we needed a guy that could step up if he went down. Not a raw player who is meant to come in after one of our guys is cut. I wanted firepower this year. And only Mike stretches the field until Guyton gets back.

Addison was the right pick there. Just the way i feel about it. Kincaid or Flowers help immensely as they are NFL ready. Im tired of hearing how we wouldnt know how to use them...they are ready now and it shows. I would have loved moving up for Gibbs as well. And this is not hindsight...i was all over these guys.

I kid you not...that toss from herbert on that TD was a change up. He took a little off that.

I was puzzled with QJ’s lack of use in slants, but now I can maybe see why - shaky hands over the middle of a defense makes for a risky proposition. Ain’t tryin to pile on the young man, but he needs to get back to the lab and put some serious work in. His upper body remains stiff as a board throughout much of his route running. I know I’m not the only one noticing this. Vs NYJ Sauce smeared him when they were matchup up and it’s not hard to see why. I still wouldn’t bet against him eventually getting there, but his arrival sure doesn’t feel imminent.

[Fleet 1]

I was puzzled with QJ’s lack of use in slants, but now I can maybe see why - shaky hands over the middle of a defense makes for a risky proposition. Ain’t tryin to pile on the young man, but he needs to get back to the lab and put some serious work in. His upper body remains stiff as a board throughout much of his route running. I know I’m not the only one noticing this. Vs NYJ Sauce smeared him when they were matchup up and it’s not hard to see why. I still wouldn’t bet against him eventually getting there, but his arrival sure doesn’t feel imminent.

He struggles to stay upright on routes also. Loses his footing and slips a ton. He is just off. I read on the last day of camp....coming off a camp with a ton of drops...that he chose not to work on the juggs machine with Keenan and Mike. I wonder how much time he does spent on Juggs? And if he doesnt is it because he is embarrassed of how difficult he makes it look? Steve Smith pointed out pre draft that it would be a huge problem for him. Former stud WRs are pretty good at seeing when a player does the easy stuff well and relies on it too much. Pros always separate the men from the boys. I like that...he needs to get in the lab.

[Fleet 1]

[dmac_bolt]

Absolutely should be the 3rd WR to start the season. He and Palmer are totally different guys with different roles. This was the draft to take a guy that compliments Mike and Keenan. And gets deep. A little joystick twitchy fella. This is why i was so heavy on Addison/Flowers and Gibbs at RB. This team needs that HR hitter type to compliment Allen and MW. Has nothing to do with the WR room and depth chart. It has to do with 11 personnel packages and scaring the shit out of teams with a 3 headed hydra that is unrecoverable with 3 guys that need 5-6 guys to contain. QJ is 1v1 and doesnt do much. Even on the PIs today those balls bounced off his hands. He is not scaring anyone. Just the way it is right now and the window was this year given the cap hell we put ourselves in next year. I just dont think he was the right pick. Honestly. Not for this year at least and i really felt that with Mikes injury history we needed a guy that could step up if he went down. Not a raw player who is meant to come in after one of our guys is cut. I wanted firepower this year. And only Mike stretches the field until Guyton gets back.

Addison was the right pick there. Just the way i feel about it. Kincaid or Flowers help immensely as they are NFL ready. Im tired of hearing how we wouldnt know how to use them...they are ready now and it shows. I would have loved moving up for Gibbs as well. And this is not hindsight...i was all over these guys.

I kid you not...that toss from herbert on that TD was a change up. He took a little off that.

That was my pitch for Flowers before the draft. the perfect compliment and the most pro-ready.

That said, Q is our guy now. He's coming on. 4-4 RECs, 1 TD plus two big PI draws all helped the offense notably on Sunday. I put zero blame if a guy drops a ball he is interfered on, its fine. Herbert is starting to look at and go to him more, I expect him to build on last week in GB. DBs are still jamming him at the LOS more than most, as he learns to beat those jams he will get even better. Moore could do a favor and get him in motion and off of off the LOS on more plays too in the meantime - like what they do with Hill effectively in MIA.

[Fleet 1]

That was my pitch for Flowers before the draft. the perfect compliment and the most pro-ready.

