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[el_jefe999]

I must be the only one that has hesitations about Golden. He ran a super quick 40 but his game speed doesn't seem as quick as that time. Traits matter at WR, no doubt, but whenever I see testing disconnects with game speed I get worried about the overdraft. Don't get me wrong I am not saying "do not draft" as he would help the team I just feel like we have the need for a bigger/contested catch X like Macmillan/Jayden Higgins etc.

[Jack Burton]

I must be the only one that has hesitations about Golden. He ran a super quick 40 but his game speed doesn't seem as quick as that time. Traits matter at WR, no doubt, but whenever I see testing disconnects with game speed I get worried about the overdraft. Don't get me wrong I am not saying "do not draft" as he would help the team I just feel like we have the need for a bigger/contested catch X like Macmillan/Jayden Higgins etc.

Oh I agree. I’ve said it here recently, I like him but I don’t like his height. However, he gets behind defenses regularly.
Jayden Higgins is being talked about as a 1st round prospect. It’s funny cause of his name but he basically is Tee Higgins all over again. I also am seeing a lot of Tre Harris being discussed as a viable top 60 pick that can play immediately.

[Ghost of Quacksaw]

Maybe Hortiz can get creative with a Trey Hendrickson trade, so the Bengals feel the won the deal.

Offer Trey Pipkins-OT/OG, Two 6th Rd 2025 Picks and Conditional 3rd in 2026, that converts to a 2nd Rd pick if Hendrickson leads the league in sacks in 2025.

Then Bengals can feel they got a starter right now for their OL, two additional picks right now for this draft, and then a chance for 2nd Rd pick as well.

The 6mil saved by trading Pipkins can be part of his signing bonus on a new deal. Make it a 10mil signing bonus plus his 16 mil salary and he gets 26mil this year. Add 2 years for 25m each year. And it's a 3y/76 mil deal total. Make 51 mil guaranteed all paid in first 2 years. Year 3 if he falls off a cliff in production you can cut and save 21mil. Otherwise you keep him and let him play out the contract and then hit FA, or if he still a sack monster add 1 year extension.

TPB, What do you think?

I think no way Cincinnati goes for that deal if Hendrickson has to lead the entire league in sacks in order to escalate the 3rd round pick to a 2nd.

[Chargers8491]

I just don't get it when I heard just because MWill was signed, the complementary WR to Ladd has been solved. He signed for $3m. That tells you how the league feels about Mike Williams. He was a fine signing - but thats it.
I get the draft is good for DLine and Rb - but Hortiz needs to give Herbert the weapons

Herbert is best in play action and pushing the ball down the field

Hortiz and Harbaugh and Romans know this - they aren't stupid

He needs weapons that will allow him to do that.

Yeah, I agree. People need to stop getting wrapped around thwaxel with these 1–2-year signing. These are just guys to fill holes and possibly start if they can't someone in the draft.

These 1-2- year contracts are just guys it's not the Charger's guy. The Charger's guy will come in the draft. MW is just a guy to fill a hole till the find an X WR in the draft.

[Eurobolt]

Maybe Hortiz can get creative with a Trey Hendrickson trade, so the Bengals feel the won the deal.

Offer Trey Pipkins-OT/OG, Two 6th Rd 2025 Picks and Conditional 3rd in 2026, that converts to a 2nd Rd pick if Hendrickson leads the league in sacks in 2025.

Then Bengals can feel they got a starter right now for their OL, two additional picks right now for this draft, and then a chance for 2nd Rd pick as well.

The 6mil saved by trading Pipkins can be part of his signing bonus on a new deal. Make it a 10mil signing bonus plus his 16 mil salary and he gets 26mil this year. Add 2 years for 25m each year. And it's a 3y/76 mil deal total. Make 51 mil guaranteed all paid in first 2 years. Year 3 if he falls off a cliff in production you can cut and save 21mil. Otherwise you keep him and let him play out the contract and then hit FA, or if he still a sack monster add 1 year extension.

TPB, What do you think?

I think it is better than previous one where you basically wanted Hendrickson at 40mil per year.

I do not see us including multiple picks in the deal.
Also condition on which 3rd become 2nd is ridiculous and Cincinnati says no.

Keep trying babe.

[Charge!]

I must be the only one that has hesitations about Golden. He ran a super quick 40 but his game speed doesn't seem as quick as that time. Traits matter at WR, no doubt, but whenever I see testing disconnects with game speed I get worried about the overdraft. Don't get me wrong I am not saying "do not draft" as he would help the team I just feel like we have the need for a bigger/contested catch X like Macmillan/Jayden Higgins etc.

I agree.... im not impressed with him or any ot the WR's enough to take any in first round....

The 2 BEST ball catchers in this draft are Warren and Loveland.... and they both filll our greatest NEED...... none of our TE's are real all round TE's who a QB can depend on.... you cannto depend on guys who cant get open or catch balls.... Loveland is a good blocker and elite receiver.....

