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  • Bolt4Knob
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    #16417
    Originally posted by Heatmiser View Post

    Very smart. I agree.
    And Warren as well, the only two players I would trade up in the First Round for
    Granted, Warren probably costs a second and unless he is the second coming of Kellen Winslow -- that might be a bit steep

    But Edge, RB, IOL, IDL, even CB - I think has pretty good depth
    Loveland and Warren seem to be a cut above
    In fact, for this Chargers team, WArren might be the player I would want most from the draft after a guy like Abdul Carter.

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    • Ghost of Quacksaw
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      #16418
      Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

      Agree, nothing is binary (related to this topic, not going further )

      As to Hortiz's significant superiority, applying the normal TT post mortem beliefs often posted

      Rd 1 Alt - thats a no-brainer, does not even count. Any monkey would have thrown a dart to pick the most obvious BPA
      Rd 2 Ladd - he traded up to get him, he should get a good player. I suspect he read my pre-draft posts as well, and he never called to thank me!
      Rd 3 - Did not play
      Rd 4 - Did not play
      ----------------------------
      Rd 5 - two maybe's , neither are certain starter material so who knows.
      Rd 6 - looked like a jag in year 1
      Rd 7- MASSIVE WHIFF!

      If Joe's 3 and 4 picks play this year and are effective contributors to the team, 2024 was a great draft. If they don't - its a sub-avg draft. its that simple. Bricks and/or Crowns are premature.
      I guess I'm more impressed with the two 5th round CBs than you are. They were immediate contributors and mostly played very well. I am definitely NOT accustomed to seeing that kind of productivity from Bolts' 5th rounders.

      Also, if you're going to massively miss, I'm thinking that the 7th round is where you want that to happen. 7th rounders are, by-and-large, only a hair's breadth better than UDFAs. So I'm not inclined to dis-credit Joe for his final round picks, particularly since Brenden Rice was essentially red-shirted.

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      • Bolt4Knob
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        #16419
        Originally posted by Ghost of Quacksaw View Post

        I guess I'm more impressed with the two 5th round CBs than you are. They were immediate contributors and mostly played very well. I am definitely NOT accustomed to seeing that kind of productivity from Bolts' 5th rounders.

        Also, if you're going to massively miss, I'm thinking that the 7th round is where you want that to happen. 7th rounders are, by-and-large, only a hair's breadth better than UDFAs. So I'm not inclined to dis-credit Joe for his final round picks, particularly since Brenden Rice was essentially red-shirted.
        Agreed -- if Eboigbe or Colson take a step forward and the other four continue to be starters - I think getting 5 contributors is a solid draft class

        Who knows, Rice might actually have some value this year,. How long was Kassim Osbood a core special teamer - many years.

        Good cap management is getting 5 to 6 players every year from combination of the draft and the udfa market. If you can get those players every year just not on the roster but contributing meaningful snaps, it allows greater cap flexibility and depth to the roster

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        • Boltjolt
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          #16420
          Originally posted by Ghost of Quacksaw View Post

          I guess I'm more impressed with the two 5th round CBs than you are. They were immediate contributors and mostly played very well. I am definitely NOT accustomed to seeing that kind of productivity from Bolts' 5th rounders.

          Also, if you're going to massively miss, I'm thinking that the 7th round is where you want that to happen. 7th rounders are, by-and-large, only a hair's breadth better than UDFAs. So I'm not inclined to dis-credit Joe for his final round picks, particularly since Brenden Rice was essentially red-shirted.
          Agree, nobody here is lol. Still likely moves to the slot full time after acquiring two in FA that play outside and im sure we will draft at least one more CB.

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          • dmac_bolt
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            #16421
            Originally posted by Ghost of Quacksaw View Post

            I guess I'm more impressed with the two 5th round CBs than you are. They were immediate contributors and mostly played very well. I am definitely NOT accustomed to seeing that kind of productivity from Bolts' 5th rounders.

            Also, if you're going to massively miss, I'm thinking that the 7th round is where you want that to happen. 7th rounders are, by-and-large, only a hair's breadth better than UDFAs. So I'm not inclined to dis-credit Joe for his final round picks, particularly since Brenden Rice was essentially red-shirted.
            I’m impressed with the signs from the 5th rounders but they are sandwiched between 3&4 and 6 & two 7s. Tarheeb looks like a big get but Hart was up and down, tbd if he is more than DB group rotational contributor. He definitely could be. 5 other picks have not delivered yet. Vidal is a JAG not much different than the line of JAG RBs. TT picked. he has a decent chance to hang onto the back of the roster just because we didn’t resign our top 2 RBs last year, but so far he’s a JAG. Rice was horrible in preseason games (our only game visibility of him so far), and Johnson was cut. UDFA class produced nothing.

