Raiders @ Chargers (-3.5) Pregame Discussion (Week 1) ' Raiders Week'

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  • chargeroo
    Fan since 1961
    • Jan 2019
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    True story - some years ago a country singer/songwriter, named Bobby Bare came out with a version of God Bless America which he called God Bless America Again. The heirs of Irving Berlin had an attorney send him a cease and desist letter. Bobby told the attorney, 'You're gonna love my new one - "I'm dreaming of a White Christmas Again". Bobby said he never heard from them again.
    THE YEAR OF THE FLIP!

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    • jamrock
      lawyers, guns and money
      • Sep 2017
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      Originally posted by chargeroo View Post
      True story - some years ago a country singer/songwriter, named Bobby Bare came out with a version of God Bless America which he called God Bless America Again. The heirs of Irving Berlin had an attorney send him a cease and desist letter. Bobby told the attorney, 'You're gonna love my new one - "I'm dreaming of a White Christmas Again". Bobby said he never heard from them again.
      Bobby Bare is a legend. What he knew (or someone told him) is that titles can't be copyrighted. His song doesn't have any elements of the Irving Berlin song. Just the title so no problem

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      • captaind
        WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR!
        • Jun 2013
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        Originally posted by Topcat View Post

        "When a problem comes along (you must wrap it)
        Before the hand pain comes along (you must wrap it)
        When something's going wrong (you must wrap it)

        Now wrap it - into shape
        Wrap it up - get straight
        Go forward - move ahead
        Try to detect it - it's not too late
        To wrap it - into shape
        Wrap it up - get straight
        Go forward - move ahead
        Try to detect it - it's not too late
        To wrap it well - wrap it good"
        Needs more cowbell.
        Offseason signature space for rent. Inquire within.

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        • Boltx
          Gates in the HOF
          • Jun 2013
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          Originally posted by Velo View Post
          Let us not forget that Will Dissly does more than block. He's primarily a blocker, but that is not all he does. He did have 1421 yds receiving with Seattle and scored 13 TDs. He's a sneaky mofo, he'll make a play when the defense is least expecting it. He just turned 28 this summer.


          New TE Will Dissly Highlights | LA Chargers
          Pretty shifty for a big dude!
          ESPN Screename: GoBolts02

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          • ChargingBolts
            Adopted Bolt: Khalil Mack
            • Sep 2018
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            I'm very nervous about our offense. Thinking we can lose to the below average Raiders 3-0

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            • 21&500
              Bolt Spit-Baller
              • Sep 2018
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              Originally posted by Boltx View Post

              Pretty shifty for a big dude!
              Yes and what gives me hope is Justin's ball placement.
              Justin will get him the ball better than any qb before him, it's up to Dissly to catch fastballs.
              I'm assuming Dissly has the mitts for it at least.
              Bolt-UP
              https://youtube.com/shorts/bTeeVJWuJ...rgGOQwgVbRTQzG
              https://youtube.com/shorts/9mhgmbQaK...9JQ4bsX7twbfyw

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              • Critty
                Dominate the Day.
                • Mar 2019
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                Chargers cover the 3.5 spread by double or more.
                ​​​​​
                Who has it better than us?

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                • sonorajim
                  Registered Charger Fan
                  • Jan 2019
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                  Originally posted by Critty View Post
                  Chargers cover the 3.5 spread by double or more.
                  ​​​​
                  Agreed. I believe Harbaugh will control the game with O, D and Special Teams.
                  2021-'23 we had no 3rd qtr offense and inconsistent 2nd half D.
                  He puts a firm NO! to that crap. Not his Chargers.

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                  • Velo
                    Ride!
                    • Aug 2019
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                    Originally posted by ChargingBolts View Post
                    I'm very nervous about our offense. Thinking we can lose to the below average Raiders 3-0
                    When has Justin Herbert ever been shut out?

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                    • Boltjolt
                      Dont let the PBs fool ya
                      • Jun 2013
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                      Originally posted by Velo View Post

                      When has Justin Herbert ever been shut out?
                      Came close. No TDs in a 6-0 win against New England last year. If Mac Jones wasnt so bad and they score just once against Staleys defense, we lose.

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                      • Pat_Swindle
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                        • Apr 2022
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                        Originally posted by Velo View Post

                        When has Justin Herbert ever been shut out?
                        A rookie Herbert was shut out against the Patriots with Cam Newton in 2020. Probably Herbert 's worst game he played as a pro. The final score was 0-45.

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                        • dmac_bolt
                          JH3 and Me
                          • May 2019
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                          Originally posted by Topcat View Post

                          Okay, looks like you're right on Weird Al...but Saturday Night Live and other groups/artists get away with a lot of parody without permission:

                          "Some of our entertainment is allowed, because artists are allowed to show humor through parody. Skits on Saturday Night Live have defended against copyright infringement allegations based on fair use of copyrighted works.

                          However each case is different. Singer Weird Al Yankovic often obtains permission from artists before doing a parody of their song. Before using a copyrighted work, looking at how a court may determine fair use can be helpful, but often it’s best just to get permission first."


                          https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/t...-is-acceptable
                          You’re right that all parody adaptations do not require by law compensation to the original creator. Weird Al did it out of respect and to ensure continued support.

                          Hip hop borrowing of riffs is more prevalent than parody. Courts have generally ruled that rhythm chord progressions and beats are usually not copyrightable, hence sampling became ubiquitous. And for good reason, there are a finite number of progressions, almost any song can be found similar to a prior song if this theory was stretched. It would stifle artistic creation and inundate courts. Led Zep notoriously borrowed riffs and progressions, go find Spirit’s instrumental track “Taurus” and compare it to Stairway to Heaven, which they went thru multiple court cases and Zep won on. I agree with the ruling - it’s enough different that it’s unique imo. Some considered them thieves, I found them to be brilliant at taking obscure bits of ideas and turning them into international platinum hits. I understand both sides, to each his own.

                          lyrics and lyric melody, conversely, usually are protected. Parody is on a fine line when copying melody lines with different lyrics. Weird Al avoided question, and showed respect, by just getting the rights.

                          your parody lyrics, sitting on paper, are not an infringement - so rules Judge Dmac. But this court requires cogent valid legal arguments. The court accepts your revised and extended remarks now, good counselor, with your retraction from the record of your initial flawed legal position.

                          love ya, bruh!
                          “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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