Official 2025 Chargers Discussion | 2025 Roster Build | Free Agency and Draft

[dmac_bolt]

“They have opened the purse strings on a very expensive coaching staff.” You mean after their chosen debacle GM and his coach got them looking laughable which caused them to have to something?

“top level facility”. The Eagles just won the SB with the leagues worst facility.

”spend to the cap?” Don’t look for any big swings from these “football guys.”

So far, two blowout losses in the first round of the playoffs and with Herbert no less! Naw, can’t have anything to do with the check signers.

Third times a charm. Just bits and pieces away, that’s all.

Not understanding your point? All of the work and investment they have done the last year+ doesnt count because you are suspicious they will revert back to their past?

Spending to the cap is spending to the cap, what was your point? Joe is designing the roster, Its clear he is allowed to spend to the cap because he did last year and is on pace to do it again. why are you yelling at the owners for how Joe thinks is the best deployment of cap space on players?

Are you just too scarred to recognize improvement? I can understand if you are, I’ve watched the franchise since the early 70s, back to the horrid Svare era. but no need to yell at Canada because he applauds the many improvements they are now doing. I applaud them too, I see nothing but owners trying to do good things to build a winner. May not get there, 31 other teams are also trying to build a winner. but I see the effort. I have no recommendations for them to do anything differently than what they are now doing.

Except maybe move back to San Diego so my friends can rejoin the Chargers family. But they can’t, they don’t have $3B cash to build a stadium and they have a city that not only won’t help, but would likely impede or block. We live with the world we have.

[Fouts2herbert]

I dont think right now we are in line for getting any comp picks.

Just one, after OTC factors in the Fox signing, he'll bump Harris which will push our guys up one slot...

[Boltinloudguy]

Just one, after OTC factors in the Fox signing, he'll bump Harris which will push our guys up one slot...

Makes sense with Poona and Fulton signing bigger deals and the Chargers just signing Becton to a larger deal. Would Najee’s deal cancel 1 if he hits his incentives?

[Critty]

The roster and depth chart is looking solid and Hortiz still has the draft,.any potential trades and other personnel moves as teams make cuts later in the year to get down to their 53 man rosters. I expect a more physical and better run game that open up play action even more. Chargers were #1 in play action rate and they will continue to be one of those team who sets up the deep pass with play action. They also have some physical players on offense that can move the opponents in the goal line and short yard situations. Herbert should be much more comfortable in this offense in year 2. They could use some RBs to compete for roster spots.
On defense I think they could use some Edge players to back up who they have now and then more depth at cornerback.

I trust what Hortiz and Harbaugh are doing
Prediction, min win of 10 and wildcard, max win of 13 and division title.

[Fouts2herbert]

Makes sense with Poona and Fulton signing bigger deals and the Chargers just signing Becton to a larger deal. Would Najee’s deal cancel 1 if he hits his incentives?

this is how they are stacking up so far...

Fulton 10 mil APY. vs Becton 10 mil APY these cancel each other

Palmer 10 mil APY vs Jackson 6.5 mil APY these cancel each other

Ford 9.5 mil APY vs Harris 5.2 mil APY these cancel each other

Fox 4.25 mil APY vs Conklin 3 mil APY-----NOTE Conklin is second to last on qualifying, all it takes is two more players leaguwide to sign for more than 3 million and he's going to drop off this position which will push Fox up to cancel out Harris, then Ford would cancel out Jackson, and finally Palmer would cancel out Becton, which would free up Fulton to bring us a 5th rounder...the chances of this happening are very high...

on top of that you also have ASJ and Dobbins still out there, all it takes to push up Palmer and Ford is for ASJ and Dobbins to sign for more than 3.5 mil APY, assuming that ASJ doesn't sign for a 10 plus mil deal himself...

so, even if nothing else happens with ASJ and Dobbins which is doubtful, we are in line to get at least one compensatory 5th round pick in 2026, if ASJ signs soon that could become two 5th round picks, and on the tail end of things there is a slim chance that Dobbins signs for over 3 mil APY which would probably net an additional pick, but those two guys have to be signed within the next 5 weeks or no picks will come from them, so they need to sign before the qualified free agent signing period ends right after the draft...

