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[wu-dai clan]

I wonder if it is best to leave people where they are, except have Salyer and Pipkins battle it out for OLT.

Salyer (Pipkins)-- Zion--Boze--Mekhi--Alt.

[jaguarmanftype]

I don't know what to say other than I'm now more focussed on monetary risk management vs. whatever a good player can bring to any team. Go back and check my posts about not over paying and over guaranteeing for slater. I said play out his contract on the 5th year option and then franchise tag the following year due to all these guarantees. There's a difference in guaranteeing $30 mil and guaranteeing $100 mil. A single player can now set back an entire franchise for 3+ years if something goes sideways. Teams should not be responsible for $100 mil guarantees unless it's an elite QB. Everyone else can go pound sand.

I agree with this so much. Most of the players aren't worth their second contract extensions, especially with today's guarantees. You have very few cornerstone franchise players that you should allocate market-breaking money to, and that's usually your elite top 5 QB and a one-in-awhile player like an Aaron Donald. I think injury guarantees have to be significantly lessened and laddered in by year of contract. No player should be earning their entire guarantees while having season-ending or worse, career-ending injuries in their first year of a contract extension. Sad to say, but I honestly think Slater retires in the next camp. There's no reason for him to not take the money unless he absolutely loves to play football. At best, he comes back at 70-80% and I doubt he'll think it's worth the sacrifice. The Chargers will likely get hosed on this deal.

[Eurobolt]

Of course our LT with the highest contract get injuried while Chiefs rookie who was injured and everyone avoid him like hot potato in draft will have all-pro season...

I am devastated

[gzubeck]

Player contracts have always been guaranteed against injury. It's nothing new, and it's not an invention of agents. If contracts were not injury guaranteed, players would play not to get injured, not play to win, and the game would be unwatchable. A player signs a contract then puts his body on the line in a violent sport that generates billions for the owners of these franchises. You believe owners should be able to withhold a portion of a player's money if the player is injured trying to win a Super Bowl for the franchise?

I don't know what to say other than I'm now more focussed on monetary risk management vs. whatever a good player can bring to any team. Go back and check my posts about not over paying and over guaranteeing for slater. I said play out his contract on the 5th year option and then franchise tag the following year due to all these guarantees. There's a difference in guaranteeing $30 mil and guaranteeing $100 mil. A single player can now set back an entire franchise for 3+ years if something goes sideways. Teams should not be responsible for $100 mil guarantees unless it's an elite QB. Everyone else can go pound sand.

[Velo]

It's a good idea. The Vikings traded for Cam Robinson after their left tackle, Christian Darrisaw, went down with a season-ending injury in the middle of last season. They got Robinson for a conditional seventh-round pick. I think Conklin would obviously cost more. But targeting a team that isn't expected to do much to make a trade for an offensive tackle is probably on Hortiz's mind right now.

Yes, the Chargers are a top 10 team with aspirations. You want to protect that by acquiring a capable, quality OT, the FA options are not good enough.

[Velo]

How many human beings out there get $100 million guarantees? You or I do not. This is a fictional creation by agents and players to get there's no matter what and the entire sport suffers as a result. I was against a big money guaranteed contract and everyone around here said lock him up even given the injury history red flags. After this, the age of big money guarantees are gonna dry up real quick without some caveats included.

Player contracts have always been guaranteed against injury. It's nothing new, and it's not an invention of agents. If contracts were not injury guaranteed, players would play not to get injured, not play to win, and the game would be unwatchable. A player signs a contract then puts his body on the line in a violent sport that generates billions for the owners of these franchises. You believe owners should be able to withhold a portion of a player's money if the player is injured trying to win a Super Bowl for the franchise?

[electricgold]

Pipkens was injured and DNP against the Texans

The other two journeymen played, and I could show you hours of film on Pipkins making terrible blocks!?

Trey Pipkins has a net worth of 25 million dollars he's fleeced from the Chargers! Do you really think he's earned 25 m based on his play?!?

[CanadianBoltFan]

Slater can come back from this. Even if the patellar tendon tear takes more time to recover from, it's early August, he will have more than a full year to get ready for next season. Slater is still young, he is a mentally strong person with a model work ethic.

Keenan Allen and Derwin James both suffered injury setbacks early in their careers that cost them each the better part of two seasons. But both of them fought hard to come back from the adversity and become Pro Bowl players again. Slater will have these guys to lean on, to help him through it.

If Hortiz were to trade for a quality OL to play RT this season, that player could be moved inside when Slater returns and be the needed upgrade on the IOL going forward.

I admit i feel better hearing Josh Simmons injury was the same, He had it in October and seems to have come back well.

Did someone say Duke Merriweather had ths injury once upon a time? That is Slater's guru, he could be helpful if that is true.

[Topcat]

Big opportunity for Pipkens on the final year of his contract to go back to tackle and hit the market in 26.

Pip has had several years and a whole lot of coaching up to show his worth...at both T and G...and he's still a journeyman...about to go on a new journey after this season...

[Velo]

Slater can come back from this. Even if the patellar tendon tear takes more time to recover from, it's early August, he will have more than a full year to get ready for next season. Slater is still young, he is a mentally strong person with a model work ethic.

Keenan Allen and Derwin James both suffered injury setbacks early in their careers that cost them each the better part of two seasons. But both of them fought hard to come back from the adversity and become Pro Bowl players again. Slater will have these guys to lean on, to help him through it.

If Hortiz were to trade for a quality OL to play RT this season, that player could be moved inside when Slater returns and be the needed upgrade on the IOL going forward.

[jamrock]

Tired of gambling with Herbert's health with journeymen Olineman! Remember the Texas game? There was a reason Pipkins was removed as a starter! Zion, under achiever, Bozeman! All three probably starting game one, Chris Jones can hardly wait!

Pipkens was injured and DNP against the Texans

[electricgold]

Big opportunity for Pipkens on the final year of his contract to go back to tackle and hit the market in 26.

Tired of gambling with Herbert's health with journeymen Olineman! Remember the Texas game? There was a reason Pipkins was removed as a starter! Zion, under achiever, Bozeman! All three probably starting game one, Chris Jones can hardly wait!