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  • northerner
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    • Mar 2019
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    Originally posted by rensoul View Post

    Reagor is hurt and Ladd is banged up, the team could use OBJ.
    Even at his age he'd probably be the 2nd or 3rd best player of this WR group.

    There is space within the WR group, he would be affordable and wouldn't cost any draft capital and is a competent player.

    OBJ had a diva rep as a younger player but from what I remember from last season when he was in Baltimore was that there were positive reviews of his presence amongst younger players.
    we should try anything at this point. Reagor and Chark ain't it. not a big fan of OBJ, but he might be able to help.

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    • RTPbolt
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      OBJ is a me first guy i dont really want in the locker room. Yes he can catch decently well but too much baggage and i dont see us as desperate right now.

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      • richpjr
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        Originally posted by RTPbolt View Post
        OBJ is a me first guy i dont really want in the locker room. Yes he can catch decently well but too much baggage and i dont see us as desperate right now.
        Hard pass on OBJ. The guy hasn't caught more than 35 passes in a season since 2019. Not sure what the allure is of a diva WR with a big injury history and low production.

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        • CanadianBoltFan
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          Originally posted by richpjr View Post

          Hard pass on OBJ. The guy hasn't caught more than 35 passes in a season since 2019. Not sure what the allure is of a diva WR with a big injury history and low production.
          The "catch" was 10 years ago

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          • Velo
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            Are the Chargers still more popular in San Diego?

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            • dmac_bolt
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              • May 2019
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              Originally posted by Topcat View Post

              In a word: INJURIES
              Quantity over quality as well. 2 late draft picks did not pan out to play in 2024, one cut entirely. Other scrubs with PS-level ability in the 11. One FA sign never showed up (“injury” ended quite a while ago). Q regressed mid-season, maybe he’s regrouping - last week was definitely better than the 2 prior. Ladd hurt.

              DD never gonna be a legit WR imo. Don’t know why he’s not better at stop-redirection-restart but he’s just not shown he is yet. He’s good at full speed slight shift in direction aka returns
              Palmer has never looked recovered from last year
              Fehoko (backup level to begin with) broke his arm?
              Rice never showed he was ready in PS games. Maybe next year, maybe never - tbd

              It was never a great WR plan - they had a plan based on hope, focusing more on other roster areas. It bit them. This is a 2025 project now

              I’d like to see if Shenault can surprise, won’t be shocked if he’s active this week - he has some athleticism - can he find it?
              “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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              • Velo
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                Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post
                DD never gonna be a legit WR imo. Don’t know why he’s not better at stop-redirection-restart but he’s just not shown he is yet. He’s good at full speed slight shift in direction aka returns
                I was expecting more from DD as a WR also. He's a decent returner though and I think he'll stick with the team for awhile. I don't know if DD will ever develop into the type of WR Tank Dell is. Dell is exactly the same height/weight as DD but not as fast.

                Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post
                I’d like to see if Shenault can surprise, won’t be shocked if he’s active this week - he has some athleticism - can he find it?
                Really intrigued by Shenault. He could be a solid #3 or #4 WR, plus he can return kicks, plus he can make plays as an RB. I don't know if he will get any playing time this season. IMO, he could replace Reagor or Chark on the roster at any time.

                When you look at the WR depth chart, there are only 3 guys: McConkey, QJ and Palmer. Chark and Reagor are dead weight. They contribute little to nothing. DD as discussed above is just a returner. He gets some carries on sweeps, but those plays haven't been very effective. He adds nothing as a WR. With QJ still struggling, and very little receiving production from the TEs or RBs, Herbert's options are very, very limited in the passing game. Some may not agree, but this offense could really use Austin Ekeler. He was a safety valve who could turn a dump off into a 25 yard gain or a TD. He was a beast in the screen game. I'm hoping Vidal can develop into that type of player.

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                • PhilaBoltster
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                  Originally posted by Velo View Post
                  Some may not agree, but this offense could really use Austin Ekeler. He was a safety valve who could turn a dump off into a 25 yard gain or a TD. He was a beast in the screen game. I'm hoping Vidal can develop into that type of player.
                  This offense could really use Austin Ekeler from 2-3 years ago, but he’s not the same player anymore.
                  But I agree that a fast rb in the draft that is good in the passing game would be very helpful.

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                  • Boltnut
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                    Originally posted by Velo View Post
                    Are the Chargers still more popular in San Diego?

                    https://www.si.com/nfl/chargers/char...les-tv-ratings
                    I will try to explain this as best I can. And the evidence I offer is largely anecdotal.

                    The biggest thing that most here don't understand is that the remaining, local Charger fan is overwhelmingly happy to still be here. We are very proud of our city, communities, and region. There is no other place we'd rather be... whereas most of you have left for financial/political reasons. Many are born-and-raised... living amongst an onslaught of out-of-staters. The out-of-staters have understandably remained loyal to their childhood teams. And a lot of the out-of-staters have no interest in football at all. Largely, I believe the average "Angelino" can be categorized this way, too.

                    When the Chargers moved it was a personal attack on locals. In essence, they told their loyal season ticket holders that their long, financial support was not enough. Even in the leanest years, there were still around 45,000 season ticket holders. The good years, the number grew to around 55,000. Even though I am loyal to the Chargers, I was never one of those season ticket holders. I couldn't afford them in my younger years... and couldn't commit to more than 2 games per year in my not-so-younger years. As everyone has pointed out... there are many different activities available to us year-round. And having married an out-of-stater who is not a football fan... season tickets is not a family priority. Whereas, the ex-San Diego Chargers season ticket crew made this a family priorroty. They spent most of Saturday night and Sunday morning cooking, marinating, and packing the family RV for tailgating at the Murph Sunday morning.

                    So when the Chargers decided that luxury boxes were more important than their decades-long loyal season ticket holders... the loyalist said, "Fuck You!" They lost 50+% of their loyal fans. These people are never coming back... as witnessed by personal friends, family, and co-workers. Marty Caswell's article (and TV ratings) bear this out.
                    Protect the QB
                    Run the ball
                    Play great defense

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                    • Lefty2SLO
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                      Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                      would you say that the team's improvement this year makes it easier to take his, ahem, PUNishment?

                      (that one's for you, TC - hat's off!)

                      Not NOW . . . . . . . . . . . .

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                      • Lefty2SLO
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                        Originally posted by Topcat View Post

                        ME??? PUNS??? Shocking...positively...shocking...

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                        Yes - SHOCKING . . . . . . . . .and now you've infected d-mac - who knows where this will all end . . . . . . . . . I'm assuming it won't be pretty

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                        • Bolts4ever213
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                          Competitors welcome. OBJ isn’t known to drop passes, while not an explosive as before, just the fact he can catch is a plus. On the cheap too.

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