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  • Velo
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    #37
    Originally posted by Chargers vs. Chargering View Post

    You can see the coaching regression from Year 1 to Year 3. It's not about the talent. StaleD makes no in game adjustments based on what is going on. I'm sure someone can look up the stats. A good coach makes adjustments and should have better team performance in the 2nd half. StaleD isn't cutting it.
    You can tell all that from the first game of the season? I totally agree with you, that the opening game of the season looks like a continuation of the failure of the Staley defense and dysfunction of his coaching style. It's easy to say "nothing has changed." It looked that way to me. But, you really can't come to any firm conclusions based on Week 1. That is my message in this thread.

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      #38
      Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post
      But you can judge Staley and his defense on the 34 or however many games he has coached

      its terrible
      thats a pattern that has been consistent

      and I am too lazy to look it up but my guess during the Telesco era - now year 11 - his defenses have been in the bottom third of the league in 3rd down % defense. Pagano, couldn't get off the field. Bradley, couldn't get off the field and now Staley, cannot get off the field.

      I go back to my comment, Telesco is in over his head. He has no clue how to build a roster
      You have concluded that this season is going to be a continuation of the failures of Staley based on Week 1? That is a mistake.

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        #39
        Originally posted by Velo View Post

        You can tell all that from the first game of the season? I totally agree with you, that the opening game of the season looks like a continuation of the failure of the Staley defense and dysfunction of his coaching style. It's easy to say "nothing has changed." It looked that way to me. But, you really can't come to any firm conclusions based on Week 1. That is my message in this thread.
        I agree that one game does not a season make but there is certainly cause for concern based on what we saw Sunday. We’re in year 3 of Staley’s tenure. There is very little turnover on the defense and these are Staley’s guys who should know the “complexities” of his defensive plan. Yet they all failed. Nobody on the defensive side of the ball had a good game. And defenses are supposed to be further along than offenses at the start of the season. They were clearly unprepared and couldn’t adjust to what Miami did easily all game. One punt. You’re not gonna win when the other team punts once.

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        • FoutsFan
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          #40
          Originally posted by Boltx View Post

          Does it though?

          Remember if Tua doesn't fumble the snap in the redzone or throw that INT in the endzone...it's not even a close game.

          Do Mahomes/Burrow go off even more on this defense?
          Lot of ifs there. Remember IF the Kelly picks up the blitz and we convert, if we make the FG we win.

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          • Velo
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            #41
            Originally posted by jamrock View Post

            I agree that one game does not a season make but there is certainly cause for concern based on what we saw Sunday. We’re in year 3 of Staley’s tenure. There is very little turnover on the defense and these are Staley’s guys who should know the “complexities” of his defensive plan. Yet they all failed. Nobody on the defensive side of the ball had a good game. And defenses are supposed to be further along than offenses at the start of the season. They were clearly unprepared and couldn’t adjust to what Miami did easily all game. One punt. You’re not gonna win when the other team punts once.
            You are absolutely correct. I agree with you and the guy who made this video agrees too. The defense seemed to be completely unprepared. As the guy who made this video notes, the Dolphins' offense was primarily Tua to Hill, and Staley didn't have a plan to stop either. No adjustment in the 2nd half. No sacks of Tua despite having Bosa and Mack healthy on the field, and the Dolphins having a back up LT. But it's week 1. Am I saying the Chargers' defense will not look this bad again? No I am not saying that. I hope not. All I am saying is it is week 1. They are saying the same thing in KC, Buff and Cinn this week.

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            • Eurobolt
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              #42
              BS of course you can. It is season 3 - 37th games as this BS coach as HC with healthy roster and hanpicked players.

              Tua had over 400 passing yards xD
              Miami got over 500 total yards xD

              Fire Staley

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                #43
                Originally posted by QuiteFrankly View Post
                The Dolphins might have the best offense in the NFL right now. They just attack starting on 1st down.

                It looks like the running game is better. If fact, vs. the Dolphins I don't understand with around 3 minutes or so left...we were running no-huddle. I was thinking maybe we could run the clock out. Or at least try. Oh well.

                The Chiefs lost yesterday. And I expect them to be there in the end. So yeah. Its only one game.

