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  • Chargers8491
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    #23605
    Originally posted by Boltnut View Post
    I agree with woodeye... get some mid-round IOL's.
    I suggest Connor McGovern (3rd round) and David Edwards (5th round).
    Batman and Robin... the dynamic duo. Fix the damn IOL with guys that are proven.
    We have the cap space... and the need.
    Finish it off with the best OG available in the 3rd round.
    It could be a bonifide OG... it could be an OT-->OG... it could be an OC-->OG. 3rd round is the sweet spot in this year's draft.
    Just FYI, McGovern is going to be in the neighborhood of 16m/yr and Edwards is going to be 19m/yr. Conversely, Fortner is around 6m/yr and Seumalo around 9m/yr. Just some food for thought.
    1) Cut Becton, Boz(ret), Dissly, DD, Fisk, and Dupree
    2) Re-sign Tart, Hand (4m), Phillips (5m)
    3) Sign the ERFA's Williams, Patterson, and Vidal (3m).
    4) Sign free agents Cole Strange (OG-1.5 m), Whyatt Teller (OG-10m), Luke Fortner (OC-6.5m), Brunskill (OC-vet min) Leo Chenal (LB-5m), Rashid Shaheed (WR- 14m), Cade Otten (TE-8m) Greg Dulcich (TE-3m), K'Lavon Chaisson (ED 9m), Myers (DT-7.8m), Alec Ingold (FB-6m), Hendrickson (ED-25m), Seumalo (OG-9m), AVT (OG). Jenkins (OG- 12m)

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    • beachcomber
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      #23606
      Originally posted by Chargers8491 View Post

      Just FYI, McGovern is going to be in the neighborhood of 16m/yr and Edwards is going to be 19m/yr. Conversely, Fortner is around 6m/yr and Seumalo around 9m/yr. Just some food for thought.
      is Fortner + Seumalo the better get than the any of Zion, Ingram or McGovern individually ??

      ps. think the both of Edwards 'n Linderbaum will be $20m each....
      LB CJ Allen, LT Caleb Lomu, OC Parker Brailsford, RB Demond Claiborne, TE Justin Joly, NT Dontay Corleone,​​ OC Bryce Foster, CB Josh Moten, LB Eric Gentry

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      • electricgold
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        #23607
        Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

        It could easily be Vega in round one.

        My point is that we would surely be passing up gamechanging skill players.

        How much more impactful is Vega than, Keylan Rutledge ??

        The size is identical.
        Vega OLG.
        Rutledge ORG.
        I would say Vega is surprisingly good, no doubt better, in pass pro.
        They both can excel in various schemes.
        They both are certified people movers.

        Food for thought.
        It's early.
        You're saying if Vega, Proctor or Pregnon were to be on the board where we pick in the first, you'd rather go with someone like TE Kenyon Sadiq, WR KC Concepcion, or WR Denzel Boston, because that is about the level of round one skill player talent that will probably be there when we pick?

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        • Chargers8491
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          #23608
          Originally posted by beachcomber View Post

          is Fortner + Seumalo the better get than the any of Zion, Ingram or McGovern individually ??

          ps. think the both of Edwards 'n Linderbaum will be $20m each....
          FYI, I got those #'s from Spotrac so take it for it's worth. They have Ingram at 12.9m/yr. They don't have anything for Zion.

          IMHO, my early thought, I don't think they are going to sign a free agent OG. They have a big man in Cleveland and they have Penning. I'm hoping Cleveland got his personal life in order so he can concentrate on football. I think they will draft an OG and let them battle it out in TC.

          Fortner was a back up but played all year because of an injury to the starter. His PFF grade was average among centers but his pass blocking was in the top 10. His run blocking was good as well. Seumalo has been steady for the Steelers. He is on the other side of 30 which is why he won't cost as much.

          If you are going after 1 premium player I would probably go after Linderbaum or McGovern. I guess it comes down to how many players you want to add. You could sign Linderbaum, Zion, Phillips, Oweh, and other core players from this year. Oweh will probably be somewhere between 8-12m/yr and Phillips will be around 15m/yr.
          1) Cut Becton, Boz(ret), Dissly, DD, Fisk, and Dupree
          2) Re-sign Tart, Hand (4m), Phillips (5m)
          3) Sign the ERFA's Williams, Patterson, and Vidal (3m).
          4) Sign free agents Cole Strange (OG-1.5 m), Whyatt Teller (OG-10m), Luke Fortner (OC-6.5m), Brunskill (OC-vet min) Leo Chenal (LB-5m), Rashid Shaheed (WR- 14m), Cade Otten (TE-8m) Greg Dulcich (TE-3m), K'Lavon Chaisson (ED 9m), Myers (DT-7.8m), Alec Ingold (FB-6m), Hendrickson (ED-25m), Seumalo (OG-9m), AVT (OG). Jenkins (OG- 12m)

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          • dmac_bolt
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            #23609
            Originally posted by Chargers8491 View Post

            I agree with this mostly. Where I disagree is, OGs are becoming more expensive. The OGs last year got stupid amounts of money, and they weren't even that good. I would say OGs are becoming 1st rnd worthy if you're basing it off cap. I would rather they take the best OG in the draft instead of reaching for an edge because that edge could be a best and at the end may cost less to re-sign than the OG.
            Trey Smith, the #1 OG in FA, got about $23M/year. $20M gets you a Top-3 OG. It that a lot more than it used to be.

            Now lets do Edge:
            Parsons $46m, TWatts $41m, Hutchinson $45m, Garrett $40m, Crosby $35m, … its relative. Really good edge players cost almost twice as much as really good guards and centers. Folks are fine paying Mack $18m for a 6 sack season, or Oweh $15M for an 8 sack season, but are horrified to pay Linderbaum $20m.

