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  • ArtistFormerlyKnownAsBKR
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    #13
    Yes.

    We owe it to Rivers and Gates to put the best players we can get at positions of need (which will still be positions of need after Rivers retires) to help them win now. I'm not saying you don't think about the future at QB but not in the first three rounds this year. Put a good wall around Rivers and extend his career and enhance his productivity...something we didn't do for LT as his skills diminished.

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    • KNSD
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      #14
      Fortunately the team can get the best player available AND get a pick for need. 4-12 does that for you.

      Rivers is definitely on the downside of his career, but picking up a QB this year may be one year too soon. IMO five years of high level play is optimistic for him, but the team can evaluate Rivers at the end of each season and see where he is before deciding to move on.
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      • SDFan
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        #15
        Originally posted by Bolt-O View Post
        No, if they traded him immediately for picks.
        ^^^THIS^^^ x INFINITY. If TT could pull off the kind of trade like AJ did when we drafted Sheli and then immediately traded him for a jackpot I'd say do it. HOWEVER- NOTHING I've seen from the John Spanos led football operations side tells me they are capable of pulling this off.

        Besides, they've cemented all their eggs into the Rivers basket entrenched as our starter until he dies and won't even consider developing anybody else. They always go with a 2nd/3rd tier vet behind Rivers as the #2 QB so "we can keep winning if Rivers can't go". We never carry 3 QBs so no room for a developmental guy you want to groom to replace Rivers.
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        • Mister Hoarse
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          #16
          Originally posted by KNSD View Post
          Fortunately the team can get the best player available AND get a pick for need. 4-12 does that for you.

          Rivers is definitely on the downside of his career, but picking up a QB this year may be one year too soon. IMO five years of high level play is optimistic for him, but the team can evaluate Rivers at the end of each season and see where he is before deciding to move on.
          Downside my ass. Watch Rivers tear up the NFL without the weapons other QBs have, and no OL.
          Dean Spanos Should Get Ass Cancer Of The Ass!
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          • Steve
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            #17
            Originally posted by KNSD View Post
            Fortunately the team can get the best player available AND get a pick for need. 4-12 does that for you.

            Rivers is definitely on the downside of his career, but picking up a QB this year may be one year too soon. IMO five years of high level play is optimistic for him, but the team can evaluate Rivers at the end of each season and see where he is before deciding to move on.
            It's not uncommon for QB to play at a high level into their late 30's. 4-5 years is not out of the question for Rivers, especially if we start running the ball more with Gordon, which appears to be the plan.

            Wentz would be a FA in 5 years, and even if he has played some by then (given Rivers track record is unlikely), will he have had enough time to establish himself as a starter who is worth $20-$25 milion a year, because this offseason has established that is the price for aspiring QB. Drafting Wentz is basically planning for us to lose this pick with no hope of getting anything out of it, unless we can turn around and trade him quick.

            Trading a player immediately after being drafted doesn't happen in the NFL draft very often. It did with Rivers, but that was just because the details of trade were not quite worked out, but it was all worked out except the details. Teams have had plenty of time to make a trade. We have advertised with everyone we are willing to deal. But no one is going to make the huge trades like they did for RG3 and trades like that. So, if we want to trade out, we have to settle for fewer, less juicy picks. IMHO, that is still worth it, but teams are not so desperate for QB that they will mortgage the farm.

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            • mdl4483
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              #18
              What if you could get Paxton Lynch in the second?

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              • bonehead
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                #19
                Originally posted by mdl4483 View Post
                What if you could get Paxton Lynch in the second?
                that might be hard to pass up......as a "win now" guy I would like to dangle Lynch for picks out to the teams that passed on Wentz/Goff in the first...perhaps Eagles, Niners or Rams
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                • Mister Hoarse
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                  #20
                  There will be other QBs next draft and beyond. As long as McCompetence is here, we will be drafting near the top.
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                  • oneinchpunch
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                    #21
                    Draft the best player available that can help this team for the next decade. Regardless of position.

                    This team is drafting #3 for a reason and isn't a few players away from changing that
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                    • RTPbolt
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                      #22
                      I dont think we have to get a qb this year based on Rivers generally great health and his track record in his 30s. But if its BAA and you go by that methodology and a franchize qb is there....what do you do? Hopefully trade down! Its a good problem to have.

                      I hope for Bosa or Tunsil or Ramsey or Buckner.

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                      • Steve
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                        #23
                        Originally posted by mdl4483 View Post
                        What if you could get Paxton Lynch in the second?
                        We would only have him for 4 years, since only 1st round picks have option years on their contracts now. You would have to play him by end of year 2 or so, because why would he want to come back and play for us if he isn't starting or we don't offer him a dump truck full of money. Unproven, young QB are getting close to $20 mill per season.
                        Last edited by Steve; 03-28-2016, 10:08 PM.

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                        • Steve
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                          #24
                          Originally posted by oneinchpunch View Post
                          Draft the best player available that can help this team for the next decade. Regardless of position.

                          This team is drafting #3 for a reason and isn't a few players away from changing that
                          We wouldn't have a rookie for the next decade unless we ditch Rivers. If you were that player, why would you sit behind Rivers. And if you did get to play in the 3rd, 4th or 5th year of the contract and didn't fully develop (think Osweiler or Kirk Cousins), would the team be willing to invest the $20-25 million in a player that is not fully proven? Because those are the choices. You have to be willing to play them and develop them, or pay them and run the risk of them not panning out.

                          The only way drafting a young QB at the top of the draft works is if they get to play fairly soon. If they sit behind a vet, you are still in the wait and see mode when their option year comes up. But when was the last young QB who developed and looked like a sure fire franchise QB from day 1? The only guys even close are Luck and Wilson, and both guys still have people wondering if they are really the answer. Everyone else is clearly not the guys you want to give that much money, but look at the FA contracts QB got, and about $20 mill is the going rate for a POTENTIAL franchise QB (unproven variety).

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