            All that aside, as I agree 7ths are usually misses - unless the 3rd and (or?) 4th produce this year, it’s not a great draft. That’s just the rule, I didn’t make it up , I think Colson will be 100% legit this year, not as sure on the DT. I am not saying it was not a great draft, i am saying its too soon to crown his ass
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            • Bolt4Knob
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              #16422
              Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

              I’m impressed with the signs from the 5th rounders but they are sandwiched between 3&4 and 6 & two 7s. Tarheeb looks like a big get but Hart was up and down, tbd if he is more than DB group rotational contributor. He definitely could be. 5 other picks have not delivered yet. Vidal is a JAG not much different than the line of JAG RBs. TT picked. he has a decent chance to hang onto the back of the roster just because we didn’t resign our top 2 RBs last year, but so far he’s a JAG. Rice was horrible in preseason games (our only game visibility of him so far), and Johnson was cut. UDFA class produced nothing.

              All that aside, as I agree 7ths are usually misses - unless the 3rd and (or?) 4th produce this year, it’s not a great draft. That’s just the rule, I didn’t make it up , I think Colson will be 100% legit this year, not as sure on the DT. I am not saying it was not a great draft, i am saying its too soon to crown his ass
              I agree that either Eboigbe or Colson, if not both, need to play meaningful snaps, positive snaps.

              Popper said it on his "chad" last night - the staff is still high on Eboigbe.

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              • Ghost of Quacksaw
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                #16423
                Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                I’m impressed with the signs from the 5th rounders but they are sandwiched between 3&4 and 6 & two 7s. Tarheeb looks like a big get but Hart was up and down, tbd if he is more than DB group rotational contributor. He definitely could be. 5 other picks have not delivered yet. Vidal is a JAG not much different than the line of JAG RBs. TT picked. he has a decent chance to hang onto the back of the roster just because we didn’t resign our top 2 RBs last year, but so far he’s a JAG. Rice was horrible in preseason games (our only game visibility of him so far), and Johnson was cut. UDFA class produced nothing.

                All that aside, as I agree 7ths are usually misses - unless the 3rd and (or?) 4th produce this year, it’s not a great draft. That’s just the rule, I didn’t make it up , I think Colson will be 100% legit this year, not as sure on the DT. I am not saying it was not a great draft, i am saying its too soon to crown his ass
                Rice had Easton Friggin' Stick throwing him the ball, so it's difficult for me to believe he's not capable of considerably more than we saw in a few glimpses of him last summer. I wouldn't say I'm EXPECTING Rice to make a big step up, but neither do I consider it an outlandish improbability.

                Agree that Colson has to step up this year, but I have no reason to think he WON'T. He not likely to need another appendectomy, if you know what I'm saying.

                After about Week 5, the ONLY problem with Hart's game was his proneness to concussions. I see his ceiling as considerably higher than Alohi Gilman's. Not a 'star', but a very solid player.

                There's more to come out in the wash, for certain, but IMO the early returns on this draft are promising.

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                • Bolt4Knob
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                  #16424
                  Originally posted by Ghost of Quacksaw View Post

                  Rice had Easton Friggin' Stick throwing him the ball, so it's difficult for me to believe he's not capable of considerably more than we saw in a few glimpses of him last summer. I wouldn't say I'm EXPECTING Rice to make a big step up, but neither do I consider it an outlandish improbability.

                  Agree that Colson has to step up this year, but I have no reason to think he WON'T. He not likely to need another appendectomy, if you know what I'm saying.

                  After about Week 5, the ONLY problem with Hart's game was his proneness to concussions. I see his ceiling as considerably higher than Alohi Gilman's. Not a 'star', but a very solid player.

                  There's more to come out in the wash, for certain, but IMO the early returns on this draft are promising.
                  The point you make about Rice and Stick throwing him the ball is a good one

                  Heinecke won't be worse
                  And hopefully Hortiz brings in a QB that has better skills just passing the football than Easton Stick

                  I do hope Rice has been working out this offseason - just running like 6 to 8 routes, practicing catching the ball - wash rinse repeat

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                  • CanadianBoltFan
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                    #16425
                    Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                    I agree that either Eboigbe or Colson, if not both, need to play meaningful snaps, positive snaps.

                    Popper said it on his "chad" last night - the staff is still high on Eboigbe.
                    I am skepticle on projects that arent good enough to get any snaps as I am on Bama players panning out.

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                    • Jack Burton
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                      #16426
                      Originally posted by CanadianBoltFan View Post

                      I am skepticle on projects that arent good enough to get any snaps as I am on Bama players panning out.
                      Me too, but if Minter likes him, I’m ok with it..

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                      • Bolt4Knob
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                        #16427
                        Originally posted by CanadianBoltFan View Post

                        I am skepticle on projects that arent good enough to get any snaps as I am on Bama players panning out.
                        Contracts are 4 years for a reason. Not giving up on either yet. Plus Colson had the appendix issue so giving him some leeway

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                        • CanadianBoltFan
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                          #16428
                          Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                          Contracts are 4 years for a reason. Not giving up on either yet. Plus Colson had the appendix issue so giving him some leeway
                          If you were making the pick in round 4 do you pick him or one of the centers sitting there in a strong center class?

                          Colson we give a redshirt year but when he played his numbers were at the VERY bottom of NFL LB rankings so hopefully he comes in healthy this year and makes a huge jump

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