            I still don’t get it. Draft Edge Rd1 and they can afford to sign a TOP IOL player. Maybe not the most expensive and absolute best like Linderbaum, but they can land really good proven veteran starters.
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            • electricgold
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              #23610
              Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

              Trey Smith, the #1 OG in FA, got about $23M/year. $20M gets you a Top-3 OG. It that a lot more than it used to be.

              Now lets do Edge:
              Parsons $46m, TWatts $41m, Hutchinson $45m, Garrett $40m, Crosby $35m, … its relative. Really good edge players cost almost twice as much as really good guards and centers. Folks are fine paying Mack $18m for a 6 sack season, or Oweh $15M for an 8 sack season, but are horrified to pay Linderbaum $20m.

              I still don’t get it. Draft Edge Rd1 and they can afford to sign a TOP IOL player. Maybe not the most expensive and absolute best like Linderbaum, but they can land really good proven veteran starters.
              The thing about TOP edge players is even with stellar play they have little impact on having a winning season. Look at the top Edge players and look at where their teams are at in the standings. I would rather have kick ass DT's and serviceable solid edge players that can contain the outside. And draft at the top of the draft or spend all the money on a great OC and OG! especially in free agency.

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              • Chargers8491
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                #23611
                Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                Trey Smith, the #1 OG in FA, got about $23M/year. $20M gets you a Top-3 OG. It that a lot more than it used to be.

                Now lets do Edge:
                Parsons $46m, TWatts $41m, Hutchinson $45m, Garrett $40m, Crosby $35m, … its relative. Really good edge players cost almost twice as much as really good guards and centers. Folks are fine paying Mack $18m for a 6 sack season, or Oweh $15M for an 8 sack season, but are horrified to pay Linderbaum $20m.

                I still don’t get it. Draft Edge Rd1 and they can afford to sign a TOP IOL player. Maybe not the most expensive and absolute best like Linderbaum, but they can land really good proven veteran starters.
                I totally get and agree with what you are saying. My main point is I'm not reaching on an Edge if Vega is sitting there is all.

                1) Cut Becton, Boz(ret), Dissly, DD, Fisk, and Dupree
                2) Re-sign Tart, Hand (4m), Phillips (5m)
                3) Sign the ERFA's Williams, Patterson, and Vidal (3m).
                4) Sign free agents Cole Strange (OG-1.5 m), Whyatt Teller (OG-10m), Luke Fortner (OC-6.5m), Brunskill (OC-vet min) Leo Chenal (LB-5m), Rashid Shaheed (WR- 14m), Cade Otten (TE-8m) Greg Dulcich (TE-3m), K'Lavon Chaisson (ED 9m), Myers (DT-7.8m), Alec Ingold (FB-6m), Hendrickson (ED-25m), Seumalo (OG-9m), AVT (OG). Jenkins (OG- 12m)

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                • wu-dai clan
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                  #23612
                  Originally posted by electricgold View Post

                  You're saying if Vega, Proctor or Pregnon were to be on the board where we pick in the first, you'd rather go with someone like TE Kenyon Sadiq, WR KC Concepcion, or WR Denzel Boston, because that is about the level of round one skill player talent that will probably be there when we pick?
                  Yes. We must face our OL issues. 20-20 hindsight leads to WTH did we not draft Creed Humphrey ? I get it.

                  Talent level matters greatly with regard to wins and losses. EDGE. Weapons. And OL.

                  I mentioned Keylan Rutledge. I invite all to deep dive on him vs Vega. Last year's midround Georgia Bulldog IOL's are fairing solidly early in their NFL career.

                  BPA vs PON.
                  It's as old as the forward pass.
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                  • electricgold
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                    #23613
                    You make a great point! We have the kind of culture now to take a guy like Keylan Rutledge in the 4th round and turn him into a diamond.

                    The problem is we may need a better oline coach! Also Don't think we could afford to not draft a OG or another OT past the 5th round. Hortiz has gone two drafts and never drafted a high rated OG, and we need another swing OT like Proctor who could play both OG or OT in a pinch.

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                    • CanadianBoltFan
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                      #23614
                      Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

                      It could easily be Vega in round one.

                      My point is that we would surely be passing up gamechanging skill players.

                      How much more impactful is Vega than, Keylan Rutledge ??

                      The size is identical.
                      Vega OLG.
                      Rutledge ORG.
                      I would say Vega is surprisingly good, no doubt better, in pass pro.
                      They both can excel in various schemes.
                      They both are certified people movers.

                      Food for thought.
                      It's early.
                      Lets get the STUD! We have seen enough sub par line play!!

                      In fact I have seen so much it has turned me from a FF player who loves weapons into a Trencher! I want Vega in the first!

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                      • CanadianBoltFan
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                        #23615
                        Originally posted by Chargers8491 View Post

                        I totally get and agree with what you are saying. My main point is I'm not reaching on an Edge if Vega is sitting there is all.
                        I think there is a good chance Vega is there at 22 or where we pick

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                        • wu-dai clan
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                          #23616
                          Originally posted by electricgold View Post
                          You make a great point! We have the kind of culture now to take a guy like Keylan Rutledge in the 4th round and turn him into a diamond.

                          The problem is we may need a better oline coach! Also Don't think we could afford to not draft a OG or another OT past the 5th round. Hortiz has gone two drafts and never drafted a high rated OG, and we need another swing OT like Proctor who could play both OG or OT in a pinch.
                          Jeremiah is talking like Zion will be "prohibitively expensive" (my new fav trencher term !).

                          Friends, we know Harbs. We know it's dollars and sense...trying to prep for the worst.

                          And sign me up for Frank S. too, e-gold.
                          HowellER KlareTE FarmerOG M'baDT TollisonC 4.3.26

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