[Lefty2SLO]

No way I'd sign Keenan for $20 million a year. Not sure I'd sign him for $11 million. At this point in his career, he is a slot receiver and we have a better one than him now in McConkey. I am guessing we will draft a WR in the middle rounds for depth behind what we have.

I wouldn't want KA at 11 mil . . . . . . . . . . no way.

Hortiz has better places to spend the money. Pick up a WR (or 2) in the draft if necessary, but make sure we get an elite TE as well. Conklin's a good add, but a TE room of Loveland, Conklin and Disley would be outstanding . . . . . . . .

[Lefty2SLO]

@RB: Harris was a nice pick-up. But I think we still go out and try to find another similar RB in the draft. If Hampton is there @#22, I think we draft him. If not still there @#22, I think we target Quinshon Judkins @#55. Rinse and repeat in the 3rd round if Judkins isn't there @#55. I don't think we're looking for "lightning". I think we're looking for "Thunder v2" to spell Harris. We're dead-in-the-water if Harris goes down... and no one to take over the role.

@WR: MW was another nice pick-up. An X-WR to challenge the 2-deep safety alignments and create space for Ladd and a new TE. I think we go after another X-WR in the draft... but not a round 1-3 guy. A guy that can develop and provide depth. The WR class is very deep. Kaden Prather is a prototypical prospect that could go as late as round 5 in a deep class. The Chargers met with Roc Talor. Donte' Thornton and KeAndre Smith-Lambert are other developmental X-WR prospects with size and speed. Jaylen Royals and Savion Williams are guys that I would consider in round 3 if they were BPA and we have RB/TE taken care of in round 1 and 2.

@TE: I would be looking for TE in the 1st or 2nd round. Get a really good one. Occupy the safeties with your outside WR's (QJ and MW). Let Ladd frustrate defenders at the short/mid-levels... drive a stake through the defense's heart with a quality TE that can press the seam and work the middle and sidelines. He should be able to line-up everywhere... needs to be a decent blocker.

Ideal: 1st: RB Hampton/Johnson... 2nd: TE Taylor/Orroyo
Also ideal: 1st: TE Loveland... 2nd RB Judkins

3rd/4th: BPA @DT/EDGE... deep classes @both positions

Love this . . . . . . . . either option works for me

[sonorajim]

The roster and depth chart is looking solid and Hortiz still has the draft,.any potential trades and other personnel moves as teams make cuts later in the year to get down to their 53 man rosters. I expect a more physical and better run game that open up play action even more. Chargers were #1 in play action rate and they will continue to be one of those team who sets up the deep pass with play action. They also have some physical players on offense that can move the opponents in the goal line and short yard situations. Herbert should be much more comfortable in this offense in year 2. They could use some RBs to compete for roster spots.
On defense I think they could use some Edge players to back up who they have now and then more depth at cornerback.

I trust what Hortiz and Harbaugh are doing
Prediction, min win of 10 and wildcard, max win of 13 and division title.

Max is always a SB win.
I love the way Hortiz is going. IOL looks a lot better, RB, TE, WR are improved. DL and CB depth improved. I'm looking forward to the draft. Pretty much BPA when we're on the clock. Yes, that may include a trade up..Maybe.

[Charge!]

Max is always a SB win.
I love the way Hortiz is going. IOL looks a lot better, RB, TE, WR are improved. DL and CB depth improved. I'm looking forward to the draft. Pretty much BPA when we're on the clock. Yes, that may include a trade up..Maybe.

Agree....

[Bolt4Knob]

this is how they are stacking up so far...

