Joshua Perry

[Boltjolt]

Te'o hasn't been the reason we've been losing. Look at the o and d lines for the losers.

Very true but some in here act like Te'o is the culprit and to that ive been saying what the hell have you been watching to come to that conclusion? The DL has been crap. Im sure glad they let Reyes walk.

[chargerkdb]

Clearly there are some on here that feel he should get a 2nd contract, there are others who feel he needs to show more if capable. Let's revisit the conversation toward the end of the season. Some folks appear too emotionally attached to the situation and I really don't won't to be personally slated for my opinion.

[6025]

Clearly there are some on here that feel he should get a 2nd contract, there are others who feel he needs to show more if capable. Let's revisit the conversation toward the end of the season. Some folks appear too emotionally attached to the situation and I really don't won't to be personally slated for my opinion.

It's my opinion you're the one who is emotionally attached. You can't name a specific alternative to Te'o other than "replace him with anyone". Most everyone else feels this year he should get a chance as he statistically played well. I myself admitted injuries are a concern. But it seems to me you want him ousted now.

[bonehead]

wait? people here are "emotionally attached" to this team and it's players?

CUT IT OUT!!!!!

[OhioBolt]

Can we agree Teo is an average player, and Teo calling plays is some what over-stated, most play calls come from the sideline, and then comes the in play adjustment of re-positioning D-lineman and defensive audible, Weddle was doing this for us for years from the safety position and as we know last year he was falling out of favor with the organization and some one had to be the play caller or relay the play called in. It is just reality there is room for improvement at his position because he is average, right now he is the starter, right now he has more system knowledge and game experience than the players behind him. If nobody steps up Teo is the starter, but when he was injured I don't think we were like in despair because we are like oh no we have nobody to put in, this was not the case we put in Kavell Conner who is average player was there a big drop off?

I would say yes he is somebody you would want on the roster and if somebody surpasses him as a starter you have a backup. Don't break the bank for this type of player, but all players think they are better than what they are getting paid.

[Mister Hoarse]

There is not that big a difference between an average starting ILB and a pro bowl/all pro ILB, other than one is paid a lot of money and the other isn't. Back in the day, when NFL teams played a lot of 2 backs or 2 TE and ran the ball a ton, then an ILB/MLB could be a real factor. Now, LB who are a jack of all trade types. If they are good enough to be a factor in the running game, then teams will make them spread out and cover. An ILB isn't going to make that many impact plays if they chase a back or TE in coverage. You need a minimum level of proficiency, but once you get past that, there is not that much difference between the best and the next caliber of guys.

Let Teo play out his contract. If he steps up, and finally shows he is going to get healthy and play at the level he shows at the end of each season, then give him and extension.

No matter how well he plays, no ILB is worth being paid at a really high level. It's just a waste of money these days. We might be able to justify a somewhat higher amount than the average, but not too much. Oakland, KC, and Denver are all trying to run more than the norm and score off of play action. But again, the guys who force big plays are the CB who force QB to make second and 3rd reads or pass rushers who force wild throws that can be picked off. ILB just don't make enough of those plays, and a lot of the ones that guys do force, are really luck. ILB are around the ball, so they get their fair share. Spending a ton of money for a guy is just not a good way to build the roster, especially with guys like Ingram and Attaochu creeping near the end of their rookie deals too.

There is just not a big enough difference in the top ILB play and a solid ILB play. You can find guys who give you nearly the production, without paying anywhere near the money. That lets us spend the money at other positions. Positions that make splash plays that can win games.

I agree with what you are saying, but what do you think TT's mindset was in locking up Butler with the big $?, or have philosophies changed that much in 2 years?

[OhioBolt]

I agree with what you are saying, but what do you think TT's mindset was in locking up Butler with the big $?, or have philosophies changed that much in 2 years?

Good question I hope TT has learned from the past two years Butler before the extension made more plays in his career versus what Teo has done and Butler had his share of injuries also. Time well tell Butler back then was the best ILB we had among our others who were below average big drop-off.

[Boltjolt]

I'd say Weddle was making the secondary calls

[Boltjolt]

I agree with what you are saying, but what do you think TT's mindset was in locking up Butler with the big $?, or have philosophies changed that much in 2 years?

I think at the time retaining Butler was was a priority in here for most so not sure we can blame TT. it's always easy to do when he underperforms since his new contract but many here thought resigning him was a must.

[Lightningwill_420]

I think at the time retaining Butler was was a priority in here for most so not sure we can blame TT. it's always easy to do when he underperforms since his new contract but many here thought resigning him was a must.

I didn't think we should keep Butler, and I do blame Telesco for that gaffe. Telesco also shouldn't have extended Luiget's contract.

[Boltjolt]

I didn't think we should keep Butler, and I do blame Telesco for that gaffe. Telesco also shouldn't have extended Luiget's contract.

Agree on Luiget.

[Lightningwill_420]

Agree on Luiget.

It's as if he never watched these guys play. Luiget and Butler were bad signings.
Telesco seems pretty good at drafts but, so far, lousy at judging guys who have already played in the NFL. The only exception is tackle. Dude has a knack for finding tackles through free agency.