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  • Boltjolt
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    #8605
    Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post

    Zeitler finished the season injured. He’s 34.
    Daniel’s tore his Achilles and finished the season injured.

    These two players make no sense to me. Unless you are looking for more of the same from both.
    Yes but Daniels is only 27. Dobbins tore an ACL an Achilles and we want him back. Slater also missed most of a season with a peck year. Shit happens. Zeitler I get it, he is 34 but don't know what his injury was. If it was a sprained ankle, no big deal.

    Daniels, Jenkins and Becton or somebody that's a cap casualty is likely what we looking for but doubt we trading for any of the cap casualty guys unless it's for a late pick.

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    • dmac_bolt
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      #8606
      Originally posted by Boltnut View Post

      Zeitler played 1047 snaps to Becton's 903 snaps. Zeitler had a pff score of 86.8 vs 75.2 for Becton. More concerning is Becton's 63.6 pass blocking grade... that's Zion Johnson territory (exact same 63.6 pass blocking grade).

      Will Fries had 268 snaps this year... and Jonah Jackson had 266 snaps...

      I'm not buying the "FA OG/OC market is weak" narrative. Zeitler is a fit @RG for Roman's offense. James Daniels (albeit coming off an achilles tear) is versatile (college OC) player that can play center or LG. These 2 players just make sense... and we can compete with the FA money we have available to us. Plug these holes temporarily and wait for better IOL draft prospects next draft.
      Have you or anyone ever seen Bectons game log scores? I have heard but never seen that he started out struggling but got better and better as the year went on as he adjusted to OG. He stoned the Chiefs cold in the SB, i saw that much.

      Jack Burton - right? Bose the World class leader … lolololol!!!
      Justin Herbert 2026 MVP Watch

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      • Boltinloudguy
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        #8607
        Originally posted by Ghost of Quacksaw View Post

        Honestly, I cannot imagine Bozeman being on the roster this season. Just Say No!

        It doesn't matter if he's a World Class Leader if he can't play worth <excrement>. IMO, doing better at Center than what Bozeman provided last year is essential to the Bolts making the next step up in the NFL Food Chain.

        And there's no legit justification for exposing Herb to the same degree of Pocket Assault he's experienced thus far in his career. Herb can't DO better unless he HAS better.

        Free Agency can't and won't solve the entire problem. On Days 1 & 2 of the draft, O-line really has to be a priority*, unless the talent differential between the BPA and the best O-lineman available is just too significant.

        *I'll broaden the parameters by saying that the right RB or TE or WR would also make Herb's life safer, especially the first two. So Joe Hortiz' mission of preserving Herb can also be served by selecting a talented, system-fit TE who just so happens to be more highly rated than any remaining O-lineman.

        But I'm predicting that TWO of the Bolts first three picks will be invested in offensive players, because... why squander Herb's career?!?.
        I agree with the broadening aspect of it. I say Bozeman because of the way they talk about him. If they can upgrade both Gs, the Oline will technically be better. I have no doubt they will upgrade TE, RB and WR this offseason as well. Like you said, those will all help protect Herbert.

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        • Charge!
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          #8608
          Originally posted by Ghost of Quacksaw View Post

          Honestly, I cannot imagine Bozeman being on the roster this season. Just Say No!

          It doesn't matter if he's a World Class Leader if he can't play worth <excrement>. IMO, doing better at Center than what Bozeman provided last year is essential to the Bolts making the next step up in the NFL Food Chain.

          And there's no legit justification for exposing Herb to the same degree of Pocket Assault he's experienced thus far in his career. Herb can't DO better unless he HAS better.

          Free Agency can't and won't solve the entire problem. On Days 1 & 2 of the draft, O-line really has to be a priority*, unless the talent differential between the BPA and the best O-lineman available is just too significant.

          *I'll broaden the parameters by saying that the right RB or TE or WR would also make Herb's life safer, especially the first two. So Joe Hortiz' mission of preserving Herb can also be served by selecting a talented, system-fit TE who just so happens to be more highly rated than any remaining O-lineman.

          But I'm predicting that TWO of the Bolts first three picks will be invested in offensive players, because... why squander Herb's career?!?.
          first round needs to go to the offense.... our defense is good but this offense with a top 5 QB cannot score points!???...

          We need major upgrades on offense.... OL and WR fixes in FA ....a real difference making TE in the first.... then a great DL/pass rusher in 2nd, then a starting level RB in the 3rd and likely another on day 3....

          and agree that we have to upgrade the OL, WR, TE, and RB to get our offense to an elite level like our defense already is......

          Our DC can make a great defense out of average players.... like the KC DC does.... but we will also sdd more young talent to the defense

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          • Jack Burton
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            #8609
            Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

            Yes but Daniels is only 27. Dobbins tore an ACL an Achilles and we want him back. Slater also missed most of a season with a peck year. Shit happens. Zeitler I get it, he is 34 but don't know what his injury was. If it was a sprained ankle, no big deal.