That said, Q is our guy now. He's coming on. 4-4 RECs, 1 TD plus two big PI draws all helped the offense notably on Sunday. I put zero blame if a guy drops a ball he is interfered on, its fine. Herbert is starting to look at and go to him more, I expect him to build on last week in GB. DBs are still jamming him at the LOS more than most, as he learns to beat those jams he will get even better. Moore could do a favor and get him in motion and off of off the LOS on more plays too in the meantime - like what they do with Hill effectively in MIA.

He was also open on a ton of underneath stuff....but Herbert chose the more difficult throws to Keenan. I do think there are trust issues with Justin. He needs to get over it and just play his game. If they bounce off QJ they bounce. So be it. He lets up on throws so they are not coming in so hot...he also has to fit it in an area that QJ will be able to scoop it. Just throw it bro and play your game. Dont change for a WR. You still want a guy that can catch a ball in the general vicinity. Allows your QB not to worry about his throw to a particular guy. Its the equivalent of throwing a pitch underhand because a hitter can hit a fastball. He needs to develop his skillset. Thats fine....he might be fine long term. But i wanted instant help with serious long term upside and ceiling. I didnt really expect Addson and Flowers to show legit #1 skills. And im mainly referring to Addison right now. Kincaid is also just a total stud. I really would not mind using a first on Bowers if he is there. And id think about moving up into the late 1st or early 2 for Sanders. He may climb like Kincaid and Laporta did. If we end up with a coach like Ben Johnson TE will be an important piece. As much as we need defense i still dont mind beefing the hell out of this offense.

[gzubeck]

He was also open on a ton of underneath stuff....but Herbert chose the more difficult throws to Keenan. I do think there are trust issues with Justin. He needs to get over it and just play his game. If they bounce off QJ they bounce. So be it. He lets up on throws so they are not coming in so hot...he also has to fit it in an area that QJ will be able to scoop it. Just throw it bro and play your game. Dont change for a WR. You still want a guy that can catch a ball in the general vicinity. Allows your QB not to worry about his throw to a particular guy. Its the equivalent of throwing a pitch underhand because a hitter can hit a fastball. He needs to develop his skillset. Thats fine....he might be fine long term. But i wanted instant help with serious long term upside and ceiling. I didnt really expect Addson and Flowers to show legit #1 skills. And im mainly referring to Addison right now. Kincaid is also just a total stud. I really would not mind using a first on Bowers if he is there. And id think about moving up into the late 1st or early 2 for Sanders. He may climb like Kincaid and Laporta did. If we end up with a coach like Ben Johnson TE will be an important piece. As much as we need defense i still dont mind beefing the hell out of this offense.

No worries...question is can they hold up in the NFL? QJ looks like he will play more games per season.

[Heatmiser]

Absolutely should be the 3rd WR to start the season. He and Palmer are totally different guys with different roles. This was the draft to take a guy that compliments Mike and Keenan. And gets deep. A little joystick twitchy fella. This is why i was so heavy on Addison/Flowers and Gibbs at RB. This team needs that HR hitter type to compliment Allen and MW. Has nothing to do with the WR room and depth chart. It has to do with 11 personnel packages and scaring the shit out of teams with a 3 headed hydra that is unrecoverable with 3 guys that need 5-6 guys to contain. QJ is 1v1 and doesnt do much. Even on the PIs today those balls bounced off his hands. He is not scaring anyone. Just the way it is right now and the window was this year given the cap hell we put ourselves in next year. I just dont think he was the right pick. Honestly. Not for this year at least and i really felt that with Mikes injury history we needed a guy that could step up if he went down. Not a raw player who is meant to come in after one of our guys is cut. I wanted firepower this year. And only Mike stretches the field until Guyton gets back.

Addison was the right pick there. Just the way i feel about it. Kincaid or Flowers help immensely as they are NFL ready. Im tired of hearing how we wouldnt know how to use them...they are ready now and it shows. I would have loved moving up for Gibbs as well. And this is not hindsight...i was all over these guys.

I kid you not...that toss from herbert on that TD was a change up. He took a little off that.

I just don't think Telesco values smaller, quicker WRs like you describe. He wants the big, slow guys.

TG