Official 2025 NFL Draft Superthread | Prospect Discussion

[beachcomber]

I chuckled at 3 DTs in the first 4 picks too. I currently have spidey senses telling me between 0 and 1 DT in the first 4 Rds

His bigger cluster mock just before this had Hampton at the front of his Rd2 cluster. I would LOVE that pick - you know, in the abstract, not knowing what all of my options are and etc disclaim deflect deny

the bigger cluster mock wasn't mine so much as an amalgamation of the talked about prospects, and so peoples can get more familiar w/where their guys are getting slotted.... this time by draft scout.

[beachcomber]

I had to giggle...sure, one of the best RBs in the league had a decent game vs us...but the D unit won that game...and has carried us, while Herbie is forced into gun fights with a single shot pistol...

And 3 of the first 4 picks are dts? Gimme a playmaker in the first 3 rounds somewhere...

Bosa out, and Higgins in? Ill think on your trench warfare, General Beach...but throw an Edge rusher in there somewhere., day 1 or 2....

would love an ED in there, but having a hard time raising a flag for the one of 'em.... do like Mykel and have a good sense 'bout him, but there are (major) ?s around his production and the such.

and have sat/spent some time of late skimming vids and the such on your boy Ty and the Loveland phenom, and.... just not in my wheelhouse atm.... as just really like the IDL prospects.

and know we won't get all of 'em, and prolly not even any of 'em, and.... Corleone looks like a beast, and ditto for Omarr, and would love me some Grant, and of which would mean we didn't resign everyone we wanted on the Dline, and....

do think we could bring back Khalil 'n Bud, and find a fourth ED somewhere besides the top of the draft board ??

and do like Oronde Gadsden as a flex/receiving TE, and do like Raheim for us as well....

do not want to rest on our laurels on the Dside of things, as see major league talent on the Dline and w/a supplement of DBs later on.... Herb will be just fine (and even without Tee Tee).

[CanadianBoltFan]

As I've said before, mock drafts are good for entertainment purposes and learning prospects' names, but that's about it. I just learned about Marshall pass-rusher Mike Green by reading a mock draft. I probably haven't seen Marshall play more than a few minutes this season (I may have turned its game on against Ohio State earlier in the year), so I'm glad I read a mock draft that had him going in the first round.

When it comes to mock drafts, former scouts such as Bucky Brooks and Daniel Jeremiah probably have the most credibility, as they worked in the NFL and most likely speak with teams through their contacts. But it is worth noting that the day before the draft this past April, Jeremiah said we would take J.C. Latham fifth overall, so who knows?

With that said, I see Tyler Warren going all over the place in mock drafts. PFF has him going 16th overall and USA today 20th. The Draft Network has him going 30th overall. Then there's Walter Football, which I have criticized in the past. That site has two mock draft "experts." One of them has Warren going 54th overall to the Denver Broncos, while the other has him being selected 82nd by the Arizona Cardinals.

So, I'm wondering how well thought of Warren is among real scouts in the NFL. At this time last year I remember seeing Brock Bowers going nowhere below 20th overall, and most mock drafts had him in the top ten. There was also no question that Bowers was the top tight end prospect in the last draft. I've read some sites ranking Warren below Colston Loveland and even Harold Fannin, Jr.

Could it be that Warren isn't actually a lock to be selected so high?

https://walterfootball.com/draft2025charlie_2.php?rbBot

https://walterfootball.com/draft2025_3.php

I take Walter Football the least seriously, whether that be for mock drafts or fantasy rankings and opinions. Tyler Warren is not going 82 lol

[CanadianBoltFan]

1) NT Kenneth Grant
2) NT Dontay Corleone
3) OG Donovan Jackson
4) DT Omarr Norman Lott
5) RB Raheim Sanders
5) TE Oronde Gadsden II
6) CB Domani Jackson
6) WR J Michael Sturdivant
6) CB Jacobee Bryant

You must be figuring the Chargers address their offensive skill position void in free agency?

[beachcomber]

You must be figuring the Chargers address their offensive skill position void in free agency?

wouldn't mind Trey Smith in FA, but no.... not really counting on too much of anyone there, just like to draft/slot players more on who I really would like as a Charger, as opposed to need, and.... not of the mind that drafting skill ahead of beef is such a wise idea/proposition, and....

am also of the mind that landing us a Savaiinaea or Donovan Jackson might help just as much or more than an Elic Ayomanor or the such ??

do like Tetairoa some, and would of course take one of the TEs, and.... just really like the IDL prospects early on this go 'round.

[CanadianBoltFan]

wouldn't mind Trey Smith in FA, but no.... not really counting on too much of anyone there, just like to draft/slot players more on who I really would like as a Charger, as opposed to need, and.... not of the mind that drafting skill ahead of beef is such a wise idea/proposition, and....

am also of the mind that landing us a Savaiinaea or Donovan Jackson might help just as much or more than an Elic Ayomanor or the such ??

do like Tetairoa some, and would of course take one of the TEs, and.... just really like the IDL prospects early on this go 'round.

