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  • CanadianBoltFan
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    Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

    He is the opposite of Bozeman. Avrage pass blocker, below average run blocker.

    NFL and PFF player stats for New York Jets C Josh Myers on Pro Football Focus.




    Bozemans overall grade is actually better than Myers.......Id pass on Myers

    NFL and PFF player stats for Los Angeles Chargers C Bradley Bozeman on Pro Football Focus.
    Sounds like a pass. I wasnt advocating for Myers. Just saw he was a starting C who is UFA so I threw him out for discussion. Sounds like Dalman, Kelly or draft

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    • wu-dai clan
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      Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

      Pass.....49 run blocking grade, ....52.6 overall. I mean we need to protect Herb but need to run the ball too. Gates was Philys backup OC. Hopefully we can get a more balanced OC. IDK their plan but it cant be just Bozeman.
      The one thing these guys have going is experience.

      It points to ponying up for Dalman.

      Monheim is rising after showing surprising anchor and bend in Mobile.

      Drew Kendall had a good showing at Shrine.

      The comp for Jared Wilson us Zack Frazier and he is now in play at #86.

      Choices...
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      • Boltjolt
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        Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

        The one thing these guys have going is experience.

        It points to ponying up for Dalman.

        Monheim is rising after showing surprising anchor and bend in Mobile.

        Drew Kendall had a good showing at Shrine.

        The comp for Jared Wilson us Zack Frazier and he is now in play at #86.

        Choices...
        Got to trust the FO. Ive not looked at any OL in this draft to be honest. Thats....yur job

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        • dmac_bolt
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          Originally posted by Ghost of Quacksaw View Post
          Coming into the 2024 draft, it was broadly understood that Brock Bowers was a 'Generational Talent'.

          That means it's really unlikely that we'll see a TE prospect who measures up to Bowers for about 10 years to come.

          So *OF COURSE* no TE that is coming out THIS year... or next year... or the year after that is going to be comparable to Bowers himself.

          When posters come off with the 'tude that there's no TE worth drafting, unless he's as good as Bowers is... Well, that guy has boxed himself into a corner, because there are scheme-fit TEs who are worth drafting, even if they aren't Bowers. You think this team couldn't use Sam LaPorta?
          Generations are 20 years apart. Some of us will not be here for BB2.0. RIP.

          We don’t have to have the best TE in the last 20 yrs to have a very good TE. I see 5 Rookie TEs jump off the page as an immediate TE1 for our 2025 team, it could be 7 or 8. FA market looks pretty weak to me.
          Justin Herbert is Elite. Ride or Die ...​

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          • sonorajim
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            Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

            Generations are 20 years apart. Some of us will not be here for BB2.0. RIP.

            We don’t have to have the best TE in the last 20 yrs to have a very good TE. I see 5 Rookie TEs jump off the page as an immediate TE1 for our 2025 team, it could be 7 or 8. FA market looks pretty weak to me.
            "Better than Bowers" isn't the high water mark we're aiming for. Better than Dissly is. There are several draft or FA options that have good hands and can block. There will be an upgraded TE 1 in '25.

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            • Charge!
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              Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

              Generations are 20 years apart. Some of us will not be here for BB2.0. RIP.

              We don’t have to have the best TE in the last 20 yrs to have a very good TE. I see 5 Rookie TEs jump off the page as an immediate TE1 for our 2025 team, it could be 7 or 8. FA market looks pretty weak to me.
              agree... there are several options that are an immediate upgrade over what we currently have.....

              amd there are 2 elite differnce making quality TE's in this draft that are head and shoulders above the others in this draft....Warren has been compareds to Gronk and Loveland has been compared to Kelsey because of his elusive ad lib getting open movement skills..... and Loveland will be a better pro than he was in college because he will have a great QB throwing him the ball....loveland could lead this team in receptions the way Gates used to do.... and he is a great red zone threat...only problem is we may have to trade up a few spots to get ahead of DEN to get him.....