We need to trade up for Loveland for Herbert to finally have a real full time EVERY DOWN TE who will be here for a decade or more so Herbert can have the chemistry that Rivers had with Gates, Fouts had with Winslow, Brady had with Gronk, and Mahomes had with Kelsey....
a great TE helps your OL and QB by getting open quickly so most blitzes are a waste of effort because ball is gone so quickly.....and it will help our other receivers get less coverage....

A great TE is the Center of an offense like a great center in basketball..... and is the greatest mismatch for defenses to try and cover....QB is the point guard calling plays and spreading the ball to the right people...

[Boltjolt]

Oh I agree. I’ve said it here recently, I like him but I don’t like his height. However, he gets behind defenses regularly.
Jayden Higgins is being talked about as a 1st round prospect. It’s funny cause of his name but he basically is Tee Higgins all over again. I also am seeing a lot of Tre Harris being discussed as a viable top 60 pick that can play immediately.

6' is too short? Id guess Hortiz don't think he is too short considering who Baltimore has drafted at WR over the years and McConkey.

I like Golden more than Higgins and Id venture he won't be a first rounder. Id think he will be there at 55. But he isn't one of my top guys I like.

Jeremiah doesn't have him in his too 50. Don't know who has him that high.

[Bolt4Knob]

I agree.... im not impressed with him or any ot the WR's enough to take any in first round....

The 2 BEST ball catchers in this draft are Warren and Loveland.... and they both filll our greatest NEED...... none of our TE's are real all round TE's who a QB can depend on.... you cannto depend on guys who cant get open or catch balls.... Loveland is a good blocker and elite receiver.....

We need to trade up for Loveland for Herbert to finally have a real full time EVERY DOWN TE who will be here for a decade or more so Herbert can have the chemistry that Rivers had with Gates, Fouts had with Winslow, Brady had with Gronk, and Mahomes had with Kelsey....
a great TE helps your OL and QB by getting open quickly so most blitzes are a waste of effort because ball is gone so quickly.....and it will help our other receivers get less coverage....

A great TE is the Center of an offense like a great center in basketball..... and is the greatest mismatch for defenses to try and cover....QB is the point guard calling plays and spreading the ball to the right people...

I am not sure the cost to get Loveland - but if the Chargers offer their 3rd and comp 6th - maybe they can get up to the Bengals spot to get Loveland..
I have said it, would rather use a 3rd to get Loveland if the reports show him to be the right long term answer over sending a 5th for Andrews or Goeddert - who are short term answers

[JOJAX85]

I agree.... im not impressed with him or any ot the WR's enough to take any in first round....

The 2 BEST ball catchers in this draft are Warren and Loveland.... and they both filll our greatest NEED...... none of our TE's are real all round TE's who a QB can depend on.... you cannto depend on guys who cant get open or catch balls.... Loveland is a good blocker and elite receiver.....

We need to trade up for Loveland for Herbert to finally have a real full time EVERY DOWN TE who will be here for a decade or more so Herbert can have the chemistry that Rivers had with Gates, Fouts had with Winslow, Brady had with Gronk, and Mahomes had with Kelsey....
a great TE helps your OL and QB by getting open quickly so most blitzes are a waste of effort because ball is gone so quickly.....and it will help our other receivers get less coverage....

A great TE is the Center of an offense like a great center in basketball..... and is the greatest mismatch for defenses to try and cover....QB is the point guard calling plays and spreading the ball to the right people...

I would trade up for Warren, but I don't think I'd trade up for Loveland. I don't personally think they are that close in relationship. Warren isn't 1A and Loveland 1B, in my opinion. Warren is 1. Don't get me wrong, I would take Loveland if he fell in our lap. I just think Warren could be a just slightly behind Bowers.

[Jack Burton]

6' is too short? Id guess Hortiz don't think he is too short considering who Baltimore has drafted at WR over the years.

I like Golden more than Higgins and Id venture he won't be a first rounder. Id think he will be there at 55. But he isn't one of my top guys I like.

Jeremiah doesn't have him in his too 50. Don't know who has him that high.

I didn’t say hes too short. I said I don’t like his height as a pure X guy. Both are excellent WRs and can catch so I’m not really worried about them there. And I know Roman wont use them in some weird half back role either.

[el_jefe999]

6' is too short? Id guess Hortiz don't think he is too short considering who Baltimore has drafted at WR over the years.

I like Golden more than Higgins and Id venture he won't be a first rounder. Id think he will be there at 55. But he isn't one of my top guys I like.

Jeremiah doesn't have him in his too 50. Don't know who has him that high.

Yeah for me he is one of my 2nd round targets. I'd prefer TE or Edge in the 1st depending on who falls to us.

[Boltgang74]

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