            Daniels, Jenkins and Becton or somebody that's a cap casualty is likely what we looking for but doubt we trading for any of the cap casualty guys unless it's for a late pick.
            I guess Daniels could be an option…..Thats a big if, man…
            I say either Becton or Daniels and then they will have to trade up to the top of the 2nd again and steal one of these G’s cause they aren’t gonna last. Then stick Bozeman between them for one more year.
            That’s the best I think they can do. It sucks cause the chargers managed to hit the deepest DT EDGE draft and they need interior O line and it’s the weakest position in the draft.

            FA C Ryan Kelly is mulling retirement…

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            • Jack Burton
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              #8610
              Originally posted by Boltinloudguy View Post

              I agree with the broadening aspect of it. I say Bozeman because of the way they talk about him. If they can upgrade both Gs, the Oline will technically be better. I have no doubt they will upgrade TE, RB and WR this offseason as well. Like you said, those will all help protect Herbert.
              I agree. Ideally, I don’t think anyone likes the idea of leaving Bozeman as the weak link but the way the circumstances are playing out, it’s the best case scenario. Attack what you can attack and fix it. In this case, it’s both Guard position’s and hopefully Bozeman gets better cause both guys next to him are much better.

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              • Charge!
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                #8611
                Originally posted by Boltinloudguy View Post

                I agree with the broadening aspect of it. I say Bozeman because of the way they talk about him. If they can upgrade both Gs, the Oline will technically be better. I have no doubt they will upgrade TE, RB and WR this offseason as well. Like you said, those will all help protect Herbert.
                agree!

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                • wu-dai clan
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                  #8612
                  Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post

                  I agree. Ideally, I don’t think anyone likes the idea of leaving Bozeman as the weak link but the way the circumstances are playing out, it’s the best case scenario. Attack what you can attack and fix it. In this case, it’s both Guard position’s and hopefully Bozeman gets better cause both guys next to him are much better.
                  Solid.

                  However, Gray Zabel is quite scheme flexible IMHO.

                  His reported failures during the Senior Bowl game were caused by being moved around playing different positions.

                  This prospect was flawless during the week.

                  GZ can be seen in pundit mocks taken by teams ahead of the Chargers in round 1, teams that are not pure outside zone.

                  This may be our Center, at #22.

                  TBD.
                  HowellER KlareTE FarmerOG M'baDT TollisonC 4.3.26

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                  • Boltnut
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                    #8613
                    Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post

                    Zeitler finished the season injured. He’s 34.
                    Daniel’s tore his Achilles and finished the season injured.

                    These two players make no sense to me. Unless you are looking for more of the same from both.
                    Kevin Zeitler has missed 4 games over the last 10 years. He was a Pro Bowler in 2023. He earned an 86.8 pff grade in 2024.
                    Will Dissly tore his achilles in 2019. JK Dobbins tore his achilles in 2023. James Daniels is 27 years old and has played all 3 IOL positions.
                    Last edited by Boltnut; 02-27-2025, 06:45 PM.
                    Protect the QB
                    Run the ball
                    Play great defense

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                    • Charge!
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                      #8614
                      Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

                      Solid.

                      However, Gray Zabel is quite scheme flexible IMHO.

                      His reported failures during the Senior Bowl game were caused by being moved around playing different positions.

                      This prospect was flawless during the week.

                      GZ can be seen in pundit mocks taken by teams ahead of the Chargers in round 1, teams that are not pure outside zone.

                      This may be our Center, at #22.

                      TBD.
                      that would be scary.... dont take OG's or C's in first... take great TE's.... Pass rushers....CB's..... RB's and WR's are available every round... Walsh once said WR's are a dime a dozen.... meaning system and QB make them or break them....Brady won many SB's without great WR';s but he had a great TE!.... mahomes has a great TE....Stabler, montana, .etc had great TE's....

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                      • Jack Burton
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                        #8615
                        Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

                        Solid.

                        However, Gray Zabel is quite scheme flexible IMHO.

                        His reported failures during the Senior Bowl game were caused by being moved around playing different positions.

                        This prospect was flawless during the week.

                        GZ can be seen in pundit mocks taken by teams ahead of the Chargers in round 1, teams that are not pure outside zone.

                        This may be our Center, at #22.

                        TBD.
                        Zabel isn’t a fit for the chargers. He fits a zone blocking scheme.
                        Id love to have Dalman but he fits that scheme too.

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                        • Charge!
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                          #8616
                          the thing to remember is a great TE gets open quicker than any other player....a huge missmatch for defenses..... always giving a top QB an instant outlet when under pressure, blitzes etc.... a great TE gets foirst downs.... beats blitzes.... and keeps your QB healthy!!!

                          Loveland will be much better in NFL than he was in college.... teams are going to trade up for him...he is that good....a differnce maker!

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