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  • dmac_bolt
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    • May 2019
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    #1021
    Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

    Mahomes also cost the Chiefs a 2018 FRP - not just a late round 1 and round 3.
    Chiefs swapped their 2017 #21 1 for Bills #10 1 to move up - the 2017 Rd3 and 2018 Rd1 was the cost to get that swap. guess it all depends on what the point of the calculation is - is it the total investment or "extra" cost. both are right depending on perspective.
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    • FoutsFan
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      • Feb 2019
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      #1022
      Originally posted by northerner View Post
      can't we all get along?? i knew this #5 pick was going to cause 3 months of chaos here.

      it's still february...
      There will be a lot of angry posters when the Chargers draft Bowers at 5. They will be screaming we could have had 3 average Joe's for that one all pro!

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      • Bolt4Knob
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        • Dec 2019
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        #1023
        Originally posted by northerner View Post
        can't we all get along?? i knew this #5 pick was going to cause 3 months of chaos here.

        it's still february...
        All is good - everybody has the same goal - just may have different ways of getting there - the goal is the same : run off a string of AFCWest titles like the Chiefs and get a trophy or two
        opinions vary-- which is good

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        • dmac_bolt
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          #1024
          Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

          On a board teeming with whismsical machine mocks,
          I proposed a hypothetical mock draft designed to facilitate discusion of prospects.

          Hopefully many of you will begin to look at more and more videos of these prospects playing football.

          The value to this board would come from having more and more eyes on prospects, and posting detailed takes.

          There is nothing stopping posters from "doing better."

          Pundits, let alone posters, do not know what is going to happen.
          I was able to complete this mock without watching any tape at all ...

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          • northerner
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            • Mar 2019
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            #1025
            Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

            All is good - everybody has the same goal - just may have different ways of getting there - the goal is the same : run off a string of AFCWest titles like the Chiefs and get a trophy or two
            opinions vary-- which is good
            yeah, i know. some guys love a good go-round here. all part of the fun. just not my cup of tea !!

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            • wu-dai clan
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              • May 2017
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              #1026
              Originally posted by Lone Bolt View Post

              What I been sayin'...when its for a QB early in round 1, throw the chart out the window...hope it works out that way...we could really feast come draft day...
              Some talk "points" as in precision draft chart trade value.
              Some make "points" as in Trey Lance vs Patrick Mahomes.

              So who is gonna take the riser JJ McCarthy @ #5 ?

              The draft is to build a roster, moreso than achieve absolute trade value, and manuevers involve ludgement calls in building an overall roster.

              We do actually have experts in the Charger draft room, namely Chad Alexander and Corey Krawiec , to keep Hortiz well informed, in all aspects, on the fly.

              But generally speaking, Joe Hortiz and I are going to gitter done.
              HowellER KlareTE FarmerOG M'baDT TollisonC 4.3.26

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              • Bolt4Knob
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                • Dec 2019
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                #1027
                Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                I was able to complete this mock without watching any tape at all ...

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                do you have the website name? link please

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                • wu-dai clan
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                  #1028
                  NFLDraftScout has recently moved JCP all the way up to #16 prospect.
                  HowellER KlareTE FarmerOG M'baDT TollisonC 4.3.26

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                  • Lone Bolt
                    Oline-Tip of the Spear...
                    • Feb 2019
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                    #1029
                    Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                    I was able to complete this mock without watching any tape at all ...

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                    Evidently, whoever programmed the player values into that mock havn't watched tape either, lol...wish the draft fell like that...
                    2026 Post combine Sig Mock 2.0

                    1. Blake Miller G/T Clemson
                    2. Gabe Jacas Edge Illinois
                    3. Jalon Kilgore DB South Carolina
                    4. Zane Durant DT Penn State
                    6. Jager Burton G/C Kentucky


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                    • Bolt4Knob
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                      #1030
                      QUOTE=Lone Bolt;n1641037]

                      Evidently, whoever programmed the player values into that mock havn't watched tape either, lol...wish the draft fell like that...[/QUOTE]

                      Found the website - my attempt - no trades:
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                        Marvin Harrison Jr.
                        WR Ohio State
                      • 37.


                        Byron Murphy II
                        DT Texas
                      • 69.


                        Sedrick Van Pran
                        OC Georgia
                      • 105.


                        Will Shipley
                        RB Clemson
                      • 138.


                        Tommy Eichenberg
                        LB Ohio State
                      • 182.


                        Quinton *******
                        CB Nebraska
                      • 222.


                        A.J. Barner
                        TE Michigan
                      • 255.


                        Rasheen Ali
                        RB Marshall
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                      • Boltjolt
                        Dont let the PBs fool ya
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                        #1031
                        Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                        Did Harbaugh say he was the best QB in the draft or the best QB at Michigan in the history of the team. Meaning as a college QB - McCarthy was the best.
                        The bolded

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                        • Boltjolt
                          Dont let the PBs fool ya
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                          #1032
                          Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                          Prove it. Since the Jimmy Johnson trade chart came into being - find a team that traded the 5th pick in the draft for 82% of value

                          If one values Mack as a late 4th rounder - the Chargers are sending out 1740 of value based on the model

                          The Chargers would be receiving 1440 of value - per the model

                          This is not trading a 3rd rounder for an extra 5th and getting 95% of value. You want to trade a top 5 pick -- and the gap between 5 and 19 is probably greater than 19 and 34 (if not 19 to 50) -for 82% of perceived value.
                          I agree with Wu. The draft chart is a guide and teams dont follow that to a T. If they really want something, they will offer more and some teams have their own draft value that some guys in the know have said in the past.

                          There is more than one draft chart out there. You can google it and you will see another type or two.

                          Value is in the eyes of individuals. You think giving Mack away for a 2025 5th is cool. Some other GM might think he is worth more and hand us a 2024 4th, maybe a 3rdor a 2025 3rd plus a 2024 5th ...whatever it is. Im just spitballing here.

                          I didnt think Charlie Whitehurst was worth a shit, but Seattle gave us a 3rd...or traded us spots in round 2 or both...i dont recall. I was stunned. whichever it was, to me he wasnt worth it but ill take it. I doubt any other team would have done that for him.

                          We shall see. Things will happen, we just dont know what yet.

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