Fair enough but there is no way this team can go into next year with the same WRS and TEs. The Baltimore game already did, the Chief game probably will, and our wildcard game most certiainly will hit home that we cant beat the best teams in the NFL with the weapons Herbert has now., Upgrades will have to come from somewhere.

I could see Edge or IDL in round one but I dont think WR cant wait until round 6. I also would like to get a RB stud no later than round 4. Sanders is ok but there are quite a few studs ahead of him I would rather have.

[dmac_bolt]

the bigger cluster mock wasn't mine so much as an amalgamation of the talked about prospects, and so peoples can get more familiar w/where their guys are getting slotted.... this time by draft scout.

ironically, it was some of your best work

[dmac_bolt]

Fair enough but there is no way this team can go into next year with the same WRS and TEs. The Baltimore game already did, the Chief game probably will, and our wildcard game most certiainly will hit home that we cant beat the best teams in the NFL with the weapons Herbert has now., Upgrades will have to come from somewhere.

I could see Edge or IDL in round one but I dont think WR cant wait until round 6. I also would like to get a RB stud no later than round 4. Sanders is ok but there are quite a few studs ahead of him I would rather have.

ditto - there is no way

it was a cap bomb year. They hoped to hit lotto on Hurst and Chark, didn't hit on either. JK+Gus was a better hit but still should be an upgrade target

[beachcomber]

Fair enough but there is no way this team can go into next year with the same WRS and TEs. The Baltimore game already did, the Chief game probably will, and our wildcard game most certiainly will hit home that we cant beat the best teams in the NFL with the weapons Herbert has now., Upgrades will have to come from somewhere.

I could see Edge or IDL in round one but I dont think WR cant wait until round 6. I also would like to get a RB stud no later than round 4. Sanders is ok but there are quite a few studs ahead of him I would rather have.

so who are you replacing out of McConk, QJ, Dissly, and/or Edwards ??

maybe we replace Simi, but he's pretty much ps/WR4/5 material, and maybe Stone Smartt gets replaced ??

the biggest need for me on O (after an OG) is a Dobbins hedge/replacement, and.... prefer Raheim later than losing out on a prime lineman in favor of an earlier on RB.

if we could get Tetairoa I might be more inclined to consider the such, or if it was Bijan this year, then I'd be more open to the such, albeit just see the IDL as much more impactful for this team than plugging perceived holes on the Oside ??

[beachcomber]

ditto - there is no way

it was a cap bomb year. They hoped to hit lotto on Hurst and Chark, didn't hit on either. JK+Gus was a better hit but still should be an upgrade target

regardless there is an opportunity cost.... if you bring in Tee Higgins then you are minus as many as five decent to good players, for the sake of some oversized eye candy ??

if you draft the TE, then you miss out on a NT that could largely impact the whole of the defense.... if you pass on a second DT, are you lessening your chances of a SB appearance ??

and no OG, means more moaning & groaning on game day around here.... ??

[beachcomber]

Will Dissly has 41 receptions.... which is 3+ balls/game.

54 Cade Otton (coulda, woulda, shoulda)
50 George Kittle
43 Mark Andrews
31 Sam LaPorta
42 Cole Kmet
41 Pat Freiermuth
33 Isaiah Likely
39 Mike Gesicki
40 David Njoku
41 Dalton Schultz
34 Dalton Kincaid
43 Evan Engram
43 Jake Ferguson
23 TJ Hockenson
08 Michael Mayer
07 Gerald Everett
05 Luke Musgrave
04 Ben Sinnott
03 Stone Smartt

personally am improving upon the latter and not the former....

[CanadianBoltFan]

so who are you replacing out of McConk, QJ, Dissly, and/or Edwards ??

maybe we replace Simi, but he's pretty much ps/WR4/5 material, and maybe Stone Smartt gets replaced ??

the biggest need for me on O (after an OG) is a Dobbins hedge/replacement, and.... prefer Raheim later than losing out on a prime lineman in favor of an earlier on RB.

if we could get Tetairoa I might be more inclined to consider the such, or if it was Bijan this year, then I'd be more open to the such, albeit just see the IDL as much more impactful for this team than plugging perceived holes on the Oside ??

Ladd is a perfect WR2 in a good NFL offense. We need a bigger X type alpha WR Herbert can go to in big games against big teams. Another playmaker. That is not QJ, keep working with him ok but set reasonable goals of him as a WR3. You see him in the top 2 now and our passing game is anemic. He is not reliable, he is not physical, he never wins contested catches.

Dissly is useful but a blocking TE2 who catches the odd pass is his most suitable role. He has played pretty well but he has also dropped some beautiful Herbert passes and cant be counted on as a consistent playmaker. he was no factor yesterday.

I could move on from Edwards no problem, there are better solutions. This RB draft class is the best in years, we need one from there to go with Dobbins if his injury status is ok to resign.

Not sure these are "perceived holes" We have among the worst skill groups in the entire NFL and our offense barely functions at times, pretty well every 2nd half of most games