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  • Fouts2herbert
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    #22861
    Originally posted by Bolt-O View Post

    Performance level. He made 2 pro-bowls.
    His stats are nothing to write home about…how did he make two pro bowls? QJ has more TDs on less touches
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    • Bolt-O
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      #22862
      Originally posted by Fouts2herbert View Post

      His stats are nothing to write home about…how did he make two pro bowls? QJ has more TDs on less touches
      His rookie season was pretty good, and he also made it after his second season. Making the Pro Bowl 2x set him up for the Franchise Tag level performance tier. QJ didn't make the pro bowl and did not meet the snap count threshold for Tier 3, so he's getting paid at Tier 4.

      Comparatively, QJ is a bargain, but I'm sure that him getting paid 16M in 2027 is probably going to rankle some here. He still has time to earn a big contract with a great season.

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      • Velo
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        #22863
        Happy for QJ. I didn't think they would pick up his option, I thought they would let him play out his rookie contract this season then based on his performance this year make a decision whether to re-sign him. But they made this decision and I guess it means they have a high opinion of him and believe he still has a higher ceiling to reach. I'm happy to have QJ as a part of what we're all anticipating will be an elite offense starting the season. As noted, McDaniel must be a QJ believer. But they could still trade him, his total cost of this season and next is abt $21M, which is a relative bargain for the Chargers or any team acquiring him.

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        • Velo
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          #22864
          Originally posted by Bolt-O View Post
          Comparatively, QJ is a bargain, but I'm sure that him getting paid 16M in 2027 is probably going to rankle some here. He still has time to earn a big contract with a great season.
          For the remaining 2 seasons on his contract he will cost a total of just under $21M.

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          • Ghost of Quacksaw
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            #22865
            Originally posted by Velo View Post
            Happy for QJ. I didn't think they would pick up his option, I thought they would let him play out his rookie contract this season then based on his performance this year make a decision whether to re-sign him. But they made this decision and I guess it means they have a high opinion of him and believe he still has a higher ceiling to reach. I'm happy to have QJ as a part of what we're all anticipating will be an elite offense starting the season. As noted, McDaniel must be a QJ believer. But they could still trade him, his total cost of this season and next is abt $21M, which is a relative bargain for the Chargers or any team acquiring him.
            QJ is clearly valued more highly in house than he is in outhouses, like fan forums.

            No fault of his own, QJ doesn't possess the particular trait that has been missing from the Bolts' wideout room: defense stretching speed. Many here have held that against him, despite his improving notably in each of his three seasons so far. He'll never be a burner, true enough, but it's not like he hoodwinked anybody and falsely claimed to be the speed merchant that he ISN'T.

            You can't please EVERYbody, and QJ doesn't! lol

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            • jamrock
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              #22866
              Fouts2herbert, brutal when the quote button doesn't work but to respond to your "How so", yes he's a Charger at least thru 2027 because they exercised the option. if they had not done so it would have been a Zion/Oweh situation where they risk losing him

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              • Boltjolt
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                #22867
                Originally posted by Bolt-O View Post

                Performance level. He made 2 pro-bowls.
                Baltimore picked it up at 28 m?
                Trade down 2 times. Hortiz said he hopes to get more pics!

                ​30 TJ Parker, Edge / Clemson
                48. Emmanuel Pregnon, OG / Oregon
                86. Skyler Bell WR, UConn
                122. Daylen Moore, CB / Georgia
                123. Brian Parker, OG, OC, RT/ Duke
                130. Zane Durant , DT / Penn st
                204. Bryce Boettcher, LB / Oregon

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                • gzubeck
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                  #22868
                  Originally posted by jamrock View Post
                  Fouts2herbert, brutal when the quote button doesn't work but to respond to your "How so", yes he's a Charger at least thru 2027 because they exercised the option. if they had not done so it would have been a Zion/Oweh situation where they risk losing him
                  If we didn't pick up his 5th year it would have been deflating. Might as well trade him to a team who cares. At least psychologically he's got a two year runway to prove himself as an up trending player. We don't need any more holes to fill and most likely have more than enough money next season to pay him.
                  Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....

                  "Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh

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                  • Heatmiser
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                    #22869
                    First, I like QJ the person and I root for him. He seems like a good kid and he has gotten better each season. Second, I really hope that McDaniel watched his stuff and told Harbaugh and Hortiz "you guys have never used him right" and has big plans for QJ. He is very physically talented, especially on crossers and drags which for some reason neither Moore nor Roman ever would consider. He is a YAC guy not a post runner. My hopes remain high for him.
                    Like, how am I a traitor? Your team are traitors.

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                    • Fouts2herbert
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                      #22870
                      Originally posted by Bolt-O View Post

                      His rookie season was pretty good, and he also made it after his second season. Making the Pro Bowl 2x set him up for the Franchise Tag level performance tier. QJ didn't make the pro bowl and did not meet the snap count threshold for Tier 3, so he's getting paid at Tier 4.

                      Comparatively, QJ is a bargain, but I'm sure that him getting paid 16M in 2027 is probably going to rankle some here. He still has time to earn a big contract with a great season.
                      Let them get rankled, the QJ hate has gotten so dang weird and irrational to point where it's just like okay, I'm just going to ignore it because it doesn't make sense and no point in even trying to get folks to change their way of thinking...no matter how much evidence is out there to refute the whole "he's a wasted pick and a bust" stuff...

                      as for the 16mil, it's a pittance by todays standards, there are guys out there making a lot more money than that and I wouldn't trade QJ for any of them...
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                      • Fouts2herbert
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                        #22871
                        Originally posted by Velo View Post
                        Happy for QJ. I didn't think they would pick up his option, I thought they would let him play out his rookie contract this season then based on his performance this year make a decision whether to re-sign him. But they made this decision and I guess it means they have a high opinion of him and believe he still has a higher ceiling to reach. I'm happy to have QJ as a part of what we're all anticipating will be an elite offense starting the season. As noted, McDaniel must be a QJ believer. But they could still trade him, his total cost of this season and next is abt $21M, which is a relative bargain for the Chargers or any team acquiring him.
                        we have a very inexpensive WR room, like 4 years ago we were paying two guys like 45mil per year and even with this extension the APY for the entire room is probably less than 15 mil a year, no, I haven't done the math but they are all on rookie deals so it might even be less than that...

                        as for the possibility of a trade this option thing makes QJ even more attractive to anyone who would want to acquire his rights...so yeah, while I'd like to think that this means that they have committed to him going forward this could also be a way to extract higher compensation via trade from a team interested in trading for him...I guess we'll know by the end of training camp...if they don't trade him by final cutdowns then I think he's a Charger for the next two seasons...after that it's anyone's guess...
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                        • jamrock
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                          #22872
                          They wanted Zion and Oweh back but not at the prices they got from others. At least in terms of Zion, lesson learned

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