                Problem is, the elephant in the room. Staley. What a bummer.
                MIA & LAC are NFL numbers 1 and 2 on offense, numbers 31 and 32 on defense. We tore each other up.
                LAC may be doomed to a lot of shoot outs but not a lot of teams can match Mia's offense. Big IF- Staley can get some defense, we're still looking at a playoff slot.
                Last edited by sonorajim; 09-12-2023, 07:32 AM.

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                • QSmokey
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                  #44
                  Originally posted by richpjr View Post

                  Not so sure about that. There are an awful lot of people here addicted to Depressium. The symptoms are looking for the worst in every situation (after all that glass is half empty), the belief that every single player and coach on the team sucks and should be a greeter at Walmart, the grass is always greener with other teams coaches and players, and my favorite: the rapid typing of "Pollyana" in a Tourette Syndrome like keyboard moment every time they encounter someone on Hopium.
                  You spelled 'Pollyanna' incorrectly.

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                    #45
                    Originally posted by Eurobolt View Post
                    BS of course you can. It is season 3 - 37th games as this BS coach as HC with healthy roster and hanpicked players.

                    Tua had over 400 passing yards xD
                    Miami got over 500 total yards xD

                    Fire Staley
                    I agree with you that Week 1 is just a continuation of the same old failures and nothing has changed. I totally get that frustration. But the reality is, you can't come to any conclusions after just one game. Just like you can't conclude the Chiefs, Bills and Bengals are going to suck this season based on their Week 1 games. I'm just saying don't melt down prematurely. Save it for Week 3 or 4 if the defense still looks bad, or not.

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                    • Eurobolt
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                      #46
                      Originally posted by Velo View Post

                      I agree with you that Week 1 is just a continuation of the same old failures and nothing has changed. I totally get that frustration. But the reality is, you can't come to any conclusions after just one game. Just like you can't conclude the Chiefs, Bills and Bengals are going to suck this season based on their Week 1 games. I'm just saying don't melt down prematurely. Save it for Week 3 or 4 if the defense still looks bad, or not.
                      Year one Raiders game - he can learn he is young, he needs players to his scheme.

                      Year two - injuries, 27-0, wining vs only 1 team above 0.500

                      Both years defence was a disaster. I changed my mind about Staley when he kept injuried Herbert on a field risking future of franchise when we were getting blown.

                      Year three - everyone healthy on one of the most expensive defences in NFL and we are laughing stocks. He is not a good DC he ia not a good OC. He is full of himself guy who should not be HC of Chargers.

                      I am calling it now there will be no changes to how defence os playing, does not matter wk3 wk4 or wk 15.

                      He cannot fix it on 37 games what makes you believe he can do it in next 2 or 3?

                      P.s. Bills, Bengals and especially Chiefs have proven over past couple of years they have competent staff and good players thats opposite to Chargers.

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                        #47
                        Originally posted by Eurobolt View Post

                        Year one Raiders game - he can learn he is young, he needs players to his scheme.

                        Year two - injuries, 27-0, wining vs only 1 team above 0.500

                        Both years defence was a disaster. I changed my mind about Staley when he kept injuried Herbert on a field risking future of franchise when we were getting blown.

                        Year three - everyone healthy on one of the most expensive defences in NFL and we are laughing stocks. He is not a good DC he ia not a good OC. He is full of himself guy who should not be HC of Chargers.

                        I am calling it now there will be no changes to how defence os playing, does not matter wk3 wk4 or wk 15.

                        He cannot fix it on 37 games what makes you believe he can do it in next 2 or 3?

                        P.s. Bills, Bengals and especially Chiefs have proven over past couple of years they have competent staff and good players thats opposite to Chargers.
                        I don't disagree with anything you say here. But I just heard a phrase on GMF - Week one is a liar. And am just cautioning people against passing judgment after Week 1.

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                        • QSmokey
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                          #48
                          Originally posted by BayAreaBoltz View Post

                          Well, most of this board is addicted to Hopium. The first step is admitting it, so well done.
                          Actually, there's a much more dangerous form of the drug that this board is addicted to: False Hopium. Much harder to kick.
                          Last edited by QSmokey; 09-12-2023, 01:44 PM.

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