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  • dmac_bolt
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    • May 2019
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    #23281
    Originally posted by CanadianBoltFan View Post

    Kind of what I was getting at with the plane question
    Just didn’t make sense
    1. Philly ain’t gonna make a move until June 1, they didn’t wait this long just to get excited and splooge in their pants a couple days before a cap hit drops in half.
    2. AJ isnt driving this train. Chargers don’t need to send a plane May 22 to talk a deal with PHI front office - They got phones and zoom screens
    3. What is the point of sending a private jet to negotiate a trade at any time - is it gonna impress Howie Roseman? Lol …

    I guess the theory could be they already got a deal and they want to go pick up AJ in style? Idunno - it just seems far fetched, especially 10 days before June.
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    • Bolt-O
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      #23282
      Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

      I don't think anybody said he was washed, but I'm also not around here as much this time of the off season for OTAs or mini camps
      Yeah, the concern is that he might not be available due to injuries. I have no expectations that he would fill a TE1 on the roster, more like a 'super-sub'

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      • CanadianBoltFan
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        #23283
        Originally posted by Bolt-O View Post

        Yeah, the concern is that he might not be available due to injuries. I have no expectations that he would fill a TE1 on the roster, more like a 'super-sub'
        This is what I am talking about...the beat writer thinks it is wide open for TE1

        Some here think Njoku doesn't have much left at 29 and will be insurance as TE3. I don't think that is the case.

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        • sonorajim
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          #23284
          Originally posted by CanadianBoltFan View Post

          This is what I am talking about...the beat writer thinks it is wide open for TE1

          Some here think Njoku doesn't have much left at 29 and will be insurance as TE3. I don't think that is the case.
          I suspect that TE use will be spread around. McD will I think not want a situation where if so-and-so is on the field, this is the play.
          Njoku is very good near the end zone but OG and Kolar ain't chopped liver. Ideally, all 3 top TEs will get the ball and we can total it up after the SB.
          My guess OG is 1, Njoku 2, Kolar 3 but not by a huge difference if all are healthy.

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          • dmac_bolt
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            #23285
            Originally posted by CanadianBoltFan View Post

            This is what I am talking about...the beat writer thinks it is wide open for TE1

            Some here think Njoku doesn't have much left at 29 and will be insurance as TE3. I don't think that is the case.
            Me neither - I think he’s still in his prime window for several more years. We won’t know until we know - but I suspect efforts to evaluate him based on what he produced recently in CLE’s shitshow dysfunctional rotating scrub QB offense is a fool’s errand. You can’t measure the man from that situation.

            DJ: 384 REC, 4000 yards, 34 TDs
            Kolar: 30 Rec, 400 yards, 4 TD
            OG: 49 Rec, 664 yards, 3 TD

            And he’s the TE3? Cmon now … why? Assuming OG continues to ascend (which I do), I think Kolar is pushed to special duty short yardage situations. MM may rotate all 3 more liberally, but no way do I see DJ relegated to a TE3 backup role
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            • DerwinBosa
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              #23286
              Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post
              Me neither - I think he’s still in his prime window for several more years. We won’t know until we know - but I suspect efforts to evaluate him based on what he produced recently in CLE’s shitshow dysfunctional rotating scrub QB offense is a fool’s errand. You can’t measure the man from that situation.

              DJ: 384 REC, 4000 yards, 34 TDs
              Kolar: 30 Rec, 400 yards, 4 TD
              OG: 49 Rec, 664 yards, 3 TD

              And he’s the TE3? Cmon now … why? Assuming OG continues to ascend (which I do), I think Kolar is pushed to special duty short yardage situations. MM may rotate all 3 more liberally, but no way do I see DJ relegated to a TE3 backup role
              There is more to the position than catching passes. Kolar signed a three-year contract on March 10. Gadsden is going into his second season and looks like an ascending talent after a good rookie year. Njoku signed a one-year deal on May 11. If Njoku was expected to be ahead of Kolar on the depth chart, I think Njoku would have been signed before Kolar, not two weeks after the draft.

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              • sonorajim
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                #23287
                Originally posted by DerwinBosa View Post

                There is more to the position than catching passes. Kolar signed a three-year contract on March 10. Gadsden is going into his second season and looks like an ascending talent after a good rookie year. Njoku signed a one-year deal on May 11. If Njoku was expected to be ahead of Kolar on the depth chart, I think Njoku would have been signed before Kolar, not two weeks after the draft.
                Wasn't the Njoku timing to sign related to the comp formula or something?

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                • CanadianBoltFan
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                  #23288
                  Originally posted by sonorajim View Post

                  I suspect that TE use will be spread around. McD will I think not want a situation where if so-and-so is on the field, this is the play.
                  Njoku is very good near the end zone but OG and Kolar ain't chopped liver. Ideally, all 3 top TEs will get the ball and we can total it up after the SB.
                  My guess OG is 1, Njoku 2, Kolar 3 but not by a huge difference if all are healthy.
                  I agree with your take.