              I assume the Chargers will aquire a starting RG in FA and maybe a starting DL like sweat or Milton williams.... and add a mid range deep threat WR like Slayton...and maybe another vet CB.... then re-sign some of our our FA's..... and use the draft for TE, RB, future C .... and defensive help

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              • dmac_bolt
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                Originally posted by Charge! View Post

                agree... there are several options that are an immediate upgrade over what we currently have.....

                amd there are 2 elite differnce making quality TE's in this draft that are head and shoulders above the others in this draft....Warren has been compareds to Gronk and Loveland has been compared to Kelsey because of his elusive ad lib getting open movement skills..... and Loveland will be a better pro than he was in college because he will have a great QB throwing him the ball....loveland could lead this team in receptions the way Gates used to do.... and he is a great red zone threat...only problem is we may have to trade up a few spots to get ahead of DEN to get him.....

                I assume the Chargers will aquire a starting RG in FA and maybe a starting DL like sweat or Milton williams.... and add a mid range deep threat WR like Slayton...and maybe another vet CB.... then re-sign some of our our FA's..... and use the draft for TE, RB, future C .... and defensive help
                I started the off season favoring Warren but after more review, I prefer Loveland of the two (either are great) and I think you're right he will be the better pro (although as always it depends a lot on what team any player goes to).

                I like Taylor a lot, and would still really love to see a pure weapon like Fannin though the world keeps yelling at me that he's not a Harbaugh Type of TE. uh, ok. sorry.

                Arroyo has shot up everyone's boards, I havent looked very closely - I'll plead ignorance and accept their recommendation and add him as #5 in the mix. Some have him at #3.
                Justin Herbert is Elite. Ride or Die ...​

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                • 21&500
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                  Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

                  The one thing these guys have going is experience.

                  It points to ponying up for Dalman.

                  Monheim is rising after showing surprising anchor and bend in Mobile.

                  Drew Kendall had a good showing at Shrine.

                  The comp for Jared Wilson us Zack Frazier and he is now in play at #86.

                  Choices...
                  The more I look, there are multiple developmental, trait guys worth considering which falls in line with going FA at iOL.
                  Kendall in particular. 2 years in S&C away from being a starter.

                  ​​OT:
                  I don't think you've ever misspelled a word in your illustrious posting career, not since I've been reading.
                  human after all.
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                  • wu-dai clan
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                    Originally posted by 21&500 View Post

                    The more I look, there are multiple developmental, trait guys worth considering which falls in line with going FA at iOL.
                    Kendall in particular. 2 years in S&C away from being a starter.

                    ​OT:
                    I don't think you've ever misspelled a word in your illustrious posting career, not since I've been reading.
                    human after all.
                    I always type on the fly due to my job. Don't want any typos. Sorry about that 21. I see your personnel takes. Sensible.
                    Boze...Center of Attention

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                    • Bolt4Knob
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                      Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                      Generations are 20 years apart. Some of us will not be here for BB2.0. RIP.

                      We don’t have to have the best TE in the last 20 yrs to have a very good TE. I see 5 Rookie TEs jump off the page as an immediate TE1 for our 2025 team, it could be 7 or 8. FA market looks pretty weak to me.
                      Agreed. Goeddert, La Porta, Kraft - all second round draft picks. Andrews I think was in the 2nd round. I think Kelce was R3 back in the day.

                      The Chargers don't need Kellen Winslow - they just need a good solid player like the above names.

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                      • northerner
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                        Originally posted by sonorajim View Post

                        "Better than Bowers" isn't the high water mark we're aiming for. Better than Dissly is. There are several draft or FA options that have good hands and can block. There will be an upgraded TE 1 in '25.
                        yes, let's get over bowers.

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                        • Boltjolt
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                          Originally posted by sonorajim View Post

                          "Better than Bowers" isn't the high water mark we're aiming for. Better than Dissly is. There are several draft or FA options that have good hands and can block. There will be an upgraded TE 1 in '25.
                          Im not looking to sign a vet TE but if we miss on Loveland or Warren....and id be fine with Taylor as well, though not sure he starts day one but thinking he can at some point. Just saying if we do sign a vet for a year i got two guys. Noah Fant and Zach Ertz.

                          Ertz is 33-34 but he had a damn good year in AZ and still looks like he has gas in the tank.

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