Initial 53 | Cuts and Practice Squad Buildout

[jamrock]

OK. I still think Hortiz is going to bring in an additional TE before the end of the week. Again, with just Dissly and always hurt Hurst and an undrafted under-weight college WR as depth, that area of the roster is lacking, especially for a team that wants to build a successful running game.

Am I wrong to think this? And, who do you think are the best candidates to join the Chargers at TE?

Bonus question. If they do bring in veteran TE help, will they cut Smartt and go with 3 TE or will they roster 4 TE and cut one of the WRs? (or IR Chark?)

I'd like Isaiah Likely

[Lone Bolt]

You need to post the whole picture with Heineke not just cherry pick last year. He also went 12-11 with Washington and got them into the playoffs. 84 QB rating for his career.

One huge difference is that Heineke can compete in big games and give you a chance to win. Stick cant. Heineke is a gamer, he will attack and take shots down field. He plays with an edge. Stick looks like a deer in the headlights out there. He does not play with confidence

Stick has never won an NFL regular game. Heineke has won 13.

I bring facts, you bring supposition, like big shots, big throws, big games...the numbers may not tell the whole story, but they dont lie. At best, you just traded a D QB2 for D+ QB2...which is fine...I just dont get the excitement...hell, reading you guys, I got excited...so I looked him up to see what he has done lately...uh...not much.

[Velo]

I'd like Isaiah Likely

I'd love it, but I don't think it's likely Hortiz could pry him loose from the Ravens. He's their #2 TE behind Mark Andrews, who spent most of last season on IR.

[Fouts2herbert]

OK. I still think Hortiz is going to bring in an additional TE before the end of the week. Again, with just Dissly and always hurt Hurst and an undrafted under-weight college WR as depth, that area of the roster is lacking, especially for a team that wants to build a successful running game.

Am I wrong to think this? And, who do you think are the best candidates to join the Chargers at TE?

Bonus question. If they do bring in veteran TE help, will they cut Smartt and go with 3 TE or will they roster 4 TE and cut one of the WRs? (or IR Chark?)

I'm thinking that they need 4 TEs, Hurst has had injury concerns his whole career...

[Lone Bolt]

LB is just trolling now, he knows Taylor is on a different level...he's too smart not to...

No!! I aint too smart to...not...know...wait...

Shit...I see what you did there...

[Boltjolt]

Heinicke is about what you expect for a backup QB though. Heinicke has more experience, more wins and a higher QB rating than Billy Volek did when Volek became Rivers' backup. Volek is regarded by many Chargers fans as the franchise's best backup this century.

You know, Vokek was just ok. He just had the one good drive in the playoffs. He only had 44 pass atts with us for 56.8% . 1 TD and 2 INTs.

I get it, fans take one thing and he played so little that's all they remember but really, he was average with us.

That playoff game was 2007 and a great win.

During that season he was 3 for 10 and a INT. But he was 3 for 4 and led a drive that mattered.
But best backup ever? Rivers was a backup for 2 seasons. Brees was a backup. Flutie was a backup as was Harbaugh for Leaf.

[Fouts2herbert]

I bring facts, you bring supposition, like big shots, big throws, big games...the numbers may not tell the whole story, but they dont lie. At best, you just traded a D QB2 for D+ QB2...which is fine...I just dont get the excitement...hell, reading you guys, I got excited...so I looked him up to see what he has done lately...uh...not much.

WOW, I guess you really like Easton, you still think that he's QB2 material...

[Charge!]

Look...Im glad you guys got your new QB2...if for no other reason, than you will all stop crying about it...

And I trust Jim n Joe...they felt a move was needed...

And every other move they made, and their overall approach has me grinning ear to ear...

BUT....why is everyone acting like Heineke is a master stroke, and QB depth savior?

Both him and Stick played 5 games last year.

Stick completion percentage was 63.8, Heineke 54.4
Stick was 3/1 TD/Int, Heineke 5/4
Stick rating was 85.6, Heineke was 74.7

Stick did take 14 sks to Heineke 8
Both averaged 6.5 yds/att

Both guys fair runners

Heineke had some OK years in Washington...but big issue taking care of the ball, even if he is the better arm talent.

Heineke didnt wow this preseason, either.

Where again is this huge upgrade? This is what everyone was clamoring for?

Well...I like 99 out of every 100 moves this new regime has made...thats good enough for me, lol

sorry but you have to open your eyes.... Stick has sucked every time he has played.... his passes are extremelyu inacccurate.... even the short ones!!!

stats can be deceiving..... the last game stick threw 2 passes directly to dallas defenders who dropped the passes.... and the rev=ceivers were wide open but Stick missed them BADLEY
Stick has zero field vision...zero instincts and melted down this pre season when he was told for the forast time that he was playing for his job..... the cloe ups of his face showe he cannot handle the stress of being a starting QB! .... so galds we finally added an NFL QB to be our backup... if you watch Hwineke's highlight video, Stick has NEVER ever made those kind of passes.....

[Charge!]

I'd like Isaiah Likely

he is pretty good

[Velo]

You know, Vokek wasn't that great. He just had the one good drive in the playoffs. He only had 44 pass atts with us for 56.8% . 1 TD and 2 INTs.

I get it, fans take one thing and he played so little that's all they remember but really, he was average with us.
That playoffs game was 2007. During the season he was 3 for 10 and a INT. But he was 3 for 4.amd.led a drive that mattered.
But best backup ever? Rivers was a backup for 2 seasons. Brees was a backup. Flutie was a backup as was Harbaugh for Leaf.

Fouts was a backup too, to Johnny U. I guess I should've clarified backup signed to be a backup not a starter. Though Flutie might have been the best. The thing about Volek though, he was Rivers' backup for five seasons. I'm hoping Heinicke can be that for Rivers. It's really beneficial to have a backup stay on the roster long term.

[wu-dai clan]

Could it be that GRo is going to predominantly run a slightly different offense than what we expect ?

All our RBs are decent in pass pro.

I am thinking eleven personnel.
1 RB.
1 TE.
3 WRs.
Elite bookend OTs.

A fully healed Herbert can occasionally be our 2nd RB on the field.

[Boltjolt]

I'd like Isaiah Likely

Lol, we aren't getting him though.

Uzumah, Tonyan, Logan. And our 2 PS guys and oh, McKitty is available .