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Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
LOL.
We still don't know what "epic" means exactly.
When was the last time the Chargers had play action that actually fooled anyone?1- #11 Bowers TE 7a- #225 Boyd DT
2a- #35 Cooper LB 7b- #253 Vidal RB
2b- #37 Jenkins DT
3a- #66 Puni OT
3b- #69 Sainristill CB
4a- #105 Rice WR
4b- #110 Lloyd RB
5- #140 Green CB
6- #181 Nourzad C/OG
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Originally posted by jamrock View Post
"Epic" means high points low turnovers and it doesn't matter if it's run or pass. Per Roman1- #11 Bowers TE 7a- #225 Boyd DT
2a- #35 Cooper LB 7b- #253 Vidal RB
2b- #37 Jenkins DT
3a- #66 Puni OT
3b- #69 Sainristill CB
4a- #105 Rice WR
4b- #110 Lloyd RB
5- #140 Green CB
6- #181 Nourzad C/OG
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Originally posted by Chargers8491 View Post
I can only speak for myself. For me, it's not just about getting a weapon so badly but being able to get a true RT later in the draft. If they trade down, they can get a weapon with the 1st pick and a true RT with the 2nd pick.
I'm not a big fan of taking a LT that will be converted to a RT with the first pick. To me that is not good value when you can get a true RT later in the draft.
My personal opinion: If we're staying at #5 I think it will be either Joe Alt or Rome Odunze, neither of whom I have any issue with. Both of them are fine players.
If we move down to #11, your guess is as good as mine, with Taliese Fuaga, one of the pass-rushers, or Brock Bowers in the mix. My preference in that scenario is a pass-rusher, but I would be very happy with Fuaga. Bowers is a good player, but I think we're better off going in a different direction.
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did Marvin ever beat Jim ??
isn't one of the reasons Palmer got drafted as early as he did, coz he beat Surtain long for a TD ??
didn't QJ put on a show against Michigan ??
do run first teams win Super Bowls ??
was the most glaring omission from our O of late, a lack of mid range lasers and longballs from JH10 ??5/11 Fuaga, 37 Kamari Lassiter, 40 Sinnott, 67 Bralen Trice, 69 Cedric Gray, 105 Jaylen Wright, 110 Braelon Allen, 140 Joe Milton, 181 Khristian Boyd, Tylan Grable, 225 Daijun Edwards, 253 Miyan Williams
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Originally posted by UtahBolt View PostTwo things to consider that I have seen get lost over the past few pages.
1. Tannenbaum (and sounds like others, according to ESPN) believe AZ may just take a QB at 4. They want out of the Kyler deal and want/need a QB on that rookie deal. Believes they would trade Kyler for pretty cheap (Vegas?).
2. According to Florio and Simms (PFT), many GMs in the league prefer Nabors over MHJ. They are solid on that belief and have mentioned it many times.
Two things that may or may not be true but could have a dramatic impact on us if both/either are true.
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Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post
I was just listening to the Purple Daily, a Vikings podcast. I’ve listened to them for about a month now because of all this QB talk at 5 which they’ve been on for almost 2 months now and they were saying that there is talk that certain QBs have flat out told NE not to draft them…
The roster is a tire fire and they saw how Mac Jones was treated there.
Those guys probably don't know shit like most fan podcasters lol.
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Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post
I was just listening to the Purple Daily, a Vikings podcast. I’ve listened to them for about a month now because of all this QB talk at 5 which they’ve been on for almost 2 months now and they were saying that there is talk that certain QBs have flat out told NE not to draft them…
The roster is a tire fire and they saw how Mac Jones was treated there.
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Originally posted by Chargers8491 View Post
Anything that we discuss here on the draft is conjecture because none of us have no clue what's going to happen during the draft. It's just opinions.
The reason you give up the 1st rnder in 2025 is because Vikings aren't the only team looking to trade up to get a QB. In other words, they could get out bid and lose out on getting their QB because there is potentially a team that will overpay to get their QB or player. Draft history tells us this.
To beat the Vikings draft capital, NYG would have to offer up their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks... just to move up 2 spots.
Then they sit their $92m guaranteed QB... while their rookie QB tries to survive (with no offensive weapons)... and gaping holes all over their roster. That RB they were going to draft in the 2nd round (Trey Benson) is now unattainable. If that were their plan... why would they let Saquan Barkley go?
Neither the Broncos nor the Raiders have the draft capital to match Vikings #11 and #23. They would have to trade away their 2025 1st round pick + others to move ahead of Vikings. Has TT ever traded away a future 1st round pick? Is that the way Polian operates? Denver already traded away current/future picks for Russell Wilson. How did that work out...?
And if any of this happens (very doubtful) then the Cardinals hand the most covetted player in college football to the Chargers... who have already pointed out how valuable the #5 pick is... should the Vikings actually outspend themselves in a bidding war (that only they are participating in)...
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Originally posted by Boltnut View Post
Not one of those other teams have the draft capital to compete with the Vikings... why would the Vikings compete against themselves?
To beat the Vikings draft capital, NYG would have to offer up their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks... just to move up 2 spots.
Then they sit their $92m guaranteed QB... while their rookie QB tries to survive (with no offensive weapons)... and gaping holes all over their roster. That RB they were going to draft in the 2nd round (Trey Benson) is now unattainable. If that were their plan... why would they let Saquan Barkley go?
Neither the Broncos nor the Raiders have the draft capital to match Vikings #11 and #23. They would have to trade away their 2025 1st round pick + others to move ahead of Vikings. Has TT ever traded away a future 1st round pick? Is that the way Polian operates? Denver already traded away current/future picks for Russell Wilson. How did that work out...?
And if any of this happens (very doubtful) then the Cardinals hand the most covetted player in college football to the Chargers... who have already pointed out how valuable the #5 pick is... should the Vikings actually outspend themselves in a bidding war (that only they are participating in)...Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....
"Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh
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