Official 2025 Chargers Discussion | 2025 Roster Build | Training Camp

[wu-dai clan]

There are going to be solid football players on the defensive side of the ball that will waft into the top of the third round this year. Henley was drafted in the third round. Would you NOT want more results like this in the upcoming draft? Sorry guys but it does take 11 very good players to make a solid defense and not just one $30 mil superstar on defense and a $50 mil QB and the rest just average players.

Dwaft da wafters !!

[gzubeck]

Dwaft da wafters !!

I think were wafting into elmer phud territory. LOL!

[powderblueboy]

The last year Hortiz was in Baltimore (2023), the Ravens had the same first- and third-round picks we have now--#22 and #86. They selected Zay Flowers and linebacker Trenton Simpson. Flowers has done quite well as a receiver, and Simpson emerged as a starting linebacker this season.

Would I trade Flowers and Simpson for Myles Garrett? You bet your ass. But what I'd like to know is, with all of the players we will have to sign to second contracts, can we keep our cap healthy over the next handful of years after extending Garrett? That's the only thing that would hold me up in trading a first and a third for Garrett.

It would be Flowers, Simpson and some dude you bring in making 20+ million a year all for Garrett.

[dmac_bolt]

Dwaft da wafters !!

[Bolt4Knob]

Yep...we FINALLY now have solid bookend OT's...why create a new hole? Fix the IOL first, and we'll have a solid line...too high a price to pay for Garrett, plus Tuli and picks?...no, just...no...pass...

The only way I would give up Slater is if they knew inside information about his injury history that we just don't know about.

But that would have to be some really funky thing and Cleveland or any team would learn about

I doubt it happens

I think
1) the chargers will stay the course
2) if traded, he will go to the NFC and the Lions, Commanders and even Falcons make a lot of sense as NFC teams. Bears too

[Boltnut]

The Chargers have 45 players on the "active" roster.
15 of those players are players that probably won't make the final 53-man roster. So really, they're at 30 legitimate players.
Bosa and Pipkins probably get released (because of their bad contracts). And Mack is still on the "active" roster because of his "void".
So, in reality, we have 27 players on our active list. Meaning, we have 26 spots to fill before our final-53 man roster.

If all 10 of our draftees make the Final-53.. we still have 16 roster spots to fill with re-signs and free agents.
Every free agent you sign after the official-start-of-the-season will count against the compensatory formula.
Every free agent you re-sign before the official-start-of-the-season does not count against the compensatory formula.

I suggest we find 11-12 of our own free agents and sign them before the offcial-start-of-the-season.
Then we re-sign 4 free agents after the-official-start-of-the-season... 2 @mid-level contracts... 2 @lower-level contracts.

[Topcat]

There are going to be solid football players on the defensive side of the ball that will waft into the top of the third round this year. Henley was drafted in the third round. Would you NOT want more results like this in the upcoming draft? Sorry guys but it does take 11 very good players to make a solid defense and not just one $30 mil superstar on defense and a $50 mil QB and the rest just average players.

Ahh, yes...I LOVE the smell of draft steals wafting up to me on draft day morning...

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[Topcat]

The Chargers have 45 players on the "active" roster.
15 of those players are players that probably won't make the final 53-man roster. So really, they're at 30 legitimate players.
Bosa and Pipkins probably get released (because of their bad contracts). And Mack is still on the "active" roster because of his "void".
So, in reality, we have 27 players on our active list. Meaning, we have 26 spots to fill before our final-53 man roster.

If all 10 of our draftees make the Final-53.. we still have 16 roster spots to fill with re-signs and free agents.
Every free agent you sign after the official-start-of-the-season will count against the compensatory formula.
Every free agent you re-sign before the official-start-of-the-season does not count against the compensatory formula.

I suggest we find 11-12 of our own free agents and sign them before the offcial-start-of-the-season.
Then we re-sign 4 free agents after the-official-start-of-the-season... 2 @mid-level contracts... 2 @lower-level contracts.

Good point...we have a lot of holes to fill...no need to trade away extra picks and players for a guy we may only have for 2 years...

[Icebolt]

Yeah, this is what I suggested before. Just sign Sweat and add other FA's. I'm not in the trading draft picks group. If Garrett was younger than yeah, I would be all over it but he's not.

Horwitz made a comment about being smart with our assets which, to me, translate to " we are not giving up the farm for one player".
Unless you are one player away from winning it all ( which they are not ).

[21&500]

https://www.si.com/nfl/chargers/char...ern%20Michigan.

Welcome coach Adam Fuller.
Put your hands up if you immediately started looking at Florida St. prospects.
maybe ASJ is salvageable.

[Boltinloudguy]

Garrett just turned 29 at the end of December

And if the deal Popper laid out was truly an option - a 1st and a 3rd -- I would think long and hard. Traded a second for Mack - wouldn't a younger Myles Garrett be worth a 1st. Chargers traded for Mack when he was 31 in March of 2022. Hortiz could work around the third round pick I think. I don't even count Bosa but if they wanted him - more power. Also, the Chargers would have to sign him to a new contract - four year deal at least. I mean, the guy is difference maker at Edge - so for a 1/3 - I could think about it

What is not on my table:

Slater is a non-starter
Multiple FRPs is a non starter
And not extending him - has to get a new deal

To get Garrett, the starting point will be two 1st round picks and no less. I think it’s going to take two 1st a 2nd and even a 3rd. Maybe take a pick away and add Tuli. If he was 27 or even 28, I’d do it. I don’t think in their 2nd year, Hortiz or Harbaugh are willing to give away that many picks IMO.

[Icebolt]

I get it, were are bored and it's the middle of nowhere ( football speak ). So I get all the talk about Garret and other FA. But Horwitz will build through the draft. TT would go after Garrett but no JH3.
Lets talk about more real stuff. Top 2 TE will probably be gone by #22. However there are Othe options out there. Some TE are more receiving types, some more blocking type and the ones that are both are not so highly rated. WHICH way would you guys go.