Greg Roman Chargers Offensive Coordinator

[Fouts2herbert]

Agreed, it should be or should’ve been Tanner Engstrand.

wasn't there a moment there when Harbaugh said that Roman would be brought in almost like an assistant HC and Engstram was being considered for OC? there was a window there when we knew Roman would be around but it wasn't done deal that he would necessarily be the OC...I don't remember now...

[jaguarmanftype]

wasn't there a moment there when Harbaugh said that Roman would be brought in almost like an assistant HC and Engstram was being considered for OC? there was a window there when we knew Roman would be around but it wasn't done deal that he would necessarily be the OC...I don't remember now...

I don't remember Harbaugh actually considering Engstrand other than just my wishful thinking being posted here before Harbaugh hired Roman. He did have a connection to Harbaugh as an assistant and analyst during Harbaugh's USD, Michigan and 49ers days, so that's where my hope came from.

[AKFlyFisher]

as far as the future with Jim Hortiz and Jim Harbaugh is concerned, yes, I'm excited too, but this is the Greg Roman thread, I need to see more from Roman to feel like he's going to be in future plans for this team...I'm not convinced he's the long term OC solution for this team...

Everyone was worried about Roman with a passer like Herbert. Herbert just had a 349 passing game with few weapons -- this off the back of a 240 yard passing effort. This offense, last night, had 400 total yards. They had 30+ minutes of TOP. They had 3 or 4 long scoring drives. They have come a long way since the first game.

Thus far, everything Roman said was going to happen, has happened. The offense has gotten better each week. The offense would need time to jell. The offense would take time to find itself. Red zone efficiency is usually the last thing to improve because you are dealing with tighter windows and smaller margins for error. They have mostly only run for touchdowns, because of the difficulties with passing for touchdowns in the red zone.

Roman isn't the problem. I think people want to view Roman as a problem because they want to be proven "right" after what they said during the offseason. Heck, I may even be one of those folks. But I highly doubt in week 17 we are seeing these same issues. You are about to have teams have to again respect Herbert more and that is going to help the running game. It is all coming.

The last thing that would help this offense? Herbert being more mobile. Last night, a more mobile Herbert, gets this team in the end zone. He just lacks that ability right now.

[jubei]

Everyone was worried about Roman with a passer like Herbert. Herbert just had a 349 passing game with few weapons -- this off the back of a 240 yard passing effort. This offense, last night, had 400 total yards. They had 30+ minutes of TOP. They had 3 or 4 long scoring drives. They have come a long way since the first game.

Thus far, everything Roman said was going to happen, has happened. The offense has gotten better each week. The offense would need time to jell. The offense would take time to find itself. Red zone efficiency is usually the last thing to improve because you are dealing with tighter windows and smaller margins for error. They have mostly only run for touchdowns, because of the difficulties with passing for touchdowns in the red zone.

Roman isn't the problem. I think people want to view Roman as a problem because they want to be proven "right" after what they said during the offseason. Heck, I may even be one of those folks. But I highly doubt in week 17 we are seeing these same issues. You are about to have teams have to again respect Herbert more and that is going to help the running game. It is all coming.

The last thing that would help this offense? Herbert being more mobile. Last night, a more mobile Herbert, gets this team in the end zone. He just lacks that ability right now.

I REALLY wanna be a believer like you. but when your O shits the bed against one of the worst Ds in the NFL it makes me not so jubilant about the progression of this O. I'd love to see more of Justin barkin at his wrs running the wrong shit and not holding on to passes.

[Budsman]

Dammit who was the forum member here telling me Roman was not the answer? Our run offense looking like a Mentos commercial without the thumbs up nor fresh breath.

I forget. Not many people to choose from. The vast majority were all in on the Harbaugh Roman connection being magical.

[Budsman]

Everyone was worried about Roman with a passer like Herbert. Herbert just had a 349 passing game with few weapons -- this off the back of a 240 yard passing effort. This offense, last night, had 400 total yards. They had 30+ minutes of TOP. They had 3 or 4 long scoring drives. They have come a long way since the first game.

Thus far, everything Roman said was going to happen, has happened. The offense has gotten better each week. The offense would need time to jell. The offense would take time to find itself. Red zone efficiency is usually the last thing to improve because you are dealing with tighter windows and smaller margins for error. They have mostly only run for touchdowns, because of the difficulties with passing for touchdowns in the red zone.

Roman isn't the problem. I think people want to view Roman as a problem because they want to be proven "right" after what they said during the offseason. Heck, I may even be one of those folks. But I highly doubt in week 17 we are seeing these same issues. You are about to have teams have to again respect Herbert more and that is going to help the running game. It is all coming.

The last thing that would help this offense? Herbert being more mobile. Last night, a more mobile Herbert, gets this team in the end zone. He just lacks that ability right now.

The offense was better this week than last? The offense has been horribly inconsistent. Herbert had a bunch of meaningless yards but when it mattered we had zero touchdowns. When it mattered we had receivers screwing up at the line or running the wrong routes. When it mattered we couldn’t get a first down to ice the game. This offense was figured out. It looked really bad and unless this offense can force defenses to be honest against the run by threatening downfield then it’s going to continue to have problems.

[Budsman]

as far as the future with Jim Hortiz and Jim Harbaugh is concerned, yes, I'm excited too, but this is the Greg Roman thread, I need to see more from Roman to feel like he's going to be in future plans for this team...I'm not convinced he's the long term OC solution for this team...

That’s revisionist fucking bullshi…. Wait holy crap I agree with you.

[Budsman]

I think, for the bad, people these days expect quick turnarounds and quick results. This is game 6 in a new season with a new coaching staff, new players, new GM, and a new approach. This is a team coming off of a 5-12 season, that has had salary cap problems and a lack of talent due to 10 years of ineptness by a prior GM. This team is improving. Herbert is showing the ability to move the ball, even without Allen, MW, and Ekeler. Saying that, the team still lacks talent at center, interior OL, wide receiver, secondary, linebacker, and DL. There are tons of holes here. I am not one to beat up Roman at this point, as I see the offense getting better and better. They need to put up more points, for sure. But it is coming -- and this team will be better at the end of the year than they are now. Are they a playoff team? They shouldn't be. But they are heading in the right direction. If you see this as a transition year -- which it is -- then I think the focus should change from wins and Super Bowl hallucinations, and instead on the team growing, players developing, and players gelling -- then I think there is a lot to look forward to.

Are we missing the part where we couldn’t run on the Arizona fucking Cardinals?

[AFboltfan]

I don't think Roman was the right hire for Herbert or this team, but with that said I can't blame him alone for the offense. I don't think any OC would be successful with the current group Herbert has around him.

[jubei]

I don't think Roman was the right hire for Herbert or this team, but with that said I can't blame him alone for the offense. I don't think any OC would be successful with the current group Herbert has around him.

then let Justin cook a bit more to try and win games.

[jamrock]

I don't know who is worse between Roman and the OL coach

[wu-dai clan]

I am not dismissing our performance @ AZ but...

Every year there are games that are close. They get decided in the final segment. One or two plays are key. The officiating is involved.

Some teams eek out wins in games they should have lost.

I have wached the two successive plays, Hart's personal foul, and Conner's catch and run, too many times to count. It was again very close.

Hyperbole about staff and players is a fools errand.

We would be wise to cut this whole thing some slack. It will happen again. and again...this season...and every season.

Let it grow.