Fulton 10 mil APY. vs Becton 10 mil APY these cancel each other

Palmer 10 mil APY vs Jackson 6.5 mil APY these cancel each other

Ford 9.5 mil APY vs Harris 5.2 mil APY these cancel each other

Fox 4.25 mil APY vs Conklin 3 mil APY-----NOTE Conklin is second to last on qualifying, all it takes is two more players leaguwide to sign for more than 3 million and he's going to drop off this position which will push Fox up to cancel out Harris, then Ford would cancel out Jackson, and finally Palmer would cancel out Becton, which would free up Fulton to bring us a 5th rounder...the chances of this happening are very high...

on top of that you also have ASJ and Dobbins still out there, all it takes to push up Palmer and Ford is for ASJ and Dobbins to sign for more than 3.5 mil APY, assuming that ASJ doesn't sign for a 10 plus mil deal himself...

so, even if nothing else happens with ASJ and Dobbins which is doubtful, we are in line to get at least one compensatory 5th round pick in 2026, if ASJ signs soon that could become two 5th round picks, and on the tail end of things there is a slim chance that Dobbins signs for over 3 mil APY which would probably net an additional pick, but those two guys have to be signed within the next 5 weeks or no picks will come from them, so they need to sign before the qualified free agent signing period ends right after the draft...

Where are you getting a 5th round pick from for ASJ or Dobbins
Perhaps ASJ signs for 10+ m - that might get a 5th round comp pick
But Dobbins is not signing for an AAV above like 4-5m

I think you are being a bit unrealistic in thinking they will get a 5th round comp pick for Dobbins and ASJ

[Boltinloudguy]

this is how they are stacking up so far...

Fulton 10 mil APY. vs Becton 10 mil APY these cancel each other

Palmer 10 mil APY vs Jackson 6.5 mil APY these cancel each other

Ford 9.5 mil APY vs Harris 5.2 mil APY these cancel each other

Fox 4.25 mil APY vs Conklin 3 mil APY-----NOTE Conklin is second to last on qualifying, all it takes is two more players leaguwide to sign for more than 3 million and he's going to drop off this position which will push Fox up to cancel out Harris, then Ford would cancel out Jackson, and finally Palmer would cancel out Becton, which would free up Fulton to bring us a 5th rounder...the chances of this happening are very high...

on top of that you also have ASJ and Dobbins still out there, all it takes to push up Palmer and Ford is for ASJ and Dobbins to sign for more than 3.5 mil APY, assuming that ASJ doesn't sign for a 10 plus mil deal himself...

so, even if nothing else happens with ASJ and Dobbins which is doubtful, we are in line to get at least one compensatory 5th round pick in 2026, if ASJ signs soon that could become two 5th round picks, and on the tail end of things there is a slim chance that Dobbins signs for over 3 mil APY which would probably net an additional pick, but those two guys have to be signed within the next 5 weeks or no picks will come from them, so they need to sign before the qualified free agent signing period ends right after the draft...

That sucks that a $10 mil cancels out a $6.5 mil and a $9.5 mil cancels out a $5.2 mil. Doesn’t really make sense to me. Those are pretty big gaps in APY.

[Fouts2herbert]

Where are you getting a 5th round pick from for ASJ or Dobbins
Perhaps ASJ signs for 10+ m - that might get a 5th round comp pick
But Dobbins is not signing for an AAV above like 4-5m

I think you are being a bit unrealistic in thinking they will get a 5th round comp pick for Dobbins and ASJ

forget ASJ and Dobbins, Fox will cancel out Harris once his numbers come in, that alone get's you a fifth right there, Conklin is literally teetering on the edge of qualifying, all it'll take will be one more signing leagewide after Fox for Tyler to get bumped completely off the list...so that's a very high probability of getting one 5th there...

as for ASJ he could generate his own fifth if he comes in close to what he was projected, but even if he doesn't, he could still bump someone else on the incoming list which would make Palmer qualified for a 5th...so basically there are two ways that ASJ can get us a 5th, either he comes in over the top, or he signs anything in the 4-9mil dollar range which would push someone else...I thought I explained it well enough in the original post not sure why it's not clear to you...