                  Good news is we have a nice 3 player TE room and they can all contribute.

                  12 personnel with Gadsden and Njoku as receiving options will be a load for defenses. Kolar will contribute also but mainly with blocking I suspect. Kolar might have been signed before Njoku but I feel confident he will be 3rd in receptions in this group.

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                  • Boltjolt
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                    #23289
                    Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                    Me neither - I think he’s still in his prime window for several more years. We won’t know until we know - but I suspect efforts to evaluate him based on what he produced recently in CLE’s shitshow dysfunctional rotating scrub QB offense is a fool’s errand. You can’t measure the man from that situation.

                    DJ: 384 REC, 4000 yards, 34 TDs
                    Kolar: 30 Rec, 400 yards, 4 TD
                    OG: 49 Rec, 664 yards, 3 TD

                    And he’s the TE3? Cmon now … why? Assuming OG continues to ascend (which I do), I think Kolar is pushed to special duty short yardage situations. MM may rotate all 3 more liberally, but no way do I see DJ relegated to a TE3 backup role
                    Here is my thinking when we talking about TE3.

                    I think Gads will start in the traditional inline TE. Kolar I think will be the TE in the 12 formation we will run often and they signed him 27 mil so he won't be standing on the sidelines. He will get plenty of snaps.

                    So I think of Njoku and Gadsden playing the same position at TE and either one can be split out if MM so desired to do that which he did with Jonnu Smith to get a LB matchup or a NB or safety matchup they might see on film.

                    Gadsden can be at TE1 next to the RT, Njoku can be split out or vice versa with Gadsden and Kolar next to the LT.

                    So when I say TE3, I really mean TE2 as regards to Gadsden. Kolar is going to play and be TE2 at his spot in the 12. He may also see some snaps at inline TE when we run the ball.

                    I am not well versed in MM schemes but at this time, this is how I see them being used. I just see Gads and Njoku rotating until DN gets dinged, which seems to happen often but I see Gads getting more snaps than him.

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                    • powderblueboy
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                      #23290
                      Originally posted by Riverwalk View Post

                      The Chargers didn’t drop that $262 million bag on Herbie for sightseeing.

                      Winning playoff games is what he’s built for and fans pay for.

                      Instead of being the team leader in OTA’s, barking signals building chemistry, he’s holding a lighter with his “this is my favorite song” face.

                      Zero playoff wins, zero OTA’s….whats next? He going to release his new dance steps on TikTok?
                      Herbert has the perfect right, and even obligation, to join his girlfriend on her tour.
                      After all, he's a nice guy.

                      But people are missing the point here. After last years flameout, would Brady do that? Of course not, he sacrificed a marriage or two to winning, and broke down in tears after losing one Super Bowl.
                      Brady is an extreme example, perhaps. Herbert doesn't have the burning fire Brady had, and that is just a fact ... no where close to it.

                      Its the self centered committed pricks of the world who come out on top.
                      That doesn't seem to be Justin, who is on tour with his girlfriend at the start of OTAs, after another disappointing post season performance dataurl985882.jpg
                      Let's hope nice guys come out on top this time.

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                      • sonorajim
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                        #23291
                        Originally posted by CanadianBoltFan View Post

                        I agree with your take.

                        Good news is we have a nice 3 player TE room and they can all contribute.

                        12 personnel with Gadsden and Njoku as receiving options will be a load for defenses. Kolar will contribute also but mainly with blocking I suspect. Kolar might have been signed before Njoku but I feel confident he will be 3rd in receptions in this group.
                        We also have 3 UDFA rookie TEs. Bradley, Pascuzzi and Svoboda. I don't expect one to make the 53 cut but prac squad, one hopefully. Something to keep an eye on. Depth is good to have.

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                        • Boltjolt
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                          #23292
                          Originally posted by powderblueboy View Post

                          Herbert has the perfect right, and even obligation, to join his girlfriend on her tour.
                          After all, he's a nice guy.

                          But people are missing the point here. After last years flameout, would Brady do that? Of course not, he sacrificed a marriage or two to winning, and broke down in tears after losing one Super Bowl.
                          Brady is an extreme example, perhaps. Herbert doesn't have the burning fire Brady had, and that is just a fact ... no where close to it.

                          Its the self centered committed pricks of the world who come out on top.
                          That doesn't seem to be Justin, who is on tour with his girlfriend at the start of OTAs, after another disappointing post season performance dataurl985882.jpg
                          Let's hope nice guys come out on top this time.
                          Why do we always act like only OUR players do this!

                          Tom Brady frequently missed voluntary workouts, particularly in the later stages of his career with both the New England Patriots and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. [1, 2, 3, 4]
                          While he was known for near-perfect attendance during the early years of his career, Brady established a routine of skipping voluntary Organized Team Activities (OTAs) and offseason workouts for several specific reasons: [1, 2, 3]
                          • Family Time: Brady often cited a desire to spend more time with his family